Top 3 NFL teams (Fan Poll)

#3
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JohnLange said:
Odd that the best team couldn't make it to the final four.
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just like the cardinals did last night, the titans beat themselves. the cardinals were the better team on the field last night, but you can't win a game with that many penalty yards. that is essentially what gave the steelers a few touchdowns. coulda woulda shoulda, the cardinals still lost. the titans turnovers cost them the game, but they were still a better team than the ravens imo. but they both beat themselves and the steelers did just enough to wiggle a win. you could argue that the steelers are better because they won the superbowl and had the top ranked defense (blah,blah,blah), but i think a lot of teams were better than the cardinals and yet they still made it to the superbowl.
 
#6
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blupotato said:
just like the cardinals did last night, the titans beat themselves. the cardinals were the better team on the field last night, but you can't win a game with that many penalty yards. that is essentially what gave the steelers a few touchdowns. coulda woulda shoulda, the cardinals still lost. the titans turnovers cost them the game, but they were still a better team than the ravens imo. but they both beat themselves and the steelers did just enough to wiggle a win. you could argue that the steelers are better because they won the superbowl and had the top ranked defense (blah,blah,blah), but i think a lot of teams were better than the cardinals and yet they still made it to the superbowl.
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1. how exactly did the cardinals beat themselves when the steelers had to drive the length of the field with 2.37 to go to win?
2. yet there the cardinals were with less than three minutes to go with the lead, despite that 100 yards in penalties.
3. nothing was "given". these are typical remarks from people that have no idea what they are looking at when they watch a football game from only one perspective.
4. the titans are still better than the raves, in your opinion. well, who cares? i got a scoreboard that says your opinion means squat.
5. if you did argue that it'd be the only thing correct in this post.
 
#7
#7
Guys, it's a fan poll. Calm down

The guy just wanted to make a fun post where you put who you think are the best 3 teams in the league, whether it be super bowl champ, record, or whatever
 
#8
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jakez4ut said:
1. how exactly did the cardinals beat themselves when the steelers had to drive the length of the field with 2.37 to go to win?
2. yet there the cardinals were with less than three minutes to go with the lead, despite that 100 yards in penalties.
3. nothing was "given". these are typical remarks from people that have no idea what they are looking at when they watch a football game from only one perspective.
4. the titans are still better than the raves, in your opinion. well, who cares? i got a scoreboard that says your opinion means squat.
5. if you did argue that it'd be the only thing correct in this post.
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well i can argue the same on your end. my post stated that both the titans and cardinals beat themselves. are you arguing that? the final drive by the steelers is not being contested in my post. they won the game when it mattered. and based on your scorecard that is all that matters. i am not arguing that. they won the superbowl, they will be considered the best team. but you can't sit here and tell me that because of cardinal penalties that the steelers did not get excellent field position consistently, and in fact on a couple of those drives they were basically moving down the field because of personal fouls on the cardinals. so don't tell me that the steelers were not helped out by cardinal penalties. the cardinals beat themselves, plain and simple. and if you want to be a steeler homer and say that they were not helped out by cardinal mistakes than we must have watched a different game. i still feel that the titans are a better team than the ravens and they still played better in that game, but turnovers killed them. i can't turn back the clock and change the outcome of either game, but i can argue that they are still a better team than the ravens.
 
#9
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jakez4ut said:
1. how exactly did the cardinals beat themselves when the steelers had to drive the length of the field with 2.37 to go to win?
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The colossal mistake to end the first half resulted in a 14 point swing in a game that was ultimately decided by 4 points. Additionally, I think the Cards gave the Steelers three 15 yard penalties on one of their scoring drives. There were definitely some mistakes made.
 
#10
#10
blupotato said:
just like the cardinals did last night, the titans beat themselves. the cardinals were the better team on the field last night, but you can't win a game with that many penalty yards. that is essentially what gave the steelers a few touchdowns. coulda woulda shoulda, the cardinals still lost. the titans turnovers cost them the game, but they were still a better team than the ravens imo. but they both beat themselves and the steelers did just enough to wiggle a win. you could argue that the steelers are better because they won the superbowl and had the top ranked defense (blah,blah,blah), but i think a lot of teams were better than the cardinals and yet they still made it to the superbowl.
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when the team with the toughest schedule, best record, and the #1 defense in the nfl wins the super bowl it's hard to argue that they are not the best team. the steelers also had costly penalties. end of debate.
 
#11
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jakez4ut said:
1. how exactly did the cardinals beat themselves when the steelers had to drive the length of the field with 2.37 to go to win?
2. yet there the cardinals were with less than three minutes to go with the lead, despite that 100 yards in penalties.
3. nothing was "given". these are typical remarks from people that have no idea what they are looking at when they watch a football game from only one perspective.
4. the titans are still better than the raves, in your opinion. well, who cares? i got a scoreboard that says your opinion means squat.
5. if you did argue that it'd be the only thing correct in this post.
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nice post. some may say that i'm biased, i would argue that i'm realistic.
 
#12
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blupotato said:
well i can argue the same on your end. my post stated that both the titans and cardinals beat themselves. are you arguing that? the final drive by the steelers is not being contested in my post. they won the game when it mattered. and based on your scorecard that is all that matters. i am not arguing that. they won the superbowl, they will be considered the best team. but you can't sit here and tell me that because of cardinal penalties that the steelers did not get excellent field position consistently, and in fact on a couple of those drives they were basically moving down the field because of personal fouls on the cardinals. so don't tell me that the steelers were not helped out by cardinal penalties. the cardinals beat themselves, plain and simple. and if you want to be a steeler homer and say that they were not helped out by cardinal mistakes than we must have watched a different game. i still feel that the titans are a better team than the ravens and they still played better in that game, but turnovers killed them. i can't turn back the clock and change the outcome of either game, but i can argue that they are still a better team than the ravens.
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at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you think.
 
#13
#13
JohnLange said:
The colossal mistake to end the first half resulted in a 14 point swing in a game that was ultimately decided by 4 points. Additionally, I think the Cards gave the Steelers three 15 yard penalties on one of their scoring drives. There were definitely some mistakes made.
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the cards didn't give the interception to the steelers. it was caused by a great defensive play call, great defensive coaching, and harrison still had to catch the ball not to mention the incredible run to the endzone that was 100 yards away. you lose what credibility that you may have had if you don't give the steelers the majority of the credit there.
 
#14
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you keep calling these mistakes...and i guess they are...but it's not like harrison was just standing there and was the benefactor of an errant throw. the defense was called so that he faked a blitz and dropped in to coverage to cover the outside WR.

when he dropped back, warner had thrown the ball (their offense is alot to do about timing) and harrison was there to make the pick.


if you pay attention to those that really know football, a la Jim Mora on NFL Network, he characterized the play as Dick Lebeau outsmarting Kurt Warner and Jim Hailey.

and again, you all keep stating these things like there was some unnatural force at work ensuring the steelers won.

with less than three minutes to go, th cardinals were winning. Despite all the crap you people, cardinal fan or not, steeler hater or not, keep complaining about, what they failed to do defensively to win the game, the steelers did offensively to win.

this game didn't boil down to who had most penalties. it came down to who made the play when they had to.
 
#15
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thagodfather said:
the cards didn't give the interception to the steelers. it was caused by a great defensive play call, great defensive coaching, and harrison still had to catch the ball not to mention the incredible run to the endzone that was 100 yards away. you lose what credibility that you may have had if you don't give the steelers the majority of the credit there.
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I didn't say the Steelers deserve no credit, but if Kurt Warner doesn't make a mistake with his pass, they don't get a TD. That's just the way it is. I'm sure if you asked Warner about it, he'd say he made a mistake. Capitalizing on mistakes is what good football teams do. Congratulations, the Steelers managed to do just that.
 
#16
#16
Miami Dolphins ...a solid #8.....after being last years ''whatever'' thats pretty good.
 
#18
#18
thagodfather said:
at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you think.
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look i am sick and tired of you steeler fans coming in and bashing people for their opinions. you know what, my opinion means just as much as yours and anyone elses on here. so there is really no need to get personal. i was simply stating that the cardinals gave up a lot of penalties on several drives to keep the steelers possession. you can be mean spirited about it because your beloved steelers won. but it is what it is. on paper the steelers look better. the steelers have the ring. i am not disputing that. but do i think the penalties were the ultimate cause for the cardinals to lose than, yes. they certainly did not help their cause. but i guess it doesn't matter because your opinion is the only important one and because your a so called football coach you know everything.
 
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#19
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blupotato......relax.

you've stated over and over again that the cardinals mistakes are what led to the Steelers victory, and yes, they didn't hurt the cause.
but do i think the penalties were the ultimate cause for the cardinals to lose than, yes
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but i think it naive to over look some things and just say the only reason the cards lost/steelers won was because of penalties against the cards. that's just not true.
 
#20
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jakez4ut said:
blupotato......relax.

you've stated over and over again that the cardinals mistakes are what led to the Steelers victory, and yes, they didn't hurt the cause.
but i think it naive to over look some things and just say the only reason the cards lost/steelers won was because of penalties against the cards. that's just not true.
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i agree with you jake. i am not upset, but i feel the need to defend myself when someone says that what someone posts has no value. were penalties the only thing that cost them the game, no. was the final drive spectacular, yes. did the steelers win, yes. in no way were those the only reasons that they lost. like i said before we can coulda woulda shoulda every play, but the outcome is what it is. i just don't understand all the hostility towards someone with a differing opinion. i respect fully what you have to say, and even if the three of us don't see eye to eye it shouldn't change the value of a posters thoughts and opinions.
 
#21
#21
you get to watch your team all season long, they get to the super bowl, they win.

i've posted all year about all the things wrong with the Steelers. I never htought they could win teh super bowl this season.

and to see them do it the way they did it with so many big plays from multiple players, was just spectacular. the game itself was great. both teams in the end did enough to give themselves a chance to win.

and to come on here and just see everyone trying to tear it all down and "excuse away" the win to just the penalties or a percieved mistake by the cardinals...well, it gets me going. we won, so yeah, my perspective is totally different, but i've not once ever said that the penalties etc...didnt' help when they were called. sure they helped.

but i've watched this team's defense all year. what they did to the cards is what they've done to teams all year, save giving up that many passing yards. but that front 7 has given just about every O line they've faced problems. problems to the point that they creat these penalties. they put Offenses in positon to make mistakes like that. they force tackles to hold due to the speed off the edge. they force intentional grounding they force false starts. they create turnovers.

they've done it all year. and for me to watch that game and someone that has zero frame of reference just chock it up to penalties, well, i do take issue with that cause i do know better.

were all the calls right? no. but that happens. i'm sure not every call agains the Steelers was correct, but we won, so i don't remember it if it happened.

point being, if you ask me or any other steeler fan if the "steelers won" the game or if the Cardinals 'lost' it, i'll tell you we won it every day of the week. and not apologize for it one bit.

and it's not like we didn't have our fair share of holding calls, personal foul calls etc.....and i'll just go back to it.....under three minutes to go, cards are winning and just need a defensive stop to hoist the trophy.

at that point, nothing else that happened prior mattered. at that point, it was simply a matter of who was going to make the plays to win.
 
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#22
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JohnLange said:
I didn't say the Steelers deserve no credit, but if Kurt Warner doesn't make a mistake with his pass, they don't get a TD. That's just the way it is. I'm sure if you asked Warner about it, he'd say he made a mistake. Capitalizing on mistakes is what good football teams do. Congratulations, the Steelers managed to do just that.
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it was a forced mistake. learn the game. the game is so much better to watch when you actually know what is going on inside the game.
 
#23
#23
blupotato said:
look i am sick and tired of you steeler fans coming in and bashing people for their opinions. you know what, my opinion means just as much as yours and anyone elses on here. so there is really no need to get personal. i was simply stating that the cardinals gave up a lot of penalties on several drives to keep the steelers possession. you can be mean spirited about it because your beloved steelers won. but it is what it is. on paper the steelers look better. the steelers have the ring. i am not disputing that. but do i think the penalties were the ultimate cause for the cardinals to lose than, yes. they certainly did not help their cause. but i guess it doesn't matter because your opinion is the only important one and because your a so called football coach you know everything.
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everything, not even close.
 
#24
#24
thagodfather said:
it was a forced mistake. learn the game. the game is so much better to watch when you actually know what is going on inside the game.
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I understand football pretty well. Based on the fact that you essentially agreed with my statement, I'd say you should focus on learning the English language.
 
#25
#25
blupotato said:
i agree with you jake. i am not upset, but i feel the need to defend myself when someone says that what someone posts has no value. were penalties the only thing that cost them the game, no. was the final drive spectacular, yes. did the steelers win, yes. in no way were those the only reasons that they lost. like i said before we can coulda woulda shoulda every play, but the outcome is what it is. i just don't understand all the hostility towards someone with a differing opinion. i respect fully what you have to say, and even if the three of us don't see eye to eye it shouldn't change the value of a posters thoughts and opinions.
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:cray: no seriously, settle down man. i apologize. you're still way off target though. steelers had their share of penalties and penalties are in the context of the game. those cardinal holding penalties were forced by james harrison because #69 for the cardinals wasn't good enough to block him. it's not as if the cardinals gave the game away.
 
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