Todd Kelly Jr. had surgery.

#27
#27
Not sure what he means to a football player but for a baseball player, Tommy John surgery would be preferable to labrum surgery.
 
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Backwards K said:
Not sure what he means to a football player but for a baseball player, Tommy John surgery would be preferable to labrum surgery.
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As for probability of return to pre-injury form, yes, TJ would be preferable to anything shoulder-related for a baseball player. As for length of time out, TJ takes significantly longer to return (11-15 months).

I came back from my shoulder reconstruction and my shoulder felt great. I never quite made it back from TJ surgery.

As long as he is not a QB or possibly a lineman, I don't see labrum surgery as anything more than a minor procedure for a football player. Build up the strength in the surrounding muscles and he should be good - no need for full range of motion or the ability to throw at full strength.
 
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E-T, thanks for the first hand account. Dang, you sure had your share of problems with a labrum and TJ surgery. Probably would have been easier for you to just learn to throw with the other arm!!
 
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Backwards K said:
E-T, thanks for the first hand account. Dang, you sure had your share of problems with a labrum and TJ surgery. Probably would have been easier for you to just learn to throw with the other arm!!
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No prob - happy to share. It wouldn't have been as big an issue if I had TJ when I first tore it years prior (significant partial tear was misdiagnosed as sprain when 14) - but after the shoulder reconstruction the UCL couldn't support the extra load the shoulder had been bearing for the previous 8 years, so it finally ruptured.

As a matter of fact, I actually bought a glove for my right hand and attempted to learn to throw left-handed after TJ. Needless to say, as soon as I was allowed to play catch again right-handed, I put it away, haha.

Based on what I went through, I honestly think - barring setbacks - even with labrum repair, TKjr should have plenty of time to be ready for fall camp. Behind schedule, certainly, but not to the point of making the necessity of a redshirt absolute. Now if it was bad enough to require an open entry (as opposed to only arthroscopic entries), I would certainly have a different opinion on a realistic timetable.
 
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I had rotater-cuff surgery on my right shoulder. It took 9 months with some therapy (while working 50+ office type, hours a week) to get back. Perhaps he can heal faster and I'm not sure his surgery is a dramatic as rotater-cuff. Wish him well.
 
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E-Tizzle said:
Yes, that is correct.



Difficult? No. But if he had the procedure, he would almost certainly be out for the remainder of spring ball and limited through the summer.

The surgery is more significant for throwers (typically baseball players, but also QBs) in terms of how long the recovery process lasts; but there will still be a period of time in which the procedure would force a player out of contact due to risk of re-injury.

But back to your point, labrum (especially if not involving the rotator cuff) surgery is not especially difficult or worrisome for a football player of his age.
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He doesn't enroll until this summer.
 
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supersmo18 said:
Not necessarily true. It can be. The rehab process just takes time to allow the repaired structures to heal properly, and you have to deal with restrictions in range of motion for some time, as well as with restrictions in strengthening.

He should recover well based on his pre-injury strength/stability of his shoulder, but, it could be worse depending on how bad the tear was. SLAP lesions (which is what I'm assuming he had because of the commonality of them) can take significant time to return from. If he comes back this year, I don't think he'd be cleared for full-go until at least mid-season, so I'd expect a medical red shirt for him just because of his talent level. He's too good to waste a half a season on the bench. JMO.
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As with every recruit coming in this year, we do not know yet if he will be better, the same, or worse than what we had last year. Time will tell. We need DBs that do not think making the tackle after a catch is a good thing and celebrate it like they just made a QB sack. PREVENT the pass from being completed, that should be the goal.
 
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Just to chime in: I've had both of my labrums in my shoulders repaired. Both were due to football injuries. They were not SLAP tears, but posterior labral tears. Both occurred from extending my arms out to block, and the defender crashing into my arms, causing my shoulder to partially sublux posteriorly. I tore my first one my soph. year of high school and my second one my junior year of high school. I played both seasons with each of them torn (obviously this depends on several factors). There can be a lot of variance from individual to individual, but my recovery time consisted of 5-6 weeks in an awful brace, and a total of about 4 months of rehab until I was cleared for full activity. Both shoulders healed well and are just as strong, if not stronger than they would have been without tears. I've lifted very heavy weights since both repairs and still do today. I also went on to play ball in college (not SEC level, but a pretty high level).

Obviously, everyone has a unique body and experience, but thats just 2 cents on how my experience went. The process sucked, but it all ended well.
 
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There goes the National Championship, and the Heisman for TK Jr. out the window for this year.
 
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I'm hearing that he was on crutches. If that's the case, and it is labrum-related, then he had an acetabular repair - meaning his hip labrum (not his shoulder labrum) was repaired. This is only speculation on my part, and I will see what I can find out.
 
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E-Tizzle said:
I have to disagree with you on both bolded counts. For a thrower, the timetable to come back from a labral or SLAP tear is usually 6-9 months. I got a full release to play (baseball) games 8 months after full shoulder reconstruction (significant SLAP tears, torn rotator cuff, and a torn and displaced biceps tendon) - and that included being set back significantly by PEs in my lungs.

For a non-thrower, I would think the timetable is closer to 5-6 with certain limitations/restrictions and/or protective brace/sleeve.

As for being the worst to recover from, rotator cuff is much worse - definitely from the thrower's perspective, and I would think also from a non-thrower's perspective.
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You're not disagreeing too much... 6-9 months conservatively, 4-6 months if they heal quickly and the tear isn't too bad and the rehab goes well....

However, I just don't think you can count on under 6 months.... If it's lingers into the fall then he could miss fall camp contact, this really limiting him right away...

He may get cleared right before fall camp but he'll be very tentative IMO.... It would be interesting to see what happens...

The worst post surgical patients I've seen were labrum repairs... I've treated thousands of post op patients in Physical Therapy, and I've seen some brutal rotator cuff repairs too.... A bad labral repair is more involved than a bad RTC repair from a rehab standpoint, but many factors can weigh into it.....

If he indeed has this injury/ surgery, and he makes fall camp with full contact, then great job by him, the Dr., and the trainers..... Of course we all want him to heal in 4 months or less!
 
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It's not the end of the world. He will be ready by fall. The position he plays he can still practice without contact and learn the zones and reads. It will take him 2 to 3 months to learn it anyway. Plus if they have him at CB he will only be in about 20% of the plays that would really require contact. Book it he will be ready by the first game.. I have gone threw what he has. As long as he has his brace on he will be fine to practice by fall.
 
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