Tiny is..

#26
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Man I hope Tiny puts him on his back especially after the way Clowney has acted this yr. If I was Spurrier I wouldn't put up with a player who thinks he's bigger than the gm. What a joke. Go get em Tiny! GO VOLS!
 
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Clowney is overrated. This is the age we live in though. He throw's one good hit and ESPN proclaims him the greatest DE prospect of the last 30 years.

What a joke.
 
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A BAD MUTHA @#$&€£!!
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Reivax26 said:
Clowney is overrated. This is the age we live in though. He throw's one good hit and ESPN proclaims him the greatest DE prospect of the last 30 years.

What a joke.
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He's doing the Jamal Lewis,thing just riding out the year trying not to get hurt so he can make millions next year.
 
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Reivax26 said:
Clowney is overrated. This is the age we live in though. He throw's one good hit and ESPN proclaims him the greatest DE prospect of the last 30 years.

What a joke.
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I'm obviously pro-Vol. I also am a fan of giving credit where it is due. While "The Hit" created much ballyhoo, Clowney was on radar before "The Hit." That event just brought attention to him as a fearsome pass rusher. If he wasn't legit, teams wouldn't be running the bulk of their plays away from him. Now, as for his antics, he's no worse than Johnny Football, or the cash exhibiting Bama player and other young dumbs who presume to be all that cause they got a bit of attention. It causes them to say and do things that are, well, dumb.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
I'm obviously pro-Vol. I also am a fan of giving credit where it is due. While "The Hit" created much ballyhoo, Clowney was on radar before "The Hit." That event just brought attention to him as a fearsome pass rusher. If he wasn't legit, teams wouldn't be running the bulk of their plays away from him. Now, as for his antics, he's no worse than Johnny Football, or the cash exhibiting Bama player and other young dumbs who presume to be all that cause they go a bit of attention. It causes them to say and do things that are, well, dumb.
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Agreed. He plays defensive end. It's not too hard to cut down on his impact of the game simply by running away from him. As far as pass protection goes, you can help out by chipping him with a back or various other ways to double him. However, if Tiny does what he did last year and can handle him one on one in pass protection, I think that bodes well for the offense.
 
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Vol in said:
Agreed. He plays defensive end. It's not too hard to cut down on his impact of the game simply by running away from him. As far as pass protection goes, you can help out by chipping him with a back or various other ways to double him. However, if Tiny does what he did last year and can handle him one on one in pass protection, I think that bodes well for the offense.
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Tiny should win the 1 on 1 battles. Jav is 274lbs and Tint is 320 something. I suspect Jav might have a speed advantage but if Tiny's footwork is all that's claimed, he wins overall. Clowney for the most part has been able to either speed by his man or simply just shove him out of the way. He won't shoving Tiny anywhere. And Tiny does take up as much space as McCullers so speed while an advantage, isn't overwhelming as long as the QB stays to Tiny's right hand side. Out left, it's a tossup.
 
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Tiny can dominate the game against Clowney like last year and Clowney can still make a play or two in the game that could significantly change the game. It happened last year that way. It could easily happen that way again.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Tiny owned him last year when Clowney actually cared.
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I never realized "owning" entailed giving up a sack on the most important play of the game. Weird.

Tiny hasn't really been playing as well as expected this season. The Georgia DE had a pretty good game against him. Then again, Clowney hasn't lived up to his hype either.
 
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oregonvol said:
I never realized "owning" entailed giving up a sack on the most important play of the game. Weird.

Tiny hasn't really been playing as well as expected this season. The Georgia DE had a pretty good game against him. Then again, Clowney hasn't lived up to his hype either.
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I wouldn't say owned, but dominated him thoroughly, your sample size is 1 mine would be the all the other offensive plays that they were matched up on.

So not owned completely but def dominated him that game for sure. wish he could have held on one more sec on the play he gave up the sack though! Oh well, live and learn.
 
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GrowVol said:
Going to own Clowney this wknd, no doubts. After last year's games final sack and Clowney running his mouth during media days, it's on. Tiny is going to crush him, bank on it.
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He did all game long, last year, but even the best OT's will get beat on a play once in a while.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
He did all game long, last year, but even the best OT's will get beat on a play once in a while.
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I know this, but it was at the end of the game on a game winning drive. Tiny beat down Clowney up until that play.But I bet "once in a while" won't happen this weekend if we get(hopefully) to a we are driving down in the 4th to win the game. Tiny is great, but I bet he will come alive if it happens again this wknd.:dance2:
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
Not exactly. He's known now so teams design plays to try to remove him as a factor. They run away from his side of the line. They double and triple team him. They cut block. As Spurrier said last week, you always have to account for Clowney. That's what coaches have been doing, designing plays that avoid him for the most part. Knowing this, USCe can anticipate it and overload the opposite side once a play is in motion. Result is increased tackles for other team members and next to none for Clowney. You fail to account fo him and he'll make you pay the price.
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All coaches scheme up to account for great players. I doesn't much work, at least not with any consistency, with the "truly great" ones. Not sure Clowney is one quite yet.
 
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KBVol said:
All coaches scheme up to account for great players. I doesn't much work, at least not with any consistency, with the "truly great" ones. Not sure Clowney is one quite yet.
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That's not the point. The point is he's being mocked or criticized for not putting up the stats of last year. He isn't because coaches are avoiding his side of the line. Great or not the putdowns on his are unjustified. he doesn't have to tackle or sack, he's limiting the play options by forcing people to run away from him. This means more of his teammates can gang up on where the alternate plays are directed. So people badmouthing the guy should know what they're talking about before doing so.
Jadeveon Clowney Blew Up a Running Play With Three Blockers On Him, Is Still Good at College Football | The Big Lead
 
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KBVol said:
Yep. He's overrated based on the incredible amount of press and projections put on him coming into the season.

It's not his fault that ESPN and other media outlets played his hit on Vincent Smith over and over and over for six months to the point that people now expect him to do that every play.

Heisman trophy winner/candidate? Really?

See above.

Is he a great talent? Absolutely. Has he even remotely been the best player on his own team this year? No.

He's far and away the best player for South Carolina, whether or not you care to acknowledge it. Has he performed at 100% every game this year? No. He still impacts the game, though. Coaches have to know where he is at every play. He is drawing double and triple teams on about every play. Nice try, though.
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For Clowney it's a combination of things. Yes coaches are game planning for him big time and then Clowney half asses half the time. He will make a play or two but when he gets frustrated he is done. With Tiny you just hope he keeps poised bc his emotions sometimes run high. No doubt tiny is focused. If he stays level headed and determined I truly believe he will take Clowney right out of the game. Got to take advantage of their Defense's second level.
 
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Reivax26 said:
Clowney is overrated. This is the age we live in though. He throw's one good hit and ESPN proclaims him the greatest DE prospect of the last 30 years.

What a joke.
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He's not overrated at all. He may not be playing to his potential, but the guy is a freak. I'm worried that this game is the one he has had circled because Tiny is one of the premiere tackles in football and did a great job against him last year.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
That's not the point. The point is he's being mocked or criticized for not putting up the stats of last year. He isn't because coaches are avoiding his side of the line. Great or not the putdowns on his are unjustified. he doesn't have to tackle or sack, he's limiting the play options by forcing people to run away from him. This means more of his teammates can gang up on where the alternate plays are directed. So people badmouthing the guy should know what they're talking about before doing so.
Jadeveon Clowney Blew Up a Running Play With Three Blockers On Him, Is Still Good at College Football | The Big Lead
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Are you telling me they didnt scheme for him last year? That they didn't run away from him the last 2 years? Not trying to bad mouth the kid, just saying what I and a helluva lot of people see. He has issues this year.... mentally, emotionally, physically. Hes not playing particularly well this year. He hasn't been their best player.

He's hardly the only great DE that OCs plan for.... he hasn't responded well. My point is that the great ones find ways to produce despite the "extra attention". He came into the season with more hype than any other defensive player I've ever seen this side of Charles F-ing Woodson.... at point he hasn't come close to living up to it.
 
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KBVol said:
Are you telling me they didnt scheme for him last year? That they didn't run away from him the last 2 years? Not trying to bad mouth the kid, just saying what I and a helluva lot of people see. He has issues this year.... mentally, emotionally, physically. Hes not playing particularly well this year. He hasn't been their best player.

He's hardly the only great DE that OCs plan for.... he hasn't responded well. My point is that the great ones find ways to produce despite the "extra attention". He came into the season with more hype than any other defensive player I've ever seen this side of Charles F-ing Woodson.... at point he hasn't come close to living up to it.
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OK, done. We've both made our point and remain immobile on the same. have the nicest day, cause you're a Vol fan too.
 
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