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Nina Davis isn't even the best player on her team, that's Alexis Jones. To debate against someone who never give their team "Lady Vols" or the Lady Vol'ss player any credit is....
And you really gonna blame Cedes for her guars and wings inability to get her the basketball for most of the season? How would u rate Baylors guard play last year vs ours? smh
How did those players finish the season, and the hardest schedule in WCBB against one of the weakest? lol comedy.
U win. Baylor will beat us on paper. lol
3-1... let's go Lady Vols. 4-0 wud be better.
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Nina has been Baylor's best player for three years, including last year when Alexis joined the team.
I'm more than happy to give the Lady Vols credit. I was seemingly Bashaara's only fan last year...a player you liked to trash a lot...and was in Diamond's corner all season too.
I just don't make up stuff like you do. You live in a fantasy world.
Wuteva.
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My spanish is better:
Nina Davis no es aún el mejor jugador de su equipo, eso es Alexis Jones. Para debatir contra alguien que nunca dan su equipo de "Lady Vols" o el jugador Señora Vol'ss ningún crédito es ....
Y que realmente va a Cedes culpa de sus gomas guar y alas incapacidad para conseguir que la pelota de baloncesto durante la mayor parte de la temporada? ÂżCĂłmo calificarĂa el juego u guardia Baylors año pasado frente a la nuestra? SMH
ÂżCĂłmo esos jugadores terminen la temporada, asĂ como el calendario más difĂcil en WCBB contra uno de los más dĂ©biles? lol comedia.
Ganas. Baylor nos va a vencer en el papel. lol
3-1 ... vamos Lady Vols. 4-0 se nos harán mejor.
Nina Davis no es aún el mejor jugador de su equipo, eso es Alexis Jones. Para debatir contra alguien que nunca dan su equipo de "Lady Vols" o el jugador Señora Vol'ss ningún crédito es ....
Y que realmente va a Cedes culpa de sus gomas guar y alas incapacidad para conseguir que la pelota de baloncesto durante la mayor parte de la temporada? ÂżCĂłmo calificarĂa el juego u guardia Baylors año pasado frente a la nuestra? SMH
ÂżCĂłmo esos jugadores terminen la temporada, asĂ como el calendario más difĂcil en WCBB contra uno de los más dĂ©biles? lol comedia.
Ganas. Baylor nos va a vencer en el papel. lol
3-1 ... vamos Lady Vols. 4-0 se nos harán mejor.
My high school Spanish days were many years ago, so I probably caught about 1/2 of that. But I'll try to play.
-I still think Nina is better than Alexis, but this year, Alexis will play a more important role as the point guard
-Not sure I understand the first part. Second part, I think Baylor has much better PG play. Even with Niya Johnson gone, Alexis will slide over to the PG role and they shouldn't miss too much. Tennessee has the better shooting guard with Diamond over Kristy Wallace. They do have Chou, who is a highly regarded freshman, and she could be a contributor.
-Tennessee played a tougher schedule, but didn't win the games against the better opponents. SOS is only a bragging right if you win the games.
-Baylor will be better on paper, and I will gather to say that they will be better on the court as well. They have more backcourt and frontcourt depth, and have the 2 best overall players (Nina, Alexis) on their team.
-4-0 would be nice. I'm not getting my hopes up. I'd be happy with 2-2, but expect 1-3 because it's early in the season, and they have to adjust to the huge roster change.
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Dat was an ole post, you had already responded.
Fyi, No player who can't create their own shot is better than a player who can. ijs
I get it. Our team suck, all the other teams are better. Our guards suck, our post suck. There is no hope this year. We will go 10-19, not make the tournament. All is lost, our players suck. Our coach suck.
A huge roster change with most of the team returning, four starters returning from a team who was playing majority of the minutes (32 +) last part of the year together in Reynolds, Nared, Diamond, Russell, playing some of their best basketball of the season. lol wuteva.
2-2 would be the worst case scenario,
Hey, the great thing about it, we shall see. Go Lady Bears. WTF.
GO LADY VOLS... BETTER!
And yo spanish sucks. lol I do miss the ole Amb, that wasn't so Lady Vols suck jaded.
Fyi, No player who can't create their own shot is better than a player who can. ijs
I get it. Our team suck, all the other teams are better. Our guards suck, our post suck. There is no hope this year. We will go 10-19, not make the tournament. All is lost, our players suck. Our coach suck.
A huge roster change with most of the team returning, four starters returning from a team who was playing majority of the minutes (32 +) last part of the year together in Reynolds, Nared, Diamond, Russell, playing some of their best basketball of the season. lol wuteva.
2-2 would be the worst case scenario,
Hey, the great thing about it, we shall see. Go Lady Bears. WTF.
GO LADY VOLS... BETTER!
And yo spanish sucks. lol I do miss the ole Amb, that wasn't so Lady Vols suck jaded.
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Nina can create her own shot. She can start off at the high post and beat her defender off the dribble. And she's got a very quick release so that she rarely if ever gets blocked, even though she's 5'11.
Incidentally, there is a middle ground between "they suck" and "they are the best team everrrrrrr". I expect Tennessee to be ranked somewhere around 20 for most of the season. They won't lose games they shouldn't lose as often as last year, but will likely be unable to challenge the top 5 teams because they will be underpowered. Sure, we can say that they're going to win NC, go undefeated, 5 starters will be 1st team AA, Jordan will be #1 WNBA pick blah blah blah, but we all know that's not realistic.
Maybe I'll stop being jaded when the team gives me reason to be optimistic. I was really optimistic last year. I thought they might win the whole thing! Yeah, about that...Go LVs?
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Wow. I can't believe you thought that for last year team, with so many players coming back off injuries. wow, so you're hurt, they hurt yo feelings. Awwww u bitter....lol My expectations were tempered more last year, that was my benefit of the doubt year, I just didn't expect all those losses and that kind of play, but hey they got better as the season progressed.
Well, I'm optimistic by their tournament play and the feedback over the summer got me motivated and its an open field for the WCBB Championship, and we have two players ranked #1 in their class, both are now healthy and have two years in our system and Russell and Diamond, both crossed the finishline strong last year. I am curious to see, if they developed into two All Americans.
Nared gaining valuable time, getting her legs, and if Nared can get to the basket on balance, and knock down the open shot efficiently, its on. I like Nared's game, for this offense, if she's ready to run on offense and body on defense, see, I think she's a double digit scorer every game, and she can defend two 3,4 position, double/double every three to four game.
Reynolds started to dictate and control tempo from the lead guard spot, and defend multiple positions, I saw her effects doing the Ohio State game, then to her not playing against Syracuse, they missed her ability to get everyone in the right spot, their spots. She played well down the stretch. She played like a point guard down the stretch, she was aggressive on both sides of the ball. I'm excited to see, if she plays well this year, Reynolds a double digit scorer, every game.
Our team defense for the most part, which has always been pretty good under Holly, and I think that will continue, our defense will be better, cos our ladies trust each other more, and our team will be better cos they trust each other more.
I have a lot of reasons to be optimistic about this team, I like the small group, less rotation, players get to play extended minutes seeing our best players perform more, Nared junior, Cedes junior, Diamond junior, Reynolds senior, Middleton Junior, Dunbar Junior, I'm excited to see if they will play close or near their potential.
I am excited this year, I think it will be a coming out party, the ladies will play team basketball most of the year, and win some big games, and play Lady Vols basketball most of the year, every game will be a battle.
Plus, I think the ladies are hungry from last year, it left a bitter taste in their mouth for being known as "The worst team in Lady Vols history" and death of Pat Summitt, providing that fire, that competitive fire, to help motivate this team to play Lady Vols basketball: defense, rebounding, and good guard play win championships.
I am optimistic to see if Meme, Middleton, Nunn, Dunbar will contribute to this team, which one can defend and don't make offensive mistakes with turnovers, who of that group can become lockdown defender and rebounder, a utility player, does a lil bit of everything.
So yes, I am optimistic that we will not have a season like last year, and like most of Holly's team, we will compete for a regular season championship and/or SEC tourney tourney title.
They're not a lot of deep teams across country, so what applies to us, no depth, starters playing extended minutes, applies to a lot of teams, but the players love it. So, yes I am excited to see Russell, Reynolds, Diamond, Nared, play basketball together, cos with Graves and Cooper, the combinations fit, and I'm curious who will be that players that keep it clicking, cos the games against ASU, Albany, Ohio State, with Jordan Reynolds leading the way, was some good basketball.
Last year, was last year. Hey, we have a top 10 recruit committed before entering the season, I mean if you ain't excited about seeing a healthy Diamond Deshields, and this team play, how can you call yoself, a Lady Vols fan.
2016-2017 Lady Vols. A different Team!
Wuteva
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We'll have to see what kind of defense this team can play, and whether we can make shots consistently. You have to make threes and defend the three to beat good teams nowadays--that's how we lost to syracuse. Making and defending the three, outside shooting: those might be UT's biggest weaknesses this year, as they've been for a few years.
Of these 4 games:
Baylor
Texas
Stanford
Notre Dame
I think 2-2 is a realistic guess. It isn't just about the rosters which people seem to like to focus on probably a bit more than they should. There are other major factors that could play a role in who has the edge in the game.
Baylor (12/4/16)- I really cannot see Tennessee coming away with the win here. Baylor just has more deciding factors in this game. They have a very deep bench with players that know their roles and when they get into the game they typically fulfill them. Also by this time Baylor will have already played UCLA & UConn which I would think would have taught them a few things about themselves already.
This game will really be Tennessee's first "Big" match of the year. The only advantage I see is that they are at home. I would have to go major edge Baylor.
Texas (12/11/16)- This is a game I think Tennessee could win IF their interior defense improves. Last years match up wasn't a great showing for either team but it did appear that as the game wore on Texas became more conservative with their shot selection while Tennessee did not. Tennessee got beat down the floor, off the dribble, and on pick and rolls. They gave up way too many points in the paint... who is stopping the Texas guards this year? Aston started the game last year 4 out 1 in... I wonder if she does the same this year.
A few intangibles here as well. Texas is @ home. Texas will have already played Stanford, Mississippi State, South Carolina, & UConn... guaranteed Aston and staff will have made some changes by this game. Even still I'm going to go slight edge Tennessee.
Stanford (12/18/16)- Here is another game that I think Tennessee could and likely should win. Stanford is an extremely young team that lost its floor general. With Thompson gone the only player I envision Tara having enough faith in to run the point is Marta Sniezek who is actually quite serviceable.
This is a home game for Tennessee and a game that I think the crowd could really get into since Stanford has a history of ruining a lot of teams holiday vacations with big unexpected wins in the month of December. Stanford will have played Texas and Gonzaga @ this point. This kicker in this game is Vanderveer. Her knowledge of the game could make this much closer than Tennessee would want. Put it this way... if Stanford goes into the half time break down by more than 5 points... expect Tara to throw something @ Holly they she doesn't expect. It will be a chess match for sure. I give a moderate edge to Tennessee.
Notre Dame (1/16/16)- Guard play, guard play, guard play. The Irish can give you so many looks on the perimeter. They pass the ball extremely well. Although some will say well all they have is Turner inside my question would be... who is guarding her? Whoever gets that assignment better be ready to run because I guarantee you she beats Mercedes down the floor in transition every time.... which then sets up the trail 3 in the event a Vol guard gets back to keep Turner from getting an easy 2... which they make.
Tennessee has two things going for them in this match up; they are at home and this one is later in the season. Major edge to Notre Dame.
Baylor
Texas
Stanford
Notre Dame
I think 2-2 is a realistic guess. It isn't just about the rosters which people seem to like to focus on probably a bit more than they should. There are other major factors that could play a role in who has the edge in the game.
Baylor (12/4/16)- I really cannot see Tennessee coming away with the win here. Baylor just has more deciding factors in this game. They have a very deep bench with players that know their roles and when they get into the game they typically fulfill them. Also by this time Baylor will have already played UCLA & UConn which I would think would have taught them a few things about themselves already.
This game will really be Tennessee's first "Big" match of the year. The only advantage I see is that they are at home. I would have to go major edge Baylor.
Texas (12/11/16)- This is a game I think Tennessee could win IF their interior defense improves. Last years match up wasn't a great showing for either team but it did appear that as the game wore on Texas became more conservative with their shot selection while Tennessee did not. Tennessee got beat down the floor, off the dribble, and on pick and rolls. They gave up way too many points in the paint... who is stopping the Texas guards this year? Aston started the game last year 4 out 1 in... I wonder if she does the same this year.
A few intangibles here as well. Texas is @ home. Texas will have already played Stanford, Mississippi State, South Carolina, & UConn... guaranteed Aston and staff will have made some changes by this game. Even still I'm going to go slight edge Tennessee.
Stanford (12/18/16)- Here is another game that I think Tennessee could and likely should win. Stanford is an extremely young team that lost its floor general. With Thompson gone the only player I envision Tara having enough faith in to run the point is Marta Sniezek who is actually quite serviceable.
This is a home game for Tennessee and a game that I think the crowd could really get into since Stanford has a history of ruining a lot of teams holiday vacations with big unexpected wins in the month of December. Stanford will have played Texas and Gonzaga @ this point. This kicker in this game is Vanderveer. Her knowledge of the game could make this much closer than Tennessee would want. Put it this way... if Stanford goes into the half time break down by more than 5 points... expect Tara to throw something @ Holly they she doesn't expect. It will be a chess match for sure. I give a moderate edge to Tennessee.
Notre Dame (1/16/16)- Guard play, guard play, guard play. The Irish can give you so many looks on the perimeter. They pass the ball extremely well. Although some will say well all they have is Turner inside my question would be... who is guarding her? Whoever gets that assignment better be ready to run because I guarantee you she beats Mercedes down the floor in transition every time.... which then sets up the trail 3 in the event a Vol guard gets back to keep Turner from getting an easy 2... which they make.
Tennessee has two things going for them in this match up; they are at home and this one is later in the season. Major edge to Notre Dame.
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To be successful this year, Tennessee needs a lot of production from Russell and Diamond. If the opponents play zone, it takes away the strengths of both players. Without consistent outside shooting, the opponent's defense has no reason to come out and guard the perimeter. If the defense packs it in, there is no room for either Russell or Diamond to operate in the paint or slash to the basket.
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Later in year, zone didn't give us too much of problem with Reynolds at point guard, the ball movement, and player movement was nice, with Cooper she dribbled more, usually disrupted the offensive flow, but she shot the ball well, against syracuse she struggled. Our ladies will be ready for the zone this year.
Nice, but what do you think the record is going to be against those four teams.
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To prevent deer in headlights syndrome, they need to be able to consistently hit the 3-pointer: Jordan, Jaime and Diamond need to be able to hit probably around 35-40% from downtown. Alexa will need to be able to do the same off the bench.
If this team cannot consistently score outside, then defenses will just swarm Mercedes, and it will be a repeat of turning the ball over forcing it inside or playing hot potato until it lands in Diamond's hands 26 feet from the basket with 1 second on the shot clock.
Bottom line is that Middleton, Nared and Reynolds need to be light years better than they were last year, and Nunn (and probably Harris) will need to be immediate contributors if they want to be a top 10 team.
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I agree and I hope someone told Middleton that she needs to shoot. She will more than likely come off the bench and coaches will more than likely sag off of her because she hasn't shown that she can hit the 3 but if she is open she needs to shoot it.
As for Nunn, I think she will have a better Senior (I know she's a graduate with a year of eligibility left) season than Graves had last. I think she will be a consistent double double and will play a lot at the 5 spot as they get Harris up to speed of playing at the collegiate level. Nunn will more than likely start in a lineup that consist of;
PG-Reynolds
SG-DeSheilds
SF-Nared
PF-Nunn
C-Russell
And I think when the first subs are made the lineup will be;
PG-Deshields
SG-Middleton
SF-Jackson
PF-Dunbar
C-Nunn
I think Diamond will see some action at the backup PG spot as they want to keep the ball in her hand and allow her to make plays (kind of like the Phoenix Mercury has always done with Taurasi) Diamond will also log a lot of minutes because they need her scoring punch.
I just hope Harris can come in and be our eraser (similar to what Stokes did for UConn) we don't need her to be a scorer (at least not right now) we just need her to defend and rebound and log quality minutes to allow Nunn and Russell to get some breaks.
The 9 player rotation will be fun to see (imo) because Holly will not be able to make head scratching substitutions. I also think with all they've endured since the end of last season (the bitter taste at not making it to the final four when they were right there, Coach Summitt's passing, not being ranked high in the polls to begin the season and other factors) will have the a much hungrier and family oriented team.
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