Titans Seek Evidence of Tampering in Albert Haynesworth Deal

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Titans seek tampering evidence against Redskins | www.tennessean.com | The Tennessean

Gonna be hard to prove, but it's quite clear that it went on. I was surprised we didn't hear more fuss about this after his signing. Looks like the Titans are trying to keep it behind closed doors. As hard as it is to keep good players these days the last thing you need is another team negotiating with your players before free agency.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
Titans seek tampering evidence against Redskins | www.tennessean.com | The Tennessean

Gonna be hard to prove, but it's quite clear that it went on. I was surprised we didn't hear more fuss about this after his signing. Looks like the Titans are trying to keep it behind closed doors. As hard as it is to keep good players these days the last thing you need is another team negotiating with your players before free agency.
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How is it quite clear that the 'Skins tampered? If blogger speculation and a meeting between his agent and Washington at the Combine are all they got, I don't see them winning that case.
 
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If you think they hammered out the largest deal for a defensive player in the history of the game in 4 hours, that's your prerogative, I guess. I call BS.
 
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It does to me. Obviously it wouldn't to a Redskins fan. I said it was "quite clear" not blatantly clear.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
If you think they hammered out the largest deal for a defensive player in the history of the game in 4 hours, that's your prerogative, I guess. I call BS.
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Washington definitely came to the table knowing what they could or would offer, as does every NFL team come free agency. If you factor in that he was only considering about 5 teams to start with, it's not that surprising that he'd quickly accept an offer to be the highest paid defensive player. Washington has the best tradition of that group and Snyder is an owner willing to put up the bucks.

Carolina may have been able to match, but I didn't see him signing to a place where there top defensive lineman wants out bad. It was very clear as of about 3 weeks ago he wasn't returning to the Titans.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
It does to me. Obviously it wouldn't to a Redskins fan. I said it was "quite clear" not blatantly clear.
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what does being a fan of either team have to do with making clear? That just makes it sound like sour grapes.
 
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The Redskins tampered, everyone knows it but it can't be proven and the Titans and every other teams do the same thing. The Redskins will have problems as long as they keep relying on free agency to fix all their problems. Most teams are taking notice of how New England managed their team and how they stay at the top for so long. The Titans are one of the teams that have adpoted this strategy of not overpaying for players and finding guys like Nate Washington at lower prices to fill gaps while letting the draft make your team. Teams like the Redskins and Raiders think they can buy a Super Bowl every year when FA rolls around so let Big Al look around and watch as his teammates start getting cut once the skins get in salary cap hell.

I bet the odds are very good that the Titans have a better record than the Redskins for the amount of time Haynesworth is in Washington.
 
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Danny boy knew what he was doing, and what kind of chowda Haynesworth wanted.

its not like they woke up on friday and were like, "lets get Haynesworth"
 
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Just about every team out there speaks to players agents when they are not allowed to. It has been happening for years and will continue to do so. For those that think the Redskins did not approach Haynesworth's agent before the allowed time you are kidding yourselves, the Redskins weren't the only ones to do so. In the grand scheme of things this isn't really a big deal, happens all the time.
 
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Redskins won't sniff the playoffs this year regardless of how they acquired Haynesworth.
 
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MG1968 said:
Redskins won't sniff the playoffs this year regardless of how they acquired Haynesworth.
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so they barely missed the playoffs, have signifiantly improved their O-line and D-line which were the two biggest weaknesses from last year and the draft is still yet to come, but you already know the Redskins won't sniff the playoffs? Genius.
 
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they'll still take 3-4 games off like they do every year, and miss out, again.

just like Haynesworth does.
 
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doozer said:
they'll still take 3-4 games off like they do every year, and miss out, again.

just like Haynesworth does.
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they might miss the playoffs, but with the fact that the Cowboys haven't improved (no matter how you spin the TO issue) and the Eagles let Brian Dawkins go, they will definitely be in contention as much, if not more, than they were this year. To say they won't even sniff the playoffs is absurd.

I think they make it in. Probably won't win the East, but should get a WC. And I'm usually a pessimist and I don't trust our QB or the coach.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
PLA-EZE

sounds like a bunch of sour grapes over here
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Not all of us. It's a business move for the Titans. If they get a ruling in their favor than it was worth pursuing, if not than they're not out anything. It's a good move on their part, I do believe all the teams use the same tactics and bend or break the same rules. The Redskins did what they had to do and the Titans would have done the same thing. I still believe the Redskins tampered it's just that I don't care that they did it. I also believe the Titans are much smarter in the way they go about running their franchise than the Redskins because they don't get too close to going over the cap. They've been down that road before with Floyd Reese when the Titans had to blow the team up.
 
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615 Vol said:
Not all of us. It's a business move for the Titans. If they get a ruling in their favor than it was worth pursuing, if not than they're not out anything. It's a good move on their part, I do believe all the teams use the same tactics and bend or break the same rules. The Redskins did what they had to do and the Titans would have done the same thing. I still believe the Redskins tampered it's just that I don't care that they did it. I also believe the Titans are much smarter in the way they go about running their franchise than the Redskins because they don't get too close to going over the cap. They've been down that road before with Floyd Reese when the Titans had to blow the team up.
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Pass The Koolaid... The Titans are ranked 20th in franchise worth, and the Skins are ranked 2nd and worth $1.5 Billion and have an operating income of double the Titans

NFL Team Valuations sorted by Rank - Forbes.com
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Pass The Koolaid... The Titans are ranked 20th in franchise worth, and the Skins are ranked 2nd and worth $1.5 Billion and have an operating income of double the Titans

NFL Team Valuations sorted by Rank - Forbes.com
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I think he was speaking more about the way they built their franchise up as far as drafting and free agency, not the worth of the franchise. If we go by your comparison it would still lend credence to his point. That the Titans have achieved more with less.
 
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Drafting!!! Vince Young, Pacman... yea awesome picks

Titans
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 8-8
2007 7-6
2008 13-3

Skins
2004 6-10
2005 10-6
2006 5-11
2007 9-7
2008 8-8


look pretty similar

and the NFC East is way better than the AFC North
 
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I was a washington fan before the titans came to town. I really don't care either way here. We weren't going to pay albert that much money. The titans screwed up by not locking him down before they franchise tagged him. Can't make any excuses for them here, they just flat screwed that one up. Dan snyder is why the skins haven't been relevent in quite some time. Too much like jerry jones, likes to stick his nose in everything.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Drafting!!! Vince Young, Pacman... yea awesome picks

Titans
2004 5-11
2005 4-12
2006 8-8
2007 7-6
2008 13-3

Skins
2004 6-10
2005 10-6
2006 5-11
2007 9-7
2008 8-8


look pretty similar

and the NFC East is way better than the AFC North
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That would be AFC South. It may be better the last year or so but I'm not so sure about it being that much tougher if you go back a couple of years.
 
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
Pass The Koolaid... The Titans are ranked 20th in franchise worth, and the Skins are ranked 2nd and worth $1.5 Billion and have an operating income of double the Titans

NFL Team Valuations sorted by Rank - Forbes.com
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The Titans are one of the lowest valued teams in the league because they play in Nashville. The Tampa Bay Rays are worth far less than my Dodgers but they sure did a lot more last year. If there wasn't a cap then that would come into play and they could spend like the Yankees. Until then their worth doesn't give them an advantage.
 
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KB5252 said:
That would be AFC South. It may be better the last year or so but I'm not so sure about it being that much tougher if you go back a couple of years.
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True, the Jags were very good until last season and the Colts have been good for several years. I do agree that the NFC East is tougher but it's not a big gap between the two.
 
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Cartervol said:
I was a washington fan before the titans came to town. I really don't care either way here. We weren't going to pay albert that much money. The titans screwed up by not locking him down before they franchise tagged him. Can't make any excuses for them here, they just flat screwed that one up. Dan snyder is why the skins haven't been relevent in quite some time. Too much like jerry jones, likes to stick his nose in everything.
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I don't really see it that way. I think the Titans were being safe about a guy that had more than a couple of question marks. They were only off a million that Al wanted moved to the front end of the contract. The Titans were being cautious got good play from him the last two years he was here. Before that he most certainly was not worth a long term heavy cap hit.
 
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volfanbill said:
so they barely missed the playoffs, have signifiantly improved their O-line and D-line which were the two biggest weaknesses from last year and the draft is still yet to come, but you already know the Redskins won't sniff the playoffs? Genius.
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it's been proven time and again that throwing money around on an all pro roster doesn't guarantee you anything but higher ticket prices.
 
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