Tobias Harris

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People who make a living making decisions about who is worth what disagree with you. Tobias is a star. HE is a tall, physical wing that can shoot. Pay the man his money. 20pts, 7.8 rebounds and 2.8 assists with damn near 40% from 3 this year, with solid D on many positions. Baller.
 
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Will be targeting him in October for at least one or two of my fantasy basketball leagues. I doubt he will last past the 5th round of any league I draft in.
 
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vols 30 said:
Sixers starting lineup: Ben Simmons, Josh Richardson, Tobias Harris, Al Horford and Joel Embiid.
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That's scary but they really lack shooting. They better win in the next 2-3 years since the Horford and Harris deals will look bad in that time.
 
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TNBV said:
People who make a living making decisions about who is worth what disagree with you. Tobias is a star. HE is a tall, physical wing that can shoot. Pay the man his money. 20pts, 7.8 rebounds and 2.8 assists with damn near 40% from 3 this year, with solid D on many positions. Baller.
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I'm happy for Harris. However, Tabram is right. There is a reason Harris is being traded all the time rather than being paid (same thoughts were mentoned on THE JUMP).
 
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Vols All Day said:
I'm happy for Harris. However, Tabram is right. There is a reason Harris is being traded all the time rather than being paid (same thoughts were mentoned on THE JUMP).
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Harris has been traded a lot because he's been a very good (not great) player who has outperformed his contract throughout his career....
 
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Vols All Day said:
I'm happy for Harris. However, Tabram is right. There is a reason Harris is being traded all the time rather than being paid (same thoughts were mentoned on THE JUMP).
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Right about what? 180 million over 5 years is too much for him? Compared to what? 5 years 225 million that GSW could have offered Durant? IT seems your are suggesting teams were looking to get rid of Tobias by trade. I read it as better teams went after Tobias in trade to make their team better. He was the best player on the Clippers and he greatly improved Philadelphia. Look again at those numbers. He was the top scorer in multiple games for Philly when they have arguably 3 max contract players in Butler, Embid and Simmons. He is the prototypical modern NBA player, a tall wing who can shoot the three and play D, but with added physicality. I agree that it is a lot of money in general, but the 76ers franchise is worth 1.7 billion after being bought for 270million in 2011. They gross nearly 70 million a year after player salaries. Even though Simmons is a star, he can't shoot. Butler is gone and Embid is injury prone. JJ Reddick is gone as well. They needed Tobias and I think they are paying him what the market demands.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
That's scary but they really lack shooting. They better win in the next 2-3 years since the Horford and Harris deals will look bad in that time.
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Simmons is the only one that can't shoot. Richardson % will go up now that he's not the number one option. Harris is a lethal shooter. The fit doesn't seem to be great though.
 
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TNBV said:
People who make a living making decisions about who is worth what disagree with you. Tobias is a star. HE is a tall, physical wing that can shoot. Pay the man his money. 20pts, 7.8 rebounds and 2.8 assists with damn near 40% from 3 this year, with solid D on many positions. Baller.
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Meanwhile there are doctors in Africa fighting Ebola and risking their lives for hardly any money but yeah 20 points and 7.8 rebounds is worth 180 million.

These contracts are being paid by your cable tv subscription so when your cable bill is 200 a month understand why.
 
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Talk about insane. Nets are paying Durant 164 mil over 4 years, knowing he will only play 3 and after a torn achilles. That is effectively 54+ million a year.
 
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NEOCON said:
Meanwhile there are doctors in Africa fighting Ebola and risking their lives for hardly any money but yeah 20 points and 7.8 rebounds is worth 180 million.

These contracts are being paid by your cable tv subscription so when your cable bill is 200 a month understand why.
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What the hell do doctors in Africa have to do with it? Against free market are you neocon? And they are being paid by my cable tv subscription because the cable company feels they will get value from it. See how that works. The players only make that kind of money because the owners make even more, and those owners have decided that it is worth it to pay them.
 
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TNBV said:
What the hell do doctors in Africa have to do with it? Against free market are you neocon? And they are being paid by my cable tv subscription because the cable company feels they will get value from it. See how that works. The players only make that kind of money because the owners make even more, and those owners have decided that it is worth it to pay them.
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Doctors in Africa have something to do with it because no one dribbling a basketball is worth 180 million. The value is artificially created because the stadiums are paid by tax payers and the contracts are paid by ppl with cable who don’t even want espn.

If it was true capitalism then the owners would pay for the stadiums and not leave cities with the tax burden and have way less profit.

The amount of debt cities and property owners take on via property tax supplements these guys salaries so if the stadium is in your county....suprise! It’s you the citizen paying the salaries.

Sorry buddy....I know facts are hard for ppl like you to handle.
 
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NEOCON said:
Doctors in Africa have something to do with it because no one dribbling a basketball is worth 180 million. The value is artificially created because the stadiums are paid by tax payers and the contracts are paid by ppl with cable who don’t even want espn.

If it was true capitalism then the owners would pay for the stadiums and not leave cities with the tax burden and have way less profit.

The amount of debt cities and property owners take on via property tax supplements these guys salaries so if the stadium is in your county....suprise! It’s you the citizen paying the salaries.

Sorry buddy....I know facts are hard for ppl like you to handle.
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People like me? Why don't you slow your role a little. You don't know a damn thing about me. Sorry you hate to see him paid for his skill. I wonder what really bothers you about someone getting pain 180 mill to "dribble a basketball"? Hmmm. And are you suggesting if he wasn't getting that money that it would be going to the doctors in Africa? I am a doctor and I couldn't make that money in 20 lifetimes, but it isn't because he is taking that money away from me. I am sure the people of Philadelphia are honored at your concern for their tax dollars. But I believe their arena was mainly funded privately and cost less than 300 million and is the home to 4 pro teams, 2 major. If you don't think the city benefits from the revenue generated by that then what can anyone say to you. I think you issues are more deep seeded than tax dollars.
 
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NEOCON said:
Meanwhile there are doctors in Africa fighting Ebola and risking their lives for hardly any money but yeah 20 points and 7.8 rebounds is worth 180 million.

These contracts are being paid by your cable tv subscription so when your cable bill is 200 a month understand why.
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It already is which is why I cut the cord a few years ago.
 
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Pretty simple. Supply and demand in the entertainment industry. People are willing to pay to watch TV, advertisers are willing to spend their money on the platform, governments are willing to spend the citizen's funds to attract the teams. The consumers aren't willing to pay to send doctors to Africa. It's capitalism baby. Ain't hurting nobody excessively to participate in it.
 
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Will have earned $250Mil in his career after this contract is up, congrats to him.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Harris is just 26.... his contract will be fine
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I think the Horford contract will be an albatross. Richardson (assuming the Heat trade goes through) is underpaid and he will get a huge bump next contract. Either the 76ers will pay or have to let him go. Simmons will soon be off rookie deal and getting huge salary bump. Embiid at some point may be eligible for super max deal. Factoring in all that, $36MM a year for a non Top 20 NBA player in 3 years may be too much without a huge luxury tax bill....

Tobias is smart. He turned down $80mm from Clippers last year and def. took advantage of there being more teams willing to spend than high end players to spend on
 
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