To everyone who is worried about our offensive line

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If you are not worried about the O-Line you haven't been paying attention to football very long. I think the beginning of this season will be much like 2010. We had a bunch of talented young guys, but they weren't ready for the SEC. I remember Simms running for his life quite a bit and not having much time to get rid of the ball. There will definitely be growing pains well into the season.
 
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WoodsmanVol said:
There's an orange storm brewing. Far out at sea it's currently lifting the moisture and heat it needs. Gathering strength, flashing skyfire, grumbling, and growing stronger. If you listen carefully, really carefully, you'll hear the whispered promise, "I'm coming. I'm coming. The orange storm is coming."

Soon the howl and the fury of the orange storm will reveal itself. Until then, there's the promise, 'I'm coming."

Orange Storm II on Vimeo
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WTH did i just watch?
 
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Based on what I saw at the spring game, the line is in for some growing pains, especially, at the tackle positions. The guards and center look to be serviceable against most teams that UT will face this season. The tackles still have a long way to go to get to that point.
 
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Rooster1 said:
Is that right?
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Im not sure about the D-line, but all we heard last year was we had an NFL O-line. Seems the NFL felt differently based on the draft....I'm cautiously optimistic about the O-line especially if we end up with a mobile QB who doesn't have to stand in the pocket too long. Hopefully, even with Worley our receivers will be so skilled they get open quicker. This wont matter however if Worley doesn't quit killing worms.
 
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It's hard to say which O-line is better before the season even starts. The real problem is the glaring lack of depth. I would be shocked if Mosley and Robertson don't end up on offense.
 
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They were the best line in the country in 2012 but last year they severely under performed. The Vandy loss because they couldn't stop them is an example. Also, holding Clowney all game and then giving up a pivotal sack against SC almost cost us the game. We were almost 4-8 because of that. They just couldn't perform in big situations. I think we'll be at least as good this year, possibly better.
 
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AF_VOL said:
If you are not worried about the O-Line you haven't been paying attention to football very long. I think the beginning of this season will be much like 2010. We had a bunch of talented young guys, but they weren't ready for the SEC. I remember Simms running for his life quite a bit and not having much time to get rid of the ball. There will definitely be growing pains well into the season.
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Should be nothing like '10. That team also replaced every starter. It was MORE dependent on Fr than this one. The "best" returning upperclassman was Jerrod Shaw.

This OL will have limited game experience but they have several good players with 2-4 years of development with the last two being with Jones and his staff.

The thing I am most hopeful about though is that last year's OL was made up of 5 good athletes who never seemed to quite gel as a unit. They seemed to gel personally but didn't have that trust and anticipation that you should be able to expect. Worse yet, they just weren't aggressive. Jones rightly complained about them not finishing blocks. An OL should NEVER be caught standing watching a tackle.

There a lot of unknowns this fall but a few important things we do know. We know these guys have had sufficient time to be developed physically and mentally in Jones' system or in Thomas' case was recruited for it. We know that the interior guys are talented and well developed... and play with a mean streak. We know the talent drop off exists but is not extraordinary.
 
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Captain Awesome said:
They were the best line in the country in 2012 but last year they severely under performed. The Vandy loss because they couldn't stop them is an example. Also, holding Clowney all game and then giving up a pivotal sack against SC almost cost us the game. We were almost 4-8 because of that. They just couldn't perform in big situations. I think we'll be at least as good this year, possibly better.
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Now, what was it that changed from 2012 to 2013?

Hmm!!
 
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CLCVol said:
I imagine you're going for the coaching change, but that doesn't quite have the effect that the system change had.
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Well, I would lean more to actual situational play calling than the actual coaching.

That's why some of us are not very confident in the coordinators that Jones brought in to run the offense and defense

Jones may be a great coach and he's a proven so far to be a good recruiter, but he will live or die by his choices of coordinators. Much like we saw with Fulmer, they can make you or break you
 
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AF_VOL said:
If you are not worried about the O-Line you haven't been paying attention to football very long. I think the beginning of this season will be much like 2010. We had a bunch of talented young guys, but they weren't ready for the SEC. I remember Simms running for his life quite a bit and not having much time to get rid of the ball. There will definitely be growing pains well into the season.
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Simm's ran because the O'Line couldn't hold the D-Line for 5 mins while Matt found a receiver to throw to. :hi:
 
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CountVolcula said:
Well, I would lean more to actual situational play calling than the actual coaching.

That's why some of us are not very confident in the coordinators that Jones brought in to run the offense and defense

Jones may be a great coach and he's a proven so far to be a good recruiter, but he will live or die by his choices of coordinators. Much like we saw with Fulmer, they can make you or break you
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Sal approves this post. :thumbsup:
 
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What I saw of Weisman last year,,he is nasty.Just what we have been needing.It will help everyone along both lines !!
 
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CountVolcula said:
Well, I would lean more to actual situational play calling than the actual coaching.

That's why some of us are not very confident in the coordinators that Jones brought in to run the offense and defense

Jones may be a great coach and he's a proven so far to be a good recruiter, but he will live or die by his choices of coordinators. Much like we saw with Fulmer, they can make you or break you
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While I'm not completely sold on the assistants butch brought in, I don't think year 1 is indicative of what we can expect. With a scheme change, in year 1, you're limited in what plays you can call by what plays the team understands completely. I personally think this season will give us a better idea of what we can expect.

Butch's history has shown a significant improvement in year 2. While I don't expect it to translate into wins, I think we will see definite improvements.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Well, I would lean more to actual situational play calling than the actual coaching.

That's why some of us are not very confident in the coordinators that Jones brought in to run the offense and defense

Jones may be a great coach and he's a proven so far to be a good recruiter, but he will live or die by his choices of coordinators. Much like we saw with Fulmer, they can make you or break you
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IMO a significant distinction between Butch's coordinators and the train wrecks that were Fulmer/Clawson and Dooley/Sunseri is that these are Butch's guys running their system that they have developed over the past 7 years together.

Butch, Jake and Jancek are on the same page...no need for Butch to micro-manage and override/abandon the game plan. We saw that kind of dissension with the Clawfense and with Sal.

There is something very reassuring about this staff and the energy they bring - I don't sense any of the personality conflict / power struggle issues that we've seen with some of the previous staffs (2008 ,2010-2012).

With time and talent the wins will follow.
 
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Captain Awesome said:
They were the best line in the country in 2012 but last year they severely under performed. The Vandy loss because they couldn't stop them is an example. Also, holding Clowney all game and then giving up a pivotal sack against SC almost cost us the game. We were almost 4-8 because of that. They just couldn't perform in big situations. I think we'll be at least as good this year, possibly better.
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Not even close to the best line in the country in 2012.
 
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CountVolcula said:
Well, I would lean more to actual situational play calling than the actual coaching.

That's why some of us are not very confident in the coordinators that Jones brought in to run the offense and defense

Jones may be a great coach and he's a proven so far to be a good recruiter, but he will live or die by his choices of coordinators. Much like we saw with Fulmer, they can make you or break you
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I believe the man got a very,very high paying job for a reason, I trust our staff and coach.
 
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