'20 TN DE Jay Hardy (Auburn commit)

[Ulysees E. McGill]

There is a 72 hour window to sign during ESP. Those folks have one job. I find that especially hard to believe it can be added “late” and no one knew.

Yet..you don't find it especially hard to believe that our staff are incompentent idiots...interesting.

 

[CAVPUT]

He said Auburn didn't pay him and UT was the only school who tried to. I think that's a good lie to check into.

So accuse the opponent of the crimes you're actually committing? Seems so very familiar.

 

[Jackcrevol]

As a consumer who uses airplanes, roads, and bridges,I hope this nut job sticks with football and never “engineers” anything.

he engineered a complete down the rails cluster ****.

 

[jakez4ut]

There is a 72 hour window to sign during ESP. Those folks have one job. I find that especially hard to believe it can be added “late” and no one knew.

I’m betting no one goes back and checks once one of the two primary prospects you're still recruiting says he's gonna visit, says he hasn't signed, and says he wants to continue working on relationships with coaches.


Blaming UT here reeks of agenda pushing.
Bama started to push last week...

Every recruiting service had him as unsigned.

But this is UT's fault...

 

[peddi631]

It’s been in the database for at least 3 weeks. UT might have checked the last day of the ESP and Auburn might have delayed uploading it but it had been there for some time.

Lots of blame to go around and most of it falls on Hardy and Auburn. UT AD and Compliance did a poor job of supporting the coaching staff and wasted 3 coaches’ time coming out of a dead period. Hopefully it’s a lesson learned.

This is just the latest attention grabber for these recruits that need attention. I can't cast stones at UT for not knowing without first looking at myself. I'm sure you knew or you wouldn't have made a post such as this. Good catch.

 

[chargervol]

It's like Chris Russell last year. There's not that many players left after ESD.

Plus we're sports fans, which means most of us are competitive by nature.
Anytime we're in a battle that's supposed to be close, we're going to become involved.
The "who" is of little importance haha.

 

[VolInDayton]

There is a 72 hour window to sign during ESP. Those folks have one job. I find that especially hard to believe it can be added “late” and no one knew.

23 pieces of paper is very hard for a whole department to keep track for a 3 day period.

 

[ngavolgirl]

AND it is more than the fact that he signed...he was ENCOURAGING the coaches to contact him in his interviews. He said he was wanting to visit and get more involved with the coaches and current players. It was completely trying to entrap UT. There is no defense of what he was doing or trying to do. If this kid is an engineering prospect he isn't that dumb. Auburn knew what they were doing and the fact that they didn't add him until yesterday to their "welcome" from early signing day shows they were involved in the deception. I'm not even mentioning the parents. They were completely involved. I am all for kids going where they feel is best for them. UT shouldn't have to look every single day between early signing day and the regular signing to see if a LOI shows up. The kid should be embarrassed but he won't be. The NCAA needs to make it so you have to go ahead and announce if you sign. If you don't want to announce, then wait til February.

 

[GAVol]

The NCAA needs to make it so you have to go ahead and announce if you sign. If you don't want to announce, then wait til February.

I agree. Don't see what's so difficult about that.

 

[Jimmy Football]

The NCAA needs to make it so you have to go ahead and announce if you sign. If you don't want to announce, then wait til February.

This.

 

[bignewt]

Props to those of us that wrote this dude off when he committed to the barn.

 

[m1al]

Props to those of us that wrote this dude off when he committed to the barn.

 

[SweetasSoda]

From the National Letter of Intent Rules,
“I shall notify any coach who contacts me that I have signed an NLI.“

This.... and he absolutely misled everyone at other schools and recruiting services who wasted valuable time on him. But the worst part is he made public comments about Tennessee coaches not doing their job of recruiting him after all the time and money they spent on him with his many trips to Knoxville. That's malicious.

 

[tnktm]

Sounds like this guy would have been a cancer on the team - we dodged a bullet.

 

[onevol74]

Yes but that was a recent screen shot. No way to know when it was updated to show when it was added. I find it very hard to believe TN, Alabama, another school that I can't recall, all the recruiting services all missed it. Remember, TN wasn't the only school that was in contact over the last few days. I suspect Auburn just reported to the NCAA that he signed.

Yes there is a way to find out when it was updated. There is a log when changes are made.

 

[SweetasSoda]

Plus we're sports fans, which means most of us are competitive by nature.
Anytime we're in a battle that's supposed to be close, we're going to become involved.
The "who" is of little importance haha.

Exactly. Wanted to at least make Auburn sweat it and pay more.

 

[onevol74]

This.... and he absolutely misled everyone at other schools and recruiting services who wasted valuable time on him. But the worst part is he made public comments about Tennessee coaches not doing their job of recruiting him after all the time and money they spent on him with his many trips to Knoxville. That's malicious.

Should warrant a NCAA investigation.

 

[SweetasSoda]

AND it is more than the fact that he signed...he was ENCOURAGING the coaches to contact him in his interviews. He said he was wanting to visit and get more involved with the coaches and current players. It was completely trying to entrap UT. There is no defense of what he was doing or trying to do. If this kid is an engineering prospect he isn't that dumb. Auburn knew what they were doing and the fact that they didn't add him until yesterday to their "welcome" from early signing day shows they were involved in the deception. I'm not even mentioning the parents. They were completely involved. I am all for kids going where they feel is best for them. UT shouldn't have to look every single day between early signing day and the regular signing to see if a LOI shows up. The kid should be embarrassed but he won't be. The NCAA needs to make it so you have to go ahead and announce if you sign. If you don't want to announce, then wait til February.

 

[INDEFENSE]

I was brought up if you don't have anything good to say about a person, don't say anything so.............. Mods PLEASE remove this joke of a thread.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

I think I understand what happened here. This kid and his family were feeling disrespected by what our guys were "offering"..Awbarn saw an opportunity and went all in on the $ end..while playing up that UT had disrespected, took them for granted, and took advantage of them by "offering" so much less...hence the malicious trolling of our guys.

 

[vol81]

If he indeed did sign and did not tell our coaches, and continued to have contact with them,we are required report it to ncaa.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I think I understand what happened here. This kid and his family were feeling disrespected by what our guys were "offering"..Awbarn saw an opportunity and went all in on the $ end..while playing up that UT had disrespected, took them for granted, and took advantage of them by "offering" so much less...hence the malicious trolling of our guys.

Wish I knew what happened when Omari Thomas visited and rejected them.

 

[ThreatLevelOrange]

Yet..you don't find it especially hard to believe that our staff are incompentent idiots...interesting.

Not this time. Hardy was still denying he signed it even while Price broke the story. Why would our “idiot” coaches second guess the LOI page without his name on it? All while being invited into his home for a visit. Price was tipped off by the Auburn media, not the player (family), Auburn, is the NCAA.

 

[Ulysees E. McGill]

Wish I knew what happened when Omari Thomas visited and rejected them.

I would say we pre-empted Awbarn on OT.

 

[SweetasSoda]

If he indeed did sign and did not tell our coaches, and continued to have contact with them,we are required report it to ncaa.

I would also like to know how Phil intends to handle this!