Todd Golden discussion [split]

#76
#76
Are you being facetious? The school student paper interviewed a couple of the women. He was being a weirdo and sending pictures of his junk. Grooming is how one on the ladies characterized it. Y’all are winning and have creeper of a coach.

Todd Golden investigation: What to know about accusations against Florida coach as it advances to Final Four


There's nothing new here. All I know is that at least two women, who are unidentified, accused him of this, but so far none of the underlying communications has, as far as I know, ever been made public by the accusers. And I'm talking even just the texts with words where he is said to have been hitting on them.

I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying the report of the investigation is not, itself, proof that it did.
 
#77
#77
The school has personal motivation to not find any wrongdoing. I don't trust them. There could have also been Non-disclosure agreements signed between these women in return for a nice sum of money.

That wouldn't stop the paper from publishing whatever it had.
 
#78
#78
There's nothing new here. All I know is that at least two women, who are unidentified, accused him of this, but so far none of the underlying communications has, as far as I know, ever been made public by the accusers. And I'm talking even just the texts with words where he is said to have been hitting on them.

I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying the report of the investigation is not, itself, proof that it did.

Haha ok. Enjoy the winning.
 
#79
#79
There are alleged "mountains of proof." The Florida student newspaper is claiming to have received personal testimony and proof from witnesses. All becuase the public hasn't seen the proof doesn't mean it's not there.

Maybe ask why Todd Golden doesn't sue the student newspaper for reporting false claims. Maybe becuase he doesn't want that evidence being publically subpoenad in court.

You don’t know the history of that “Florida student newspaper.” They’re literally the Dollar General version of CNN. They were all in on Trump hoaxes, they go after Desantis with fake crap, they made up a bunch of false stuff about Ben Sasse and published it when he became Florida’s President. It’s a liberal, woke cesspool. And regarding Golden’s defamation claims, he has already said that comes after the season.

In the meantime, he’s a helluva coach and is currently a Final Four coach.
 
#80
#80
You don’t know the history of that “Florida student newspaper.” They’re literally the Dollar General version of CNN. They were all in on Trump hoaxes, they go after Desantis with fake crap, they made up a bunch of false stuff about Ben Sasse and published it when he became Florida’s President. It’s a liberal, woke cesspool. And regarding Golden’s defamation claims, he has already said that comes after the season.

In the meantime, he’s a helluva coach and is currently a Final Four coach.

Just skip this semantics and admit that even if all the accusations are true, you wouldn’t care.
 
#82
#82
You don’t know the history of that “Florida student newspaper.” They’re literally the Dollar General version of CNN. They were all in on Trump hoaxes, they go after Desantis with fake crap, they made up a bunch of false stuff about Ben Sasse and published it when he became Florida’s President. It’s a liberal, woke cesspool. And regarding Golden’s defamation claims, he has already said that comes after the season.

In the meantime, he’s a helluva coach and is currently a Final Four coach.
The content of this post makes you “bozo of the week” here at VN. Congratulations, the competition is stiffer than a Tad Golden text. He sent dick pics to students. He was cleared by a firm they paid to clear him. Enjoy your moment with predator Jerry Lewis.
 
#83
#83
You don’t know the history of that “Florida student newspaper.” They’re literally the Dollar General version of CNN. They were all in on Trump hoaxes, they go after Desantis with fake crap, they made up a bunch of false stuff about Ben Sasse and published it when he became Florida’s President. It’s a liberal, woke cesspool. And regarding Golden’s defamation claims, he has already said that comes after the season.

In the meantime, he’s a helluva coach and is currently a Final Four coach.
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#85
#85
The content of this post makes you “bozo of the week” here at VN. Congratulations, the competition is stiffer than a Tad Golden text. He sent dick pics to students. He was cleared by a firm they paid to clear him. Enjoy your moment with predator Jerry Lewis.

Show me your proof. You don’t have any, nobody does. If there were proof, he wouldn’t have won the SECt and wouldn’t be coaching in the Final Four next weekend.

But I appreciate your quest for “justice for all of Todd’s victims.” Your such a caring and committed Good Samaritan. 😂

If Todd coached for Stetson, you wouldn’t give half a **** about him or any false accusations against him.
 
#87
#87
Todd Golden has previously stated that he has NBA aspirations and wants to coach at that level at some point. So he’s probably got another 2-3 years at Florida, if that.

So when he leaves, Florida rival fans can go back to not giving even the slightest damn of what some wayward coed and woke, low rent student newspaper has to say about him.

But as it stands now, I can see where rivals would jump on anything negative about him, exaggerate it, and use it for fuel to hate.

If there was anything similar out there about Tony Vitello, TN rival fans would be all over it, whether true or not. That dude is the best thing going today, maybe in any sport. So I get it.
 
#88
#88
Screenshots would not have much value once they are released. Until then they are a negotiating point…if they exist. At this point, it doesn’t seem that we can say anything with certainty except that he does not seem to be guilty of a Title 9 violation.

Careful with comments like this. You’ll be accused of sympathizing with a sex offender!
 
#89
#89
I believe Golden was only cleared of Title 9 violations and that's all the University investigated. UF determined that Golden didn't sexually harass anyone as part of a school program or activity. Not that he didn't do it at all. There's nothing illegal about hitting on 18-20-year-old girls, sending the d-pics without them being asked for is potentially criminal as is the alleged stalking. It's behavior that would get most 40ish-year-old coaches fired immediately. It was noted by a lawyer in the case that there was "certainly evidence questionable activity occurred." The university also refused to release the actual evidence and even the complaint. I'd be surprised if the newspaper didn't at minimum see the messages from Golden. We'll see if there's ever a lawsuit towards him. He claimed he was going to sue for defamation but that never materialized, as then all the evidence would hit the table one way or another.

This is good review of it. I do think it’s likely he waits for defamation suits after the season is over if they happen at all.
 
#90
#90
Show me your proof. You don’t have any, nobody does. If there were proof, he wouldn’t have won the SECt and wouldn’t be coaching in the Final Four next weekend.

But I appreciate your quest for “justice for all of Todd’s victims.” Your such a caring and committed Good Samaritan. 😂

If Todd coached for Stetson, you wouldn’t give half a **** about him or any false accusations against him.
No one refuted the fact that he sent dick pics to students. The (UF funded) investigation refuted whether he committed “harassment” under the title nine definition. As a moron who doesn’t know the facts yourself, you should avoid talking. To be clear, I’d be deeply bothered by an adult sending genital pics at a local school, community college or church while also being charged with setting an example for how men should behave. He’s trash. I wish you jorts stretchy enough to hold all the poop you expel. I have respect for your players. They’ve played a great season. The man who leads them is a creep.
 
#91
#91
The content of this post makes you “bozo of the week” here at VN. Congratulations, the competition is stiffer than a Tad Golden text. He sent dick pics to students. He was cleared by a firm they paid to clear him. Enjoy your moment with predator Jerry Lewis.

All I’m asking for is this very evident and substantial amount of proof to be linked or posted.

I have no problem with hating Golden before all this stuff, but everyone keeps saying there is lots of proof on here yet when I ask for a link or to post it, they go silent. I’m legitimately asking as I’ve seen nothing more than the school paper, who has no incentive to sweep this under the rug, reporting the testimony.

So can you please link this proof that I’m apparently incapable of finding, yet everyone else has access to?
 
#92
#92
All I’m asking for is this very evident and substantial amount of proof to be linked or posted.

I have no problem with hating Golden before all this stuff, but everyone keeps saying there is lots of proof on here yet when I ask for a link or to post it, they go silent. I’m legitimately asking as I’ve seen nothing more than the school paper, who has no incentive to sweep this under the rug, reporting the testimony.

So can you please link this proof that I’m apparently incapable of finding, yet everyone else has access to?

You keep asking for proof. Haha what did the women gain from making the title IV complaint? Were they just scorned lovers?
 
#93
#93
You keep asking for proof. Haha what did the women gain from making the title IV complaint? Were they just scorned lovers?

Did we just not live thru a 3-5 year time period where a large contingent of false allegations and scandals were made country wide? Hell didn't Tennessee just a few short years ago have a player get drug thru hell and his career sidelined because of false rape accusations only to be acquitted? I'm not saying the women claiming this happened are liars or attention seeking. I'm literally looking at this objectively and not allowing fandom to determine whether I think someone is guilty or not. Others can't say the same without injecting a one liner or insults or namecalling.

I'm not saying this didn't happen. I'm not saying it did happen. I'm literally taking it right now based on what has been reported by an impartial outlet, being the school newspaper. Would the AD/University have an incentive to make this go away if it did happen? Hell Yes they would. Would the school newspaper? Not so much because if true, this would be a pretty big breaking story for a group of college kids to make.

But I go back to my original point. I have seen countless people now say there is "So much proof" or that this is an open and closed case on how it did happen. Yet when I simply ask for links to the overwhelming amount of evidence, everyone goes silent or deflects..... Why are people saying the testimony alone of 2 anonymous women should be gospel while the same people saying there is substantial amounts of evidence this happened don't actually have to produce the goods they say they have?
 
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#94
Did we just not live thru a 3-5 year time period where a large contingent of false allegations and scandals were made country wide? Hell didn't Tennessee just a few short years ago have a player get drug thru hell and his career sidelined because of false rape accusations only to be acquitted? I'm not saying the women claiming this happened are liars or attention seeking. I'm literally looking at this objectively and not allowing fandom to determine whether I think someone is guilty or not. Others can't say the same without injecting a one liner or insults or namecalling.

I'm not saying this didn't happen. I'm not saying it did happen. I'm literally taking it right now based on what has been reported by an impartial outlet, being the school newspaper. Would the AD/University have an incentive to make this go away if it did happen? Hell Yes they would. Would the school newspaper? Not so much because if true, this would be a pretty big breaking story for a group of college kids to make.

But I go back to my original point. I have seen countless people now say there is "So much proof" or that this is an open and closed case on how it did happen. Yet when I simply ask for links to the overwhelming amount of evidence, everyone goes silent or deflects..... Why are people saying the testimony alone of 2 anonymous women should be gospel while the same people saying there is substantial amounts of evidence this happened don't actually have to produce the goods they say they have?

It has nothing to do with my fandom. I hope you get your “proof” though haha. I would also think if the girls made it up that would have already came out or leaked by the university but I hope he sues them.
 
#95
#95
It has nothing to do with my fandom. I hope you get your “proof” though haha. I would also think if the girls made it up that would have already came out or leaked by the university but I hope he sues them.
I find it hard as a tenn fan to believe anything until it all plays out, ie AJ Johnson.
 
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#96
#96
It has nothing to do with my fandom. I hope you get your “proof” though haha. I would also think if the girls made it up that would have already came out or leaked by the university but I hope he sues them.

Bingo. I don’t know about many here but I think if someone says there is substantial amounts of proof that something did happen, it should have a nuclear reaction to hold them to their words. Just as these women should be and just as Golden should be.

I just find it funny that all these message board posters are claiming mountains of evidence yet are hoarding it all since the only reports of the allegations feature testimony and zero reports of messages / screenshots of what the allegations are.
 
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All I’m asking for is this very evident and substantial amount of proof to be linked or posted.

I have no problem with hating Golden before all this stuff, but everyone keeps saying there is lots of proof on here yet when I ask for a link or to post it, they go silent. I’m legitimately asking as I’ve seen nothing more than the school paper, who has no incentive to sweep this under the rug, reporting the testimony.

So can you please link this proof that I’m apparently incapable of finding, yet everyone else has access to?
The Title Nine violation report is discoverable on the internet. You can read the specific charges, which include taking photos of coeds and sending them to them, and sending unsolicited/unwanted pictures of his genitals. The charge burden includes stalking and harassment under the statute. The substantial photographic evidence is referenced in several articles. The (alleged) victim count is over ten, and they are not related to one another and took place over more than a year. It’s hard to find ten unrelated young women who report identical behavior over a year. If you think he wouldn’t sue all of them for defamation if it were made up, you’re missing something big. Neither he nor his attorney ever refuted existence of photos he took of female students and sent to them, nor pics of his junk that he allegedly sent to them. The investigation was funded by UF. It proved one thing: the actions did not rise to the level of stalking or harassment under the legal definition. I do not know whether that assumption is correct, but it was the conclusion of the paid firm. One of attorneys for the victims stated that the existence of photo evidence was not disputed, only the evidence of stalking or harassment. You can find all of that online. If he were to countersue for damages , the evidence would enter public record. He won’t. As for whether the women will pursue individual civil litigation, one or more of them need to be willing to face the public scrutiny of shirtless, acid-washed inhabitants of a primitive rabid banana republic. I hope one or more of them goes public, but the incentives are nonexistent and the risk of harm to them and their reputations is high.
 
#98
#98
The Title Nine violation report is discoverable on the internet. You can read the specific charges, which include taking photos of coeds and sending them to them, and sending unsolicited/unwanted pictures of his genitals. The charge burden includes stalking and harassment under the statute. The substantial photographic evidence is referenced in several articles. The (alleged) victim count is over ten, and they are not related to one another and took place over more than a year. It’s hard to find ten unrelated young women who report identical behavior over a year. If you think he wouldn’t sue all of them for defamation if it were made up, you’re missing something big. Neither he nor his attorney ever refuted existence of photos he took of female students and sent to them, nor pics of his junk that he allegedly sent to them. The investigation was funded by UF. It proved one thing: the actions did not rise to the level of stalking or harassment under the legal definition. I do not know whether that assumption is correct, but it was the conclusion of the paid firm. One of attorneys for the victims stated that the existence of photo evidence was not disputed, only the evidence of stalking or harassment. You can find all of that online. If he were to countersue for damages , the evidence would enter public record. He won’t. As for whether the women will pursue individual civil litigation, one or more of them need to be willing to face the public scrutiny of shirtless, acid-washed inhabitants of a primitive rabid banana republic. I hope one or more of them goes public, but the incentives are nonexistent and the risk of harm to them and their reputations is high.

Thank you.
 
#99
#99
The Title Nine violation report is discoverable on the internet. You can read the specific charges, which include taking photos of coeds and sending them to them, and sending unsolicited/unwanted pictures of his genitals. The charge burden includes stalking and harassment under the statute. The substantial photographic evidence is referenced in several articles. The (alleged) victim count is over ten, and they are not related to one another and took place over more than a year. It’s hard to find ten unrelated young women who report identical behavior over a year. If you think he wouldn’t sue all of them for defamation if it were made up, you’re missing something big. Neither he nor his attorney ever refuted existence of photos he took of female students and sent to them, nor pics of his junk that he allegedly sent to them. The investigation was funded by UF. It proved one thing: the actions did not rise to the level of stalking or harassment under the legal definition. I do not know whether that assumption is correct, but it was the conclusion of the paid firm. One of attorneys for the victims stated that the existence of photo evidence was not disputed, only the evidence of stalking or harassment. You can find all of that online. If he were to countersue for damages , the evidence would enter public record. He won’t. As for whether the women will pursue individual civil litigation, one or more of them need to be willing to face the public scrutiny of shirtless, acid-washed inhabitants of a primitive rabid banana republic. I hope one or more of them goes public, but the incentives are nonexistent and the risk of harm to them and their reputations is high.

EXACTLY WHAT I SAID lol
 
No one refuted the fact that he sent dick pics to students. The (UF funded) investigation refuted whether he committed “harassment” under the title nine definition. As a moron who doesn’t know the facts yourself, you should avoid talking. To be clear, I’d be deeply bothered by an adult sending genital pics at a local school, community college or church while also being charged with setting an example for how men should behave. He’s trash. I wish you jorts stretchy enough to hold all the poop you expel. I have respect for your players. They’ve played a great season. The man who leads them is a creep.

You have absolutely no idea what he did or did not send. You’re not an investigator, judge, juror or anything else. You’re a dude who hates Florida athletics.

And when Todd Golden is gone from Florida, your righteous indignation, sanctimony, and fake victim advocacy goes with him.
 

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