To Protect and to Serve II

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ok. So?

Just more police tyranny. What next? Mobile COVID testing?

 

[85SugarVol]

Police are now taking roadside blood samples to catch impaired drivers

Gross

 

[Rickyvol77]

Just more police tyranny. What next? Mobile COVID testing?

How is it tyranny? You agree to it when you get a drivers license.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

How is it tyranny? You agree to it when you get a drivers license.

Here you go with your damn laws and procedures again.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Here you go with your damn laws and procedures again.

Boo hoo

 

[85SugarVol]

And in the 0.01% where law enforcement is wrong, what should happen?

@Rickyvol77

You gonna answer this?

 

[Rickyvol77]

@Rickyvol77

You gonna answer this?

Ive answered it. If someone believes law enforcement violated their civil rights then sue

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ive answered it. If someone believes law enforcement violated their civil rights then sue

And again, you are willing to place that financial burden on the taxpayers?

What accountability and consequences are set aside for the police?

 

[Rickyvol77]

And again, you are willing to place that financial burden on the taxpayers?

What accountability and consequences are set aside for the police?

The same as for anyone else. You can sue them if you believe they violated civil rights outside of the law.

 

[85SugarVol]

Ive answered it. If someone believes law enforcement violated their civil rights then sue

And the officers? What’s their part?

 

[Rickyvol77]

And the officers? What’s their part?

They would be sued and fired if there really were civil rights violations.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

The same as for anyone else. You can sue them if you believe they violated civil rights outside of the law.

It takes a person with power or authority to violate someone's civil rights. Your average street goon can't deprive you of your Constitutional rights. All they can do is rob you or whip your azz

 

[Rickyvol77]

It takes a person with power or authority to violate someone's civil rights. Your average street goon can't deprive you of your Constitutional rights. All they can do is rob you or whip your azz

Don’t drink and use drugs and drive. You have nothing to worry about

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Don’t drink and use drugs and drive. You have nothing to worry about

Again, Allen West's wife...

 

[85SugarVol]

They would be sued and fired if there really were civil rights violations.

If they illegally seize someone’s blood they should be happy to just get fired.

But that’s not what I’m asking.

They followed the rules, they seized the blood, and whoops. Mistake. He was clean the whole time. This is your 1 in 10,000 you alluded to.

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Here you go with your damn laws and procedures again.

Ras you make an contract with the state when you take their license that subjects you to all the civil obligations and yes, the right to be stopped anytime they have pc.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ras you make an contract with the state when you take their license that subjects you to all the civil obligations and yes, the right to be stopped anytime they have pc.

Here is the problem, for lack of a better term, we are seeing mission creep. We're seeing more and more gradual intrusion into how they conduct their business. Blood drawing is a step too far and it is going in the wrong direction. So now, that opens the door for even more intrusive measures in the name of safety. And we have already seen how far they are willing to go in the name of safety with regards to COVID.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Ras you make an contract with the state when you take their license that subjects you to all the civil obligations and yes, the right to be stopped anytime they have pc.

Also, just because something is "legal", that doesn't mean that it is right or just.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Again, Allen West's wife...

That one stop out of thousands.

 

[Rickyvol77]

If they illegally seize someone’s blood they should be happy to just get fired.

But that’s not what I’m asking.

They followed the rules, they seized the blood, and whoops. Mistake. He was clean the whole time. This is your 1 in 10,000 you alluded to.

Then they could be sued. Again

 

[Rickyvol77]

Here is the problem, for lack of a better term, we are seeing mission creep. We're seeing more and more gradual intrusion into how they conduct their business. Blood drawing is a step too far and it is going in the wrong direction. So now, that opens the door for even more intrusive measures in the name of safety. And we have already seen how far they are willing to go in the name of safety with regards to COVID.

Jesus again with forced Covid vaccine conspiracy

 

[Rickyvol77]

Also, just because something is "legal", that doesn't mean that it is right or just.

Then don’t sign the contract when you get a license

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Then don’t sign the contract when you get a license

You need a car to make a living... and the state knows this. That's why the feel compelled to creep further and further and get more intrusive.

This is a step in the wrong direction.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You need a car to make a living... and the state knows this. That's why the feel compelled to creep further and further and get more intrusive.

This is a step in the wrong direction.

It’s really not at all. You have no constitutional right to drive a car on public roads

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

It’s really not at all. You have no constitutional right to drive a car on public roads

That is correct. But even with that said, that should not be a reason for the state to have the ability to do whatever they want on the road to citizens.

Again, just because something is made legal, that doesn't make it right or just. Cops can take cash and take blood from you on the side of the road... what is the next step?