Tommy Gallion

[orangetd88]

Not trying to dig up old garbage (OldVol, you and I have had this conversation before), but the situation in 1992 quickened the pace on on something that, IMO, was eventually going to happen. I'm not saying DAD was in the right, nor am I saying he was in the wrong. From what I have heard and gathered from both sides of the story, Johnny's days were numbered at UT. Just IMO, however.

I too wish they would bury the hatchet. It seems like we talk about this every 6 months or so. It's gotten old.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by orangetd88@May 26, 2005 10:45 AM
Not trying to dig up old garbage (OldVol, you and I have had this conversation before), but the situation in 1992 quickened the pace on on something that, IMO, was eventually going to happen.  I'm not saying DAD was in the right, nor am I saying he was in the wrong.  From what I have heard and gathered from both sides of the story, Johnny's days were numbered at UT.  Just IMO, however.

I too wish they would bury the hatchet.  It seems like we talk about this every 6 months or so.  It's gotten old.

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The bottom line is; John was far more a Tennessee man than Dickey. At that point, Dickey should have been the one shown the door and John should have taken over as AD. That could have been done. The problem came when a well known East Tennessee banker, who just happened to sit on the board, and who just happened to have Dickey eating out of his hand, literally, demanded and got his way.

When powerful boosters meddle it always causes unmanagable problems.

 

[U-T]

Originally posted by Bama My Heart@May 26, 2005 8:27 AM
A lot of people are always accusing Bama of living in the past.  Well, how long do you think that this will follow us?

As long as you talk about the Bear

 

[KevB1990]

Being a member of the media...a sports writer...I know that you have to cater to your base. But you put you journalistic integrity is put into question with unsubstantiated remarks from a man with an ax to grind. And then calling it newsworthy is wayyyyyyyyy out of line.

If selling newspapers means digging up another person that supports a man with an ax to grind to corroborate someone else's rantings, who also has an ax to grind against the same person, then we've missed the boat entirely and we're now in no more than a supermarket tabloid.

But, I figure that's all our fine folks to the south of us know anyway...

In no way do I think that everything at Tennessee is completely on the up and up at all times. Everyone has their hand in the cookie jar at some point...the problem is, Bammer has been doing it for DECADES...and basically saying "We're Bama and it don't matter how we do things because we're the elite program in the conference...maybe even the country."

News flash Bammer: You ain't feared anymore by anyone...and your winning records against most every team you play are shrinking.

Get used to it...it's going to continue.

I say bring it on...Fulmer will be a rich man at Gallion's expense once he retires...

 

[surrealvol]

Originally posted by IBleedOrange24/7@May 26, 2005 3:24 AM
Raw deal?  I was a bit younger back then so i cannot remember most of the circumstances. This is in No way a post to knock Majors! Only asking what was so raw that, at his age and time that would make him
so angry at CPF? Sure no one like's to be dismissed!
But when change is needed for the better of the U' and the team, your not going to hear fan's/students complain.
Majors (.645) Fulmer (.802)+. Neverless Gallion isnt going to quit!

He's only trying to re- and re again, make gain for himself. If Bammers buy it then well good.  Maybe if he studied his profession more than he did hate on CPF he'd make a better living and name for his firm.

Eventualy we hope the NCAA will ban him from any more idiotic complaints and false allegations.

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As long as the Tommy Gallions of the world are alive in Alabama, it will only substantiate the term "BAMMER". As my dear dad used to say often, quoting the Bible, "If a man be ignorant, let him be ignorant"!!!!!!!

 

[surrealvol]

Originally posted by GAVol@May 26, 2005 9:22 AM
The delete button will get hit about right here.

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Good post, man! :rocks:

Wrong quote. I shall try again at this particular point in the time of the scheme of things and nuances of other defacto type things and whatever else would fit here to take away from the fact that I hit the wrong reply button...

 

[surrealvol]

Originally posted by Bama My Heart@May 26, 2005 9:27 AM
Believe me, Alabama has accepted our punishment, and most Bama fans just want to move on.  A lot of people are always accusing Bama of living in the past.  Well, how long do you think that this will follow us?
I wish this trial business would just go away, because it really concerns me with how it will effect Tenn. coming to town.  I'm sure there will talk of extra security and all that, and things just should not be like that.  It's football, we love it, and live for it, but it should not be life threatening.  With that said, does anyone think that Gallion is saying all of this stuff right now about having evidence so this could be settled out of court.  I can't imagine how much money this has cost(Bama has not paid any of this by the way....we're not in this hunt),and he has to recoop his money somehow.  He has been in it too long now to just back down, but he's not a young man, and does he seriously want to be remembered for this case.....sad.  I love Bama football, and support my team 100% no matter what, but I am realistic enough to know that people that don't truly love the sport have tried to  ruin it for a lot of people.  I have often said that "I hate Tennessee, or I hate Auburn", but I only meant that I want to beat them in football.  I don't hate the fans, coachs or the state.  Well, maybe with Auburn I do....not really.
We as fans and supporters of college football have got to get a grip and put things back to where they should be.  I believe that the sport should be played for the benefit of the players, fans and the schools, and not for the greed of some people.  I was so excited when I moved to Tuscaloosa, that I would get to enjoy all the tailgaiting and pregame activites not only with Bama fans, but fans from the other schools.  To me it's like hosting a big party, and the a host should not be rude to his guests...I believe that we as fans have a responsibility to put things back to how they should be....any hitting should happen on the field, and we should be gentlemen both on and off the field.  The players have such a better attitude than we do, and we should be more like them.

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Good post, man! :rocks:

 

[Bama My Heart]

Originally posted by U-T@May 26, 2005 10:57 AM
As long as you talk about the Bear

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I realize that a lot of fans especially older fans talk about Bear a lot. Can you blame us? You don't hear Southern football mentioned in the paper or on TV without his name being mentioned(and not by Bama fans)or the promos for SEC football without seeing his picture. I am proud that he was our coach. Not just for the job that he did on the field, but I also like to hear a lot of people in the community of Tuscaloosa, people not involved with the University, tell of the things that he did for them, and did not even want it known. He was not a perfect man by any means, and who of us is, but I feel that he was a good man, or he could have not earned the respect of so many young men that played for him. You can be afraid of someone, but that does not mean that you respect him. Few fans may talk of their coach like we do him, but how many had one like him, and for so long. I am sure that when they retire or die, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno will be talked about by their fans just as much as Bear. And they should be, because they have done a lot for their schools.
Didn't mean to go on and on, but I did want to explain why Coach Bryant meant so much to this one fan anyway.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by Bama My Heart@May 26, 2005 1:12 PM
I realize that a lot of fans especially older fans talk about Bear a lot.  Can you blame us?  You don't hear Southern football mentioned in the paper or on TV without his name being mentioned(and not by Bama fans)or the promos for SEC football without seeing his picture.  I am proud that he was our coach.  Not just for the job that he did on the field, but I also like to hear a lot of people in the community of Tuscaloosa, people not involved with the University, tell of the things that he did for them, and did not even want it known.  He was not a perfect man by any means, and who of us is, but I feel that he was a good man, or he could have not earned the respect of so many young men that played for him. You can be afraid of someone, but that does not mean that you respect him.  Few fans may talk of their coach like we do him, but how many had one like him, and for so long.  I am sure that when they retire or die, Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno will be talked about by their fans just as much as Bear.  And they should be, because they have done a lot for their schools.
Didn't mean to go on and on, but I did want to explain why Coach Bryant meant so much to this one fan anyway.

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There's nothing wrong with talking about the Bear. Just like there's nothing wrong with talking about The General.

I guess what most UT fans weary with is the sad tone most Bama fans have taken in the last few years. Any time Vols talk about the dominance of the past 10 years we're always reminded of how great Bear was. One does not really ralate to the other.

I've said before, it is sad when people talk more about the past than the future. It does seem that is where Bama football is at right now.

Just visit a Bama board.

The hottest threads, in order of importance to Bama fans on those boards are:

1. Hatred of Fulmer and UcheaT
2. The greatness of The Bear
3. Who has won the most SEC titles and NC titles.
4. (and a distant 4) What the Tide fans are anticipating in the coming year.

That's just really out of whack.

I am an old school fan. I liked the days when both schools, fans, and alumni showed great respect one for the other. It should be that way today.

My all time favorite #2 team is Bama. It is just a shame that the lunatic fringe has ruined all of the good feelings the schools once felt for each other.

 

[volmanjr]

Hey, we'll do the same for Fulmer (most of us anyway) and most of realize that the "Bear" was one helluva coach, if he had coached at UT we would be braggin about him now too. like i said there is no team i would rather beat and until all this gallion crap started there was no program I respected (other than ours) more. Hopefully all this will blow over someday and this great rivalry will take its place as one of the greatest of the game.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by volmanjr@May 26, 2005 1:47 PM
Hey, we'll do the same for Fulmer (most of us anyway)  and most of realize that the "Bear" was one helluva coach, if he had coached at UT we would be braggin about him now too. like i said there is no team i would rather beat and until all this gallion crap started there was no program I respected (other than ours) more. Hopefully all this will blow over someday and this great rivalry will take its place as one of the greatest of the game.

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I think it's important to point out that the University of Alabama has stayed clear of the Gallion mess. They've also distanced themselves from Logan Young. Mal Moore reportedly left the witness stand and shook hands with every one at the prosecutions table and never even looked at his old friend Logan.

The only ones making a big deal of this are the media and the lunatics in Crimson who refuse to accept that there were real improprieties in their program.

Most Bama fans have moved on and accepted their punishment. It's the loud, ignorant ones who get all the attention though.

 

[volmanjr]

"Most Bama fans have moved on and accepted their punishment. It's the loud, ignorant ones who get all the attention though."

agreed.... I am friends with several Bama fans and they never even bring the subject up, and if it does come up they as disgusted with the BS as we are

 

[orangetd88]

The university itself has stayed clear of Gallion, but a small majority of their fans have not. It's hard to separate the fanbase from the university itself. In alot of instances, the are one in the same. fortunately for the university, this is not one of those cases.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by orangetd88@May 26, 2005 2:16 PM
The university itself has stayed clear of Gallion, but a small majority of their fans have not.  It's hard to separate the fanbase from the university itself.  In alot of instances, the are one in the same.  fortunately for the university, this is not one of those cases.

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Me thinks you've got an oxymoron there. "A small majority," or did you mean, "A large minority."

I don't think a majority of the alumni are sympathetic to Gallion or LY.

I do think a majority of the side-walk alumni might be.

And I'm certain a majority of the internet wack jobs are.

 

[OldVol]

Originally posted by volmanjr@May 26, 2005 2:14 PM
"Most Bama fans have moved on and accepted their punishment. It's the loud, ignorant ones who get all the attention though."

agreed.... I am friends with several Bama fans and they never even bring the subject up, and if it does come up they as disgusted with the BS as we are

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Right on target there. My best friend (a loyal Bama alumn) lives in LA (lower Alabama) and he is as disgusted with all of the theatrics as I am.

 

[Vol67]

First thing Bama Fans need to do is muzzle the nutjob Gallion!

If 150,000 Bama fans turned on Gallion he would shut up and go away. All he is doing is making a laughing stock out of proud tradition Alabama.

 

[milohimself]

Oh, hey... Sorry if I don't feel like reading a threat titled "Tommy Gallion"

Just kidding.

Seriously, this just seems to be more of the same hissy fit crap.