Tony Stewart Smokes Goodyear Tires

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In an interview during Cup practice today Tony Stewart gave Goodyear a scathing review regarding the tires being used at Atlanta. He said the cold temps were hiding Goodyear's incompetence. He then went on to say "It's a shame the world's number one racing series has to be this way" And last said "that's what happens when they (Goodyear) pays to have an exclusive deal."

The reason I put this as a thread is it's unusual for a driver to dis Goodyear this strongly. It has always seemed to me there is an unwritten rule to cool it in your criticism of Goodyear. Even the announcers appear to follow this rule. It will be interesting to see what the reaction of NASCAR and Goodyear is.
 
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This is also not the first time he dissed Goodyear. I think he did pretty bad last year after a race too. I watched cup practice and qualifying yesterday and everyone said the tires are different than when they tested and it was terrible riding on them yesterday. Of course Tony just blasted them a little worse than the rest! LOL
 
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tony says something about goodyears tires every year. if he doesn't have something to cry about hes not happy.
 
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Just Tony being a lil baby about something else...very suprising
If a driver in NASCAR can't be allowed to voice an honest opinion on tires just because a said company has thrown a lot of money around, I don't know who should. He's not my fav driver but he's entitled to his opionion and just because you disagree does'nt automatically make it crying. Maybe the tires are crap maybe they arent. Seems anywhere you go nowadays product quality and quality of service isn't what it used to be, maybe he's right.
 
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If a driver in NASCAR can't be allowed to voice an honest opinion on tires just because a said company has thrown a lot of money around, I don't know who should. He's not my fav driver but he's entitled to his opionion and just because you disagree does'nt automatically make it crying. Maybe the tires are crap maybe they arent. Seems anywhere you go nowadays product quality and quality of service isn't what it used to be, maybe he's right.

I agree the drivers should be allowed to voice their opinions, particularly when safety is involved. Case in point Jeff Gordons hard hit at Vegas.

But most drivers do not criticize Goodyear strongly.
 
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But most drivers do not criticize Goodyear strongly.

But NASCAR is DYING to get back to the good ole boy days where drivers spoke freely. Tony will have no problem getting NASCAR back to those days.
 
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I miss the days when you'd see Hoosier, Goodyear, Michelin and Firestone tires all represented at a race.
 
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Thats what it is Goodyear has basically bought out any competition so they dont have to take product quality seriously. And should a vocal driver complain, the cry of ''just drive the car and quit your whining'' should be enough to quell any defect theories. All tire vendors should be at the races, all having to pass nascar qualifications, chosen by the teams.
 
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Stewart continues to sound off against Goodyear's tires
By Sporting News Wire Service
March 9, 2008
10:12 PM EST

-HAMPTON, Ga. -- Tony Stewart just couldn't let the second weekend in March go by without another tire tirade.

On the anniversary weekend of his bashing of tire supplier Goodyear last year in Las Vegas, Stewart lashed out on the compound Goodyear brought for Sunday's Kobalt Tools 500 at Atlanta Motor Speedway.

"We've got such a bad right-side tire, compared to what we tested here [in October]," Stewart said. "There isn't anybody, I don't think, who is happy with the tires we've got. After 10 years in the Cup Series, you learn to be highly disappointed with everything that Goodyear does ...

"I hate to say it, but the best thing that Goodyear does is to make that gold trophy at the end of the year (a special award for the Cup champion, which Stewart received in 2002 and 2005). That is the one thing that they always do right. Everything from that moment on until the end of the year -- it's a crapshoot."

Stewart isn't the only driver who would like to see a softer tire, one that would provide more adhesion to the racing surface.

"Today, as hard as these tires seem, I don't know if you'll be able to wear them out," Dale Earnhardt Jr. said Friday night, after qualifying second for Sunday's race. "They did fall off really fast, but we couldn't go out there and go real fast right out of the gate like we used to be able to do. But I don't think wear is going to be an issue. It's just that they slide so much I don't think you'll wear them out, they're so dang hard."

Justin Fantozzi, Goodyear's manager of race tire sales and marketing, said Saturday that the company was "completely satisfied" with the tire it brought to the track. He indicated that Goodyear was still collecting data from the right-front tire failures last week at Las Vegas that crippled the cars of Stewart, Kurt Busch and Robby Gordon.

"For 54 years we've been involved in NASCAR," Fantozzi said. "The process that we go about to make the tire recommendations is sound, and I have complete confidence in that process and the engineers that develop that process.

"As a supplier to the sport, as a partner in this working relationship on a day-to-day basis, the fact is, we'll develop."
 
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In an interview during Cup practice today Tony Stewart gave Goodyear a scathing review regarding the tires being used at Atlanta. He said the cold temps were hiding Goodyear's incompetence. He then went on to say "It's a shame the world's number one racing series has to be this way" And last said "that's what happens when they (Goodyear) pays to have an exclusive deal."

The reason I put this as a thread is it's unusual for a driver to dis Goodyear this strongly. It has always seemed to me there is an unwritten rule to cool it in your criticism of Goodyear. Even the announcers appear to follow this rule. It will be interesting to see what the reaction of NASCAR and Goodyear is.
I agree with Tony as far as quality goes (especially with my brother working for Bridgestone,lol). Goodyear should quit producing these crappy tires and quit endangering the lives of these drivers, coupled with the non-performing in other aspects.
 
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The Jury is still out on the tire issue with me. Until I hear more than Tony complain about them. Maybe there is something wrong with them, maybe there isn't. Different tracks take different tires. They don't run the same type of tires let's say for Bristol or Martinsville as they do in Daytona. I'm not talking about namebrand here. I'm talking about how they are made. How hard they are, how they wear and how they take on temperature. If Tony don't like the tires at a certain track and how they perform then he is voicing his opinion to get them to change them a little bit towards the way he likes them. It's not called whining or crying, it's called politics. He has every right to do it. Maybe some other Driver wants them another way, then he too, shall voice his opinion. This sport is all about getting an edge over your competition. If You aren't constantly searching for that edge, You shouldn't be racing. That is my opionion.
 
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All tire vendors should be at the races, all having to pass nascar qualifications, chosen by the teams.

Just for the record, I do think this is an excellent idea. This maybe would put some perspective on the tire issues, rather than going with one brand.

I also think that there might be comments toward all brands of tires if this happened. :)
 
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exactly, product quality would require funding rather than exclusivity contracts with Nascar.
 
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The Jury is still out on the tire issue with me. Until I hear more than Tony complain about them. Maybe there is something wrong with them, maybe there isn't. Different tracks take different tires. They don't run the same type of tires let's say for Bristol or Martinsville as they do in Daytona. I'm not talking about namebrand here. I'm talking about how they are made. How hard they are, how they wear and how they take on temperature. If Tony don't like the tires at a certain track and how they perform then he is voicing his opinion to get them to change them a little bit towards the way he likes them. It's not called whining or crying, it's called politics. He has every right to do it. Maybe some other Driver wants them another way, then he too, shall voice his opinion. This sport is all about getting an edge over your competition. If You aren't constantly searching for that edge, You shouldn't be racing. That is my opionion.

Dale Jr has made his comment, Jeff Gordon was more diplomatic, but said Goodyear overeacted to the wear issue by making tires too hard.
 
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WOW! The interview after the race Smoke really let Goodyear have it with both Barrels!"Hoosier,Firestone or anybody could do a better job"!Tony to the Hauler!
 
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This is the only thing that keeps me watching Nascar. People like Tony Stewart expressing their opinion, maybe Nascar will try to help a bit. Our stop throwing those BS cautions, it's there fault in the first place that the races are so boring
 
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This is the only thing that keeps me watching Nascar. People like Tony Stewart expressing their opinion, maybe Nascar will try to help a bit. Our stop throwing those BS cautions, it's there fault in the first place that the races are so boring

Interesting comment, NASCAR is usually under fire from the media for using questionable cautions to artificialy enhance the closeness of the race, thereby making for more exciting racing. I didn't see any debris cautons today that actual debris wasn't caught on camera. Maybe Fox is having the debris thrown on the track to try to keep the race closer!:whistling:
 
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I love to see racing. Whether that means getting a bunch of cars lapped or 40 cars on the lead lap. It just breaks the flow of the momentum through the race. Just my opinion on it
 
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I love to see racing. Whether that means getting a bunch of cars lapped or 40 cars on the lead lap. It just breaks the flow of the momentum through the race. Just my opinion on it

No arguement there, I hate when there are too many cautions, particularly when it splits up a lot of good cars by putting them a lap down. But your first post is in conflict with logic.
The definition of too many cautions is really one more than the number of bottles of beer I can go get during the breaks. Then they become unneeded and therefore serve only to stretch out the time of the race, making it that much longer before I can go get more beer.
 
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I love smoke. he doesn't care who he offends. where most ppl will be nicer so that they don't get fined, or w/e, smoke on the other hand doesn't care. he'll rip you. it makes my day. i enjoyed his rant yesterday. thats why he is one of my fav. drivers. but seriously it sounds like goodyear has sucked over the years
 
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Looks like others were unhappy with the tires, including Jr. I find Chad Knaus's comments interesting in this article. Anybody agree with Knaus or think it was the tires, or maybe a little of both?

Stewart, Earnhardt think bad of Goodyear's tires
Hope voicing displeasure leads to changes in compound
By Mark Aumann, NASCAR.COM

HAMPTON, Ga. -- The balancing act between safety concerns and competition that Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. faces each week was the post-race focus of several top finishers Sunday. It left both sides defensive and fans wondering what happened to the typical side-by-side racing for which Atlanta Motor Speedway is famous.

Tony Stewart, who finished second in the Kobalt Tools 500, and third-place finisher Dale Earnhardt Jr. were outspoken in their criticism for the tire compound brought to Atlanta. There were no tire failures reported during the race, but the two agreed that the harder tire made it almost impossible for drivers to run side-by-side. Only thirteen cars were on the lead lap at the finish.

"Goodyear doesn't like to hear people bashing them tires and I don't like doing it, but I ain't going to sit here and put up with this."
DALE EARNHARDT JR."That was the most pathetic racing tire that I've ever been on in my professional career," Stewart said. "... Goodyear can't build a tire that is worth a crap. If I were Goodyear, I would be really embarrassed about this weekend and what they brought here. It didn't keep us from winning the race and how we got to second."

Junior was more diplomatic in his criticism.

"I'll say that Goodyear Tire Company makes good racing tires, makes a safe tire," Junior said. "There's a lot of technology that goes into making the tires and I give them a lot of credit. It's a reputation-risk, just to be in this sport for a company like that, especially ... as far as criticism goes. They do a good job. This is just a bad combination. This tire at this track, it was just a poor combination."

Jeff Gordon finished fifth, and echoed the comments made by Stewart and Earnhardt.

"I felt like I was going to crash every single lap," Gordon said. "I'm exhausted right now. I feel like I've run a thousand miles here. That was the hardest day I have ever had at Atlanta, especially for a top-five finish. This car, this tire, at this track was just terrible."

Justin Fantozzi, marketing manager for Goodyear motorsports, defended his company's decision to bring a harder tire to Atlanta.

"I've heard what they said, "Fantozzi said. "To get into attacks in the media is not the right place. We're tremendously proud of the wear rates that we saw here. We had a defined development process for this particular tire. We started in August, with a development test here at Atlanta. From those wear rates and those data sets, we then made a recommendation for the open house test that was a different tire than we actually raced on here in October.

"Based on those wear rates not being acceptable, in our opinion, we then went back and did another development test here in December and then we made that recommendation for here."

Fantozzi said as the official tire supplier for NASCAR, Goodyear is entrusted with making decisions that are in the best interest of the sport.

"We make tire decisions so that we can provide the safest tire that we know how to build at every racetrack," Fantozzi said. "As a supplier of the series, as a partner in the series, we work together but as the tire authority, they let us do our jobs."


Totally Toyota
Tony Stewart wasn't happy with Goodyear, but he gave Kyle Busch and Toyota a thumbs up on a historic day at Atlanta.

Toyota scores first Cup win
Busch returns 18 to victory
Still, Earnhardt wondered what NASCAR's top officials thought about the competitive nature of Sunday's race.

"There's a big difference between complaining and stating the obvious," Junior said. "It is what it is. It's not a complaint. I'm sure that Mike Helton or [Brian] France will say what their opinion is. They probably wouldn't like this any more than the drivers did.

"I don't think, for one, the race was all that exciting. We couldn't run side-by-side, or we'd wreck. We had to let each other go by. Every time you got beside a guy, you were just like, 'Take it.' I couldn't go into the corner side-by-side but nobody else could, either."

Fantozzi said tire company officials will analyze the data from Sunday's race before making a decision on what tire compound to bring when the series returns to Atlanta later this season.

"We'll do the same exact thing that we do every race," Fantozzi said. "We have a post-race data analysis meeting. We now have a new set of data and we'll go back to Akron and sit down with the engineers and go through the process again and see where that leaves us for the fall race.

"Driver comments are part of the data set. It's temperature, it's wear rates, it's driver comments, it's feel, it's grip, it's overall race pace. So we'll look at the overall data set and then we'll make that decision."

Not everyone was as adamant about the tires. Kyle Busch said running up front was a matter of staying patient and taking advantage of what grip you could find.

"I'm going to say that I didn't like it," Busch said. "But I just went out there, and we all had the same tire. They're going to pay somebody to win the race. And so that's what I focused on, was just going out there and try to be the one they were going to pay to win the race. I just drove the thing to the best of my ability.

"You could go the first four or five laps and really haul the mail -- well, the first two anyway -- but from there, you were just skating, sliding all over the place. You just had to be patient with it, slow it down, keep it on the bottom and pretty much just keep that left front right on that line and keep the thing turning in order to make it through the corner."

And crew chief Chad Knaus aimed the blame for Sunday's uncompetitive effort at a different target.

"You know, I think that's where everybody's wrong. It's not the tire, it's the car," Knaus said. "It's just the car. The car asks too much out of the tire. There's only five things that hold the car on the racetrack: That's the four tires and the downforce.

"The car has no downforce and Goodyear has to build an extremely hard tire just to make the tire live because there's no downforce on the car. That makes everybody bad-mouth Goodyear and it's just not fair to them, because Goodyear actually does a very good job
."

Stewart said he hoped speaking out, which he did more than once at AMS, will perhaps force changes to be made.

"The reason we're talking about it and the reason that we're bringing it to everybody's attention is that we don't want to have to race on tires like we raced on [Sunday], every week," Stewart said. "This wasn't fun [Sunday]. There wasn't anything about [Sunday's] race that was fun for anybody. I ran second and I wouldn't re-run this race for any amount of money in the world. It was just that bad.

"We're pleading with Goodyear to do something about this, make it better. Do something to make it better for us so we don't have to run on tires that make it to where you can't run side-by-side."

Earnhardt agreed.

"Hopefully it was a good lesson learned," Junior said. "Goodyear doesn't like to hear people bashing them tires and I don't like doing it, but I ain't going to sit here and put up with this. And I don't think any of those other drivers or anybody is going to do it. Hopefully, we can all get along and come up with something better than this."
 

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