Tiger begins his 2008 Grand Slam March...

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Rasputin_Vol

Rasputin_Vol

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Well, that didn't take long. Coming out the gates and trying to run and hide with the lead at Torrey Pines.

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the guy is the most dominant athlete, in a near undominateable sport, that I can think of.

I still bet the don't on the Grand Slam
 
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BigPapaVol said:
the guy is the most dominant athlete, in a near undominateable sport, that I can think of.

I still bet the don't on the Grand Slam
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Don't forget Federer....

I think what is driving Tiger right now is his determination to beat Jack's record...after it happens, i think we'll see the Tiger era begin to decline.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
Don't forget Federer....

I think what is driving Tiger right now is his determination to beat Jack's record...after it happens, i think we'll see the Tiger era begin to decline.
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but tennis is much more easily dominated IMO. Golf, given the "rub of the green" is just harder to handle. He's done something that nobody would have ever believed prior to his arrival.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
but tennis is much more easily dominated IMO. Golf, given the "rub of the green" is just harder to handle. He's done something that nobody would have ever believed prior to his arrival.
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Both sports are equally difficult to dominate, in fact, I think tennis is more difficult. Tiger is competing against guys that are probably well past their prime...i.e Vijay and Phil...and these 40+ year olds are in the top 5. No offense to Vijay and Phil but the fact of the matter is that they can only put up a good showing in a few tournaments due to their age.

In Tennis, you're competing against 18-30 year olds that can match the same athleticism and intensity as you.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
Both sports are equally difficult to dominate, in fact, I think tennis is more difficult. Tiger is competing against guys that are probably well past their prime...i.e Vijay and Phil...and these 40+ year olds are in the top 5. No offense to Vijay and Phil but the fact of the matter is that they can only put up a good showing in a few tournaments due to their age.

In Tennis, you're competing against 18-30 year olds that can match the same athleticism and intensity as you.
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that's odd, there have been far more dominant tennis players than there have golfers. Great golfers can win some slams over time and maybe a couple in a season, but nobody has consistently been as stout as Tiger.

The variety in ages is one of the reasons I think it's more difficult. Players can remain in their prime for a couple of decades. The span in tennis is a few years and the greats move on for someone else to take over.
It's an opinion, but there have been several tennis players, male and female to march to the majority of the Slam finals for years at a time.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
that's odd, there have been far more dominant tennis players than there have golfers. Great golfers can win some slams over time and maybe a couple in a season, but nobody has consistently been as stout as Tiger.

The variety in ages is one of the reasons I think it's more difficult. Players can remain in their prime for a couple of decades. The span in tennis is a few years and the greats move on for someone else to take over.
It's an opinion, but there have been several tennis players, male and female to march to the majority of the Slam finals for years at a time.
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Why is the span for tennis players only a few years? because it takes such a great amount of athleticism and stamina to play the sport. For the most part, each tennis player matches his competitor regarding strength and stamina while only a handful of golfers can compete with Tiger in terms of athleticism, strength, and stamina. Unlike a lot of other people, I truly believe golf not only tests one's mental ability but also his physical ability, and in this regard, Tiger already has a large head start before a tournament even begins whereas in tennis, you can rarely say that one player has such a huge athletic advantage over another.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
Why is the span for tennis players only a few years? because it takes such a great amount of athleticism and stamina to play the sport. For the most part, each tennis player matches his competitor regarding strength and stamina while only a handful of golfers can compete with Tiger in terms of athleticism, strength, and stamina. Unlike a lot of other people, I truly believe golf not only tests one's mental ability but also his physical ability, and in this regard, Tiger already has a large head start before a tournament even begins whereas in tennis, you can rarely say that one player has such a huge athletic advantage over another.
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do the reasons for dominance matter? I'm saying that dominance in golf has never happened before like what we're witnessing today.

In tennis, I suspect Laver was every bit as dominant has Federer.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
do the reasons for dominance matter? I'm saying that dominance in golf has never happened before like what we're witnessing today.

In tennis, I suspect Laver was every bit as dominant has Federer.
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What about the great Jack Nicklaus?
 
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Sudeepvol said:
110+ wins and 18 majors isn't even closeto what tiger is doing??
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not in my opinion.
Tiger has to beat consistently much better fields on a weekly basis.

Nicklaus was nowhere near as consistent and he didn't have 110 PGA wins. Snead is tops with 85 or so.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
not in my opinion.

Nicklaus was nowhere near as consistent and he didn't have 110 PGA wins. Snead is tops with 85 or so.
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well i included all his wins...obviously jack and tiger are the two greatest golfers of all time, but as of right now, it's hard to separate them in terms of greatness.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
well i included all his wins...obviously jack and tiger are the two greatest golfers of all time, but as of right now, it's hard to separate them in terms of greatness.
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they are the greatest but others dominated like Nicklaus, just not as long. Nobody has consistently been hovering on top of the leaderboard like Tiger.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
they are the greatest but others dominated like Nicklaus, just not as long. Nobody has consistently been hovering on top of the leaderboard like Tiger.
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After Tiger got married his dominance dipped. I believe it remains to be seen if he will regain his total strangle hold he had on PGA golf pre nuptials or if he will settle into "winning enough to pay all the extravagent bills"..
 
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Sudeepvol said:
Both sports are equally difficult to dominate, in fact, I think tennis is more difficult. Tiger is competing against guys that are probably well past their prime...i.e Vijay and Phil...and these 40+ year olds are in the top 5. No offense to Vijay and Phil but the fact of the matter is that they can only put up a good showing in a few tournaments due to their age.

In Tennis, you're competing against 18-30 year olds that can match the same athleticism and intensity as you.
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Mickelson has been in his prime the last 10 years. He's only in his late 30's...
 
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hmanvolfan said:
After Tiger got married his dominance dipped. I believe it remains to be seen if he will regain his total strangle hold he had on PGA golf pre nuptials or if he will settle into "winning enough to pay all the extravagent bills"..
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I think his slump may have been more to do with his dad. When his dad was sick, it was really bad, and when he died, it was worse for a while, but then Tiger took off.
 
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GAVol said:
Check the record. I think he's probably got 20+ wins and at least 4 or 5 majors since he got married 3 years ago. That doesn't qualify as a dip.
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Yeah, winning 7 of 16 PGA events (and 3 second place finishes) isn't exactly a slump.A slump for Tiger is usually going 8-10 events without a victory. Any other golfer would kill to be able to win 1 out of 10 times. At one time, Tiger's lifetime winning percentage in PGA events was at 25%.
 
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Some telling quotes from this weekend

"My goal going into today was to finish second," Imada said. "That's almost like winning the golf tournament to me."
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"Nobody thought too much about winning," Mickelson said.
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"What he's going to do is screw the U.S. Open up for everyone else," Fred Couples said.
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Freddie's was just funny
 
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But freddy was right. The usga is now going to make the south course into a video game course to try and keep tiger from a repeat performance....and yes, I know that he played one day on the easier north. The fact of the matter is that the usga has made it known that they want scores to be high at the us open, that is going to make it increasingly difficult for other players to win.
 
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"Nobody thought too much about winning," Mickelson said.
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This statement came from the world's number 2 golfer. That alone speaks volumes of how BA Tiger is.
 
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I for one don't really enjoy watching the USGA try to embarrass the best players in the world. It's a joke.
 
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