TN defensive starters out injured last week.

[sjt18]

Rucker has been ok in coverage but he’s definitely on the small side so he can get picked on. Not going to see him break up a lot of passes.

To me, UT's secondary would be instantly better if they were more physical at the LOS. I seldom see any of them redirect a receiver. I know there are risks but at the same time there are huge rewards if your DL can get home too.

 

[BigALWiLson]

To me, UT's secondary would be instantly better if they were more physical at the LOS. I seldom see any of them redirect a receiver. I know there are risks but at the same time there are huge rewards if your DL can get home too.

Lol while I normally agree with you on many things this isn't one of them. They walked up man against LSU and got beat, Same with UF and tried again Saturday against an FCS school. We just don't have guys who are comfortable enough to play in space with confidence. I expect that to change soon. However I woukd be thrilled if it finally clicked tomorrow

 

[sjt18]

Lol while I normally agree with you on many things this isn't one of them. They walked up man against LSU and got beat, Same with UF and tried again Saturday against an FCS school. We just don't have guys who are comfortable enough to play in space with confidence. I expect that to change soon. However I woukd be thrilled if it finally clicked tomorrow

I think you disagreed... but then didn't disagree. If they were physical enough then a lot of those short timing type routes that UF and LSU made a living on wouldn't have been so easy.

If it is 3rd and 7 and you put a blitz on then give WR's a free release or worse your zone doesn't cover the flats... you're not going to have a lot of success.

 

[BigALWiLson]

I think we need a major talent upgrade in the secondary. That's just me. But i dont think its all coaching. These dbs have to turn their head. When running one on one. Ive seen a vouple times this year a guys in position and never finds the ball. They lack awareness imo

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I think we need a major talent upgrade in the secondary. That's just me. But i dont think its all coaching. These dbs have to turn their head. When running one on one. Ive seen a vouple times this year a guys in position and never finds the ball. They lack awareness imo

Agree. That's middle school technique.

 

[BACKDOC]

I hope they are all back, but seems to me like there isn’t much difference between McCullugh/Hadden and the rest of our DBs. We don’t seem to have a playmaker in the secondary, just a bunch of bodies. Dee may change that tho. We’ll see

Hadden has had multiple int.'s, and barely missed on a couple of more...................just barely out of bounds on one against Akron, and was in position to make one vs Pitt, but Banks tipped it.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

To me, UT's secondary would be instantly better if they were more physical at the LOS. I seldom see any of them redirect a receiver. I know there are risks but at the same time there are huge rewards if your DL can get home too.

Hmmmm interesting. I agree with you but it begs the question. Why aren’t they more physical? Is it that they aren’t talented enough? Or is that a reflection on poor coaching?

 

[LittleVol]

I think we need a major talent upgrade in the secondary. That's just me. But i dont think its all coaching. These dbs have to turn their head. When running one on one. Ive seen a vouple times this year a guys in position and never finds the ball. They lack awareness imo

They're being coached NOT to turn their head if they're not running even.

It's a trend you see more and more of.

I argue that one reason why Bryce Thompson was so good at CB was because he played WR and felt comfortable attacking the ball...turning his head and such.
The other reason, was because he didn't spend years getting coached to "get beat".

 

[sjt18]

Hmmmm interesting. I agree with you but it begs the question. Why aren’t they more physical? Is it that they aren’t talented enough? Or is that a reflection on poor coaching?

Could be some of both. But to me it looks more like scheme. You aren't going to be physical if you are 10 yds off the LOS at the snap.

 

[EZE]

Have you read the account from JM and the other witnesses that corroborate his account?

You have the "evidence" of the testimony of a drunk guy who apparently entered an apartment then refused to leave vs... pretty much everyone else and apparently the physical evidence.

How does this sound? Guy entered the apartment under what exact circumstances we do not know. Maybe he was lost. Maybe he knew the girl or someone else. He was told to leave. He began to argue and refused to leave. Finally he was threatened and left but then threatened or attempted to come back in. JM then punched him. Probably from having his bell run and being drunk, he then fell down the stairs. When the police arrived, he told a drunken story that clumsily attempted to white wash his own guilt. Now both sides have been told. It appears that he was in fact primarily at fault for the incident.

Bump. How did this age for you biased, legal experts?

I tried to tell you…. And I’d rather be wrong than right on this one.

And he might still beat this rap, but it will only be after the evidence is considered.

 

[EZE]

The university decided there wasn't enough to hold him responsible for conduct issues. You've now been linked the additional materials.

Fascinating that you'll hastily jump to foolish conclusions one way, but not let someone else take the other side. Fascinating indeed.

Bump.

 

[ButchPlz]

Bump.

Fantastic bump, considering nothing new has actually come out. You ain't a bright one, are you?

 

[EZE]

Fantastic bump, considering nothing new has actually come out. You ain't a bright one, are you?

I’m just not the naive, biased one.

And just a hint…I might know a little bit about these types of matters.

 

[ButchPlz]

I’m just not the naive, biased one.

And just a hint…I might know a little bit about these types of matters.

There's been one biased jackass in here ready to throw the book. You.

The bolded explains a lot. Low quality person, very poor judgement gobbling up the testimony of a drunk.

 

[EZE]

There's been one biased jackass in here ready to throw the book. You.

The bolded explains a lot. Low quality person.

Not ready to throw the book…I actually hope he beats the rap. I just tried to tell all of you to pump the brakes because you don’t know the whole story (and neither do I). But feel free to carry on in Fantasyland.

And I’ll refrain from responding in kind with personal attacks. Explains a lot when people spout off without knowing anything about another person on line.

 

[ButchPlz]

Not ready to throw the book…I actually hope he beats the rap. I just tried to tell all of you to pump the brakes because you don’t know the whole story (and neither do I). But feel free to carry on in Fantasyland.

And I’ll refrain from responding in kind with personal attacks. Explains a lot when people spout off without knowing anything about another person on line.

And which person dropped the "naive, biased" line?

You bumped an old thread. You came in here spouting off like a clown after reading one set of testimony. Not any of us. Nothing I said is wrong- you're acting like a fool, and what you shared shows who actually probably has bias involved.

You wanted to stir the sh*t and now it's stirred. You're still not a bright little man.

 

[igotworms]

I’m just not the naive, biased one.

And just a hint…I might know a little bit about these types of matters.

Did you ever learn to stay out of someone's apartment uninvited tho?

 

[ButchPlz]

Did you ever learn to stay out of someone's apartment uninvited tho?

He relates too much to the drunk, methinks.

 

[EZE]

Did you ever learn to stay out of someone's apartment uninvited tho?

I get it. But that won’t be the big issue. The big issue likely will be whether the occupants had a reasonable fear of harm that justified beating the uninvited intruder.

 

[EZE]

He relates too much to the drunk, methinks.

No, I’m looking at it objectively the way the court will look at it. My emotional response is irrelevant.

But, hey, I’m the dumb guy with engineering and law degrees. Perhaps if I was an enlightened liberal arts major I might engage in a more emotional “analysis.”

 

[sjt18]

Bump. How did this age for you biased, legal experts?

I tried to tell you…. And I’d rather be wrong than right on this one.

And he might still beat this rap, but it will only be after the evidence is considered.

Fairly well. His story aligns with the witnesses and facts. The other guy's story does not.

I never claimed to be a "legal expert"... only that idiots were jumping to conclusions and that the "victim's" story didn't sound right.

 

[sjt18]

I’m just not the naive, biased one.

And just a hint…I might know a little bit about these types of matters.

And there STILL hasn't been anything new become public.

What "types" of matters? They're all the same, right?

So far what we have is Burrell, JM, and the girl telling stories that are consistent with both each other and the physical evidence. You have the "victim's" drunken tale that doesn't appear to match the facts... even the distance from the door to stairs... or the testimony of the others. That's what we "know". What happened to put you in "I told you so" mode?

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Bump. How did this age for you biased, legal experts?

I tried to tell you…. And I’d rather be wrong than right on this one.

And he might still beat this rap, but it will only be after the evidence is considered.

The link you just quoted from SJT, that pretty much exactly matches what both sides said happened during this week's preliminary hearing. There are points of disagreement between the parties involved, but in the broad strokes, SJT seems to have nailed it.

Are you trying to call him out here?

 

[CAVPUT]

No, I’m looking at it objectively the way the court will look at it. My emotional response is irrelevant.

But, hey, I’m the dumb guy with engineering and law degrees. Perhaps if I was an enlightened liberal arts major I might engage in a more emotional “analysis.”

Used to like you as a poster then you revealed you're a lawyer. Cue up the lawyer jokes.

 

[lefthander]

Could be some of both. But to me it looks more like scheme. You aren't going to be physical if you are 10 yds off the LOS at the snap.

I believe its talent. All of a sudden you see Bama dbs collecting on PI penalty after the other because they are not talented enough to play man against sec receivers and Saban refuses to play zone.
Our guys play off. Not sure which is better and until we upgrade talent question will remain open.