Tim Simon

#9
#9
My mistake, rivals has him at 4.5. If, he is a legitimate 4.5. He could play any LB position. Especially if, he has a quick burst of speed. In the Tampa 2, the MLB will have to be fast. He will be dropping to cover receivers at times.
 
#12
#12
volsgrad89 said:
Doesn't have the speed to play middle linebacker. Unless, his 40 time is while wearing pads. However, he could possibly play outside.
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What? 4.6 is fine for a MLB. He would need to be faster to play on the outside, not the other way around.
 
#13
#13
He is already committed to Ole Miss. Where has anyone see that he is wavering? Thats kind of like Je'Ron Stokes "wavering" because he is taking his visits. Don't get your hopes up to high for this guy. I think he will prolly stay committed
 
#14
#14
I started a Tim Simon thread months ago when UT was his leader. I have 5 fraternity brothers from Cordova, AL who know him personally. The only reason he had UT so high was because CPF was going to give him a chance to play RB while Auburn and Bama only wanted him at LB or safety. Nick Saban told him he would play on Sundays at Safety but he is set on playing RB. He committed to Ole Miss and I think that is a good fit for him. He will be playing RB in college and would be buried on UTs depth chart.

Cordova's QB Ryan Smith is a junior and very highly rated. They say him and Simon will go to the same school.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-recruiting/56222-tim-simon-rb-lb-recruit.html
 
#17
#17
gainesvol82 said:
What? 4.6 is fine for a MLB. He would need to be faster to play on the outside, not the other way around.
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Gainesvol82:

You need to get your facts right before you challenge someone. See the below assignment of the MLB in the Tampa 2 defense. The MLBs assignment is different than most other defensive schemes.

[edit] Tampa 2 description
The personnel used in the Tampa 2 are specific in position and required abilities. All positions in this defense place a premium on speed, and often the result is that they are all undersized by league standards. The defensive linemen in this scheme have to be quick and agile enough to create pressure on the quarterback without the aid of a blitz from either the linebackers or the secondary, with the defensive tackle in the nose position having above-average tackling skills to help stop runs.

The three linebackers, two cornerbacks and two safeties are responsible for covering the middle of the field. The outside linebackers general zone is between the cornerbacks covering the area of the field from the line of scrimmage to 10 yards back. The middle linebacker must have better-than-average speed, and additional skills to be able to read the play and either maintain his central position to help the outside linebackers cover short passes, drop behind the linebackers in coverage and protect the zone of the field behind the outside linebackers from 11-20 yards out, or run up to the line of scrimmage to help assist in stopping the runs. The cornerbacks protect the sidelines of the field from the line of scrimmage to anywhere between 15-20 yards out. An additional requirement for all of Dungy's linebackers and cornerbacks is to be above-average tacklers, as they are usually the primary tacklers in the defense.
 
#18
#18
volsgrad89 said:
Gainesvol82:

You need to get your facts right before you challenge someone. See the below assignment of the MLB in the Tampa 2 defense. The MLBs assignment is different than most other defensive schemes.

[edit] Tampa 2 description
The personnel used in the Tampa 2 are specific in position and required abilities. All positions in this defense place a premium on speed, and often the result is that they are all undersized by league standards. The defensive linemen in this scheme have to be quick and agile enough to create pressure on the quarterback without the aid of a blitz from either the linebackers or the secondary, with the defensive tackle in the nose position having above-average tackling skills to help stop runs.

The three linebackers, two cornerbacks and two safeties are responsible for covering the middle of the field. The outside linebackers general zone is between the cornerbacks covering the area of the field from the line of scrimmage to 10 yards back. The middle linebacker must have better-than-average speed, and additional skills to be able to read the play and either maintain his central position to help the outside linebackers cover short passes, drop behind the linebackers in coverage and protect the zone of the field behind the outside linebackers from 11-20 yards out, or run up to the line of scrimmage to help assist in stopping the runs. The cornerbacks protect the sidelines of the field from the line of scrimmage to anywhere between 15-20 yards out. An additional requirement for all of Dungy's linebackers and cornerbacks is to be above-average tacklers, as they are usually the primary tacklers in the defense.
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Considering a 4.5 is as fast or faster than quite a lot of NCAA WRs and something I'd consider "better than average speed for a LB"... I'd say he's quite able to play the MLB position in the Tampa 2 or no Tampa 2.
 
#19
#19
volsgrad89 said:
Gainesvol82:

You need to get your facts right before you challenge someone. See the below assignment of the MLB in the Tampa 2 defense. The MLBs assignment is different than most other defensive schemes.

[edit] Tampa 2 description
The personnel used in the Tampa 2 are specific in position and required abilities. All positions in this defense place a premium on speed, and often the result is that they are all undersized by league standards. The defensive linemen in this scheme have to be quick and agile enough to create pressure on the quarterback without the aid of a blitz from either the linebackers or the secondary, with the defensive tackle in the nose position having above-average tackling skills to help stop runs.

The three linebackers, two cornerbacks and two safeties are responsible for covering the middle of the field. The outside linebackers general zone is between the cornerbacks covering the area of the field from the line of scrimmage to 10 yards back. The middle linebacker must have better-than-average speed, and additional skills to be able to read the play and either maintain his central position to help the outside linebackers cover short passes, drop behind the linebackers in coverage and protect the zone of the field behind the outside linebackers from 11-20 yards out, or run up to the line of scrimmage to help assist in stopping the runs. The cornerbacks protect the sidelines of the field from the line of scrimmage to anywhere between 15-20 yards out. An additional requirement for all of Dungy's linebackers and cornerbacks is to be above-average tacklers, as they are usually the primary tacklers in the defense.
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Who told you a 4.5 is slow? I would be more concerned with shuttle time for a LB, and he's got a good time.
 
#20
#20
That guy has no idea what he is talking about. I can guarantee you he doesn't even really know what a cover 2 defense is. Trust me, 4.5 speed is plenty fast for a middle linebacker in any type of scheme. Volsgrad, have you ever played a down of football in your life?
 
#21
#21
Cover 2 defense generally applies to the both the strong and free safety. What ever the LBs and corners do is completely independent on this. Now, the who defense works together scheme wize. For example, you could have a zone on one side and man on the other. Or, you could have a cover 1, zone on the outside with a SS man on the slot. Zone on all secondary with man up on the MLB. There are so many variations.
In Monty's defense, there are many variations but the scheme he uses most is that requires the MLB to blitz, drop back in coverage, man up, or shadow. It is probably the most versital position on the field so the MLB has to be VERY athletic.
4.5 forty speed is plenty fast.
 
#22
#22
whall12 said:
That guy has no idea what he is talking about. I can guarantee you he doesn't even really know what a cover 2 defense is. Trust me, 4.5 speed is plenty fast for a middle linebacker in any type of scheme. Volsgrad, have you ever played a down of football in your life?
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Yes, I have. You don't make any statements on here. You just question others logic. I stated the MLB's speed was more critical than the OLB's speed in the Tampa 2. Which is true. You do the research and get back with me when you get a CLUE !!! Have you ever played a down of football?
 
#23
#23
volsgrad89 said:
Gainesvol82:

You need to get your facts right before you challenge someone. See the below assignment of the MLB in the Tampa 2 defense. The MLBs assignment is different than most other defensive schemes.

[edit] Tampa 2 description
The personnel used in the Tampa 2 are specific in position and required abilities. All positions in this defense place a premium on speed, and often the result is that they are all undersized by league standards. The defensive linemen in this scheme have to be quick and agile enough to create pressure on the quarterback without the aid of a blitz from either the linebackers or the secondary, with the defensive tackle in the nose position having above-average tackling skills to help stop runs.

The three linebackers, two cornerbacks and two safeties are responsible for covering the middle of the field. The outside linebackers general zone is between the cornerbacks covering the area of the field from the line of scrimmage to 10 yards back. The middle linebacker must have better-than-average speed, and additional skills to be able to read the play and either maintain his central position to help the outside linebackers cover short passes, drop behind the linebackers in coverage and protect the zone of the field behind the outside linebackers from 11-20 yards out, or run up to the line of scrimmage to help assist in stopping the runs. The cornerbacks protect the sidelines of the field from the line of scrimmage to anywhere between 15-20 yards out. An additional requirement for all of Dungy's linebackers and cornerbacks is to be above-average tacklers, as they are usually the primary tacklers in the defense.
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How does this, in any way, mean that a MLB needs to be faster than a 4.6? The OLBs protect the edges and the MLB is basically a spy in zone coverage. Of course a premium is placed on speed. However, 4.6 for a MLB is decent speed. Your facts are an article that you copied and pasted that you aren't quite understanding the meaning of. Everybody wants a fast MLB but that doesn't mean that Tampa 2 formation MLBs are faster than OLBs.
 
#25
#25
LINEBACKERS

Tim Shaw, Penn State – 4.48/4.41
Quincy Black, New Mexico – 4.42/4.48
Antwan Barnes, FIU – 4.48/4.45
Patrick Willis, Ole Miss – 4.48/4.51
Justin Durant, Hampton – 4.48/4.55
Chad Nkang, Elon – 4.51/4.55
David Harris, Michigan – 4.53/4.52
Lawrence Timmons, Florida State – 4.52/4.59
Juwan Simpson, Alabama – 4.53/4.58
Zac DeOssie, Brown – 4.56/4.59
Sam Olajubutu, Arkansas – 4.61/4.65
Buster Davis, Florida State – 4.62/4.67
Jon Beason, Miami (Fla.) – 4.63/4.65
*Paul Posluszny, Penn State – 4.65/4.63
Stewart Bradley, Nebraska – 4.63/4.70
Brandon Siler, Florida – 4.64/4.61
Michael Okwo, Stanford – 4.64/4.72
Dallas Sartz, USC – 4.66/4.68
Rufus Alexander, Oklahoma – 4.70
Quinton Culberson, Mississippi State – 4.72/4.77
KaMichael Hall, Georgia Tech – 4.74/4.77
Kelvin Smith, Syracuse – 4.78/4.81
Brandon Phillips, Oregon – 4.79/4.82
Earl Everett, Florida – 4.81
Prescott Burgess, Michigan – 4.85/4.82
Jonathan Abbate, Wake Forest – 4.88



WOW, alot of slow lb's that sucked huh? :D
 
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