To Mccain supporters

#26
#26
T-TownVol said:
DAVOL,
I assume from your signature, that you are Jewish. If true, that alone should cause a vote for McCain from you sir. Unless the promised land of your people does not matter to you. (yea, I am going there to try and bring some intellegence into your vote)
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Total uninformed BS
 
#28
#28
Headed For Home said:
That doesn't relieve you of your responsiblity as a US citzen to make your voting decision bassed upon what is best for the country instead of current pop culture.
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Exactly, which is the reason I am voting for Obama.

If you voted for W twice, you certainly didn't follow this mantra
 
#31
#31
truefan said:
And YOUR gloom and doom is ALL based on your opinion. You have no clue as to whether or not this man will be successful. What you think you know to be true, might not be, BPV. There is simply no indication he is going to fail as you suggest. You are a conservative republican and he stands for everything you hate. That is the premise of your beliefs and that only. If the truth were to be told, you were probably against him long before you knew his stances on healthcare, energy and homeland security. I will be the first one to say you are an intelligent man, but that doesn't mean for one second your predictions on his failure have any merit. Whether anyone likes hearing it or not, taxes will HAVE to be raised to get this government back on track. AND a cut in spending. Obama will do both
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Both candidates will raise taxes - no question there.

The question is which candidate will start to close the full blast water hose of spending the current admin is running? I thought it was McCain, but his revelations this week on the mortgage crisis make me think it may not be.
 
#34
#34
truefan said:
And YOUR gloom and doom is ALL based on your opinion. You have no clue as to whether or not this man will be successful. What you think you know to be true, might not be, BPV. There is simply no indication he is going to fail as you suggest. You are a conservative republican and he stands for everything you hate. That is the premise of your beliefs and that only. If the truth were to be told, you were probably against him long before you knew his stances on healthcare, energy and homeland security. I will be the first one to say you are an intelligent man, but that doesn't mean for one second your predictions on his failure have any merit. Whether anyone likes hearing it or not, taxes will HAVE to be raised to get this government back on track. AND a cut in spending. Obama will do both
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Are paying any attention to your own rant? Obama does stand for the things that conservatives hate. That is a perfectly rational reason not to like or support a candidate. His success in his personal goals spells doom for the America we love.

Secondly, did you listen to the debate? or Obama's various stump speeches? He has consistantly proposed massive programs especially in the area of health care without any way to pay for them. He also is going to magically decrease taxes? Both these items are from his own mouth and are directly opposite of the reasons you say you support him.
 
#35
#35
Truth is BPV is that if McCAIN was up like O'bama is and I supported McCain and made this thread towards O'bama supporters you would have loved it and that is fact.:rock:
 
#36
#36
SavageOrangeJug said:
Prove it.
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I am not the one making the outlandish claim. What he is saying is that if Obama gets elected, Israel is in trouble. There's simply no evidence of it. Obama's foreign policy stances do not suggest less support for Israel.

Just another republican scare tactic.
 
#37
#37
if you believe there is ANY chance obama will cut spending you are truly delusional and beyond help. have you actually read what the man is proposing?
 
#38
#38
T-TownVol said:
Please tell me that you do not believe that BHO will defend Israel against the people that seek to destroy it, as well as McCain will. That sir is uninformed.
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No it isn't lok at Obama's past and who his friends were and who made the connections for him to get into the best schools and who has mentored him. He isn't going to somehow turn his back on all those people. He isn't going to back Israel over the Muslim radicals.
 
#39
#39
Headed For Home said:
No it isn't lok at Obama's past and who his friends were and who made the connections for him to get into the best schools and who has mentored him. He isn't going to somehow turn his back on all those people. He isn't going to back Israel over the Muslim radicals.
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Oh Good Lord. Get real. I guess McCain is going to support deadbeat dads too since he walked out on a family? Sheesh.
 
#40
#40
truefan said:
And YOUR gloom and doom is ALL based on your opinion. You have no clue as to whether or not this man will be successful.

I have a precedent. Carter came to power in almost similar circumstance with a dem congress to help him destroy things. Fortunately, it was only 3 years. What you think you know to be true, might not be, BPV. There is simply no indication he is going to fail as you suggest.

None of us knows the future. That being the case, you also have no reason whatsoever to believe he'll succeed. In fact, you have so little information upon which to make a decision, that you are simply voting from igorance. All you have is talk, just like me.

You are a conservative republican and he stands for everything you hate. That is the premise of your beliefs and that only. If the truth were to be told, you were probably against him long before you knew his stances on healthcare, energy and homeland security.

I am a fiscal conservative and military hawk. Aside from that, I generally don't care. He fails on both fronts for me. Guess all you'd like about the man, but anyone touting UHC as a solution is more interested in votes than fiscal responsibility.

I will be the first one to say you are an intelligent man, but that doesn't mean for one second your predictions on his failure have any merit.

Smart has nothing to do with this. It's about the qualifications and agendas of the candidates. Obama has no qualifications or relevant leadership experience and his policies are simply socialism with some pacifism mixed in.

Whether anyone likes hearing it or not, taxes will HAVE to be raised to get this government back on track. AND a cut in spending. Obama will do both
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See bold.

The spending cut is an absolute lie. He isn't doing that and supporting his programs. He's trying to pretend that coming home from Iraq will provide him the cash he needs, but that won't come close to funding UHC and the entitlements he's spouting. He'll further try to cut military spending, which we can ill afford, to pay for more entitlements, but now is the worst time I can fathom to try and cut military spending.

Financially, he's as lost as a blind wombat, but he has complete support of those saying raising taxes will improve government receipts. Raising it on the top 5% will raise them for a couple years, but is a long term disaster for GDP. The cap gains lick that is coming is far more insidious than anyone on his team wants to recognize. Any deterrent to investment at this juncture is simply suicide.

I don't have to be right about very many of these issues for Obama to be a disaster. I have a very good chance to be right about at least half of them.
 
#42
#42
truefan said:
I am not the one making the outlandish claim. What he is saying is that if Obama gets elected, Israel is in trouble. There's simply no evidence of it. Obama's foreign policy stances do not suggest less support for Israel.

Just another republican scare tactic.
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Israel sayes that Israel is in trouble if BHO is elected. The country could be destroyed before BHO gets his meeting set up to talk to Iran about the situation.
There are many foreign policy experts that believe Israel will be forced to strike first between Nov and Jan if BHO is elected. Because they know that they will not have a strong POTUS in office. These are the facts.
 
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#43
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DAVOL said:
Truth is BPV is that if McCAIN was up like O'bama is and I supported McCain and made this thread towards O'bama supporters you would have loved it and that is fact.:rock:
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No I wouldn't and that is the true fact.

I am starting to notice a trend about what Lefties are willing to try and pass off as fact.
 
#44
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UT IE 95 said:
Oh Good Lord. Get real. I guess McCain is going to support deadbeat dads too since he walked out on a family? Sheesh.
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Who on this board has said they were excited about McCain? In every discussion the point has been made that both choices are below par. Obama, however, isn't just below par, he is a signicant step toward losing the freedoms that we have enjoyed to this point.

Mark this down, If Obama is elected and the Dems continue to hold a majority in the House and Senate, the right to bear arms and freedom of religion are both in grave danger. Don't even think that the economy will resemble the one we have been used to.
 
#46
#46
truefan said:
I am not the one making the outlandish claim. What he is saying is that if Obama gets elected, Israel is in trouble. There's simply no evidence of it. Obama's foreign policy stances do not suggest less support for Israel.

Just another republican scare tactic.
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Then why would Hamas express support for Obama?
 
#47
#47
Headed For Home said:
No it isn't lok at Obama's past and who his friends were and who made the connections for him to get into the best schools and who has mentored him. He isn't going to somehow turn his back on all those people. He isn't going to back Israel over the Muslim radicals.
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Unbelievable and not a shred of truth or fact to your prediction
 
#49
#49
if you don't think all of those "community support" groups in chicago aren't going to see a major increase in federal funding you are out of your mind.
 
#50
#50
SavageOrangeJug said:
Then why would Hamas express support for Obama?
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I don't know. I am an educated man but can't honestly answer you. Maybe they THINK he might be more supportive, listen or give them a "seat at the table", but there is no way he is going to support them over Israel. Pure garbage
 
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