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#26
#26
DinkinFlicka said:
That you have little to no understanding of the Bible or that you and TNVOLNAVY are secretly lovers/possibly the same account.
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You didn't answer my question. You did engage in attacking me, but not specifically what I posted. Ad hominems aren't answers.
 
#27
#27
Rasputin_Vol said:
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The tirade at the temple was very specific; money was being exchanged that made it possible for Roman currency naming Caesar as a god to be used to fund Temple activities. Also, priests were pronouncing sacrifices brought in as unclean and having families buy new sacrifices from "approved" vendors.

Christ's only recorded moment of anger was at people profiting from acts of contrition that were supposed to be free.
 
#28
#28
Rasputin_Vol said:
You didn't answer my question. You did engage in attacking me, but not specifically what I posted. Ad hominems aren't answers.
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The temple incident wasn't a reaction to oppression, big government mandates, or an election dispute. It was a reaction to profiting off penance.

For you to use it in tandem with TardNavy's "maybe Christians are tired of the Bible's teachings" steaming pile of horse sh*t was both unfounded and lazy.
 
#29
#29
AshG said:
The tirade at the temple was very specific; money was being exchanged that made it possible for Roman currency naming Caesar as a god to be used to fund Temple activities. Also, priests were pronouncing sacrifices brought in as unclean and having families buy new sacrifices from "approved" vendors.

Christ's only recorded moment of anger was at people profiting from acts of contrition that were supposed to be free.
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So acts of aggression were met with force.
 
#31
#31
DinkinFlicka said:
The temple incident wasn't a reaction to oppression, big government mandates, or an election dispute. It was a reaction to profiting off penance.

For you to use it in response to TardNavy's "maybe Christians are tired of the Bible's teachings" steaming pile of horse sh*t was both unfounded and lazy.
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Really?
 
#35
#35
DinkinFlicka said:
Where do you keep conjuring this "Act of aggression" drivel? I'll play.
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Taking advantage of widows and orphans with their usury and taking advantage of travelers with their exchange rates. It was a crime racket taking advantage of the most vulnerable.

And if you really want to get deeper, they were even threatening to punish Crist for healing people on the Sabbath. He even healed a woman in Matthew 8:14 that had COVID..., but obviously didn't use the approved methods (healing instead of the vaccine) at the approved time (on the Sabbath).
 
#36
#36
Rasputin_Vol said:
taking advantage of widows and orphans with their usury and taking advantage of travelers with their exchange rates. It was a crime racket taking advantage of the most vulnerable.

And if you really want to get deeper, they were even threatening to punish Crist for healing people on the Sabbath. He even healed a woman in Matthew 8:14 that had COVID..., but obviously didn't use the approved methods (healing instead of the vaccine) at the approved time (on the Sabbath).
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Wow, there's a lot to unpack here.

You're casting such a magnificently wide net for what aggression is.

As for the comparison of leprosy and COVID, and the divine healing to whatever you want to do for COVID... I have no words. That's just so blatantly absurd and such a far flung reach.
 
#37
#37
Judas turned Christ in to the authorities in hopes of igniting conflict. Judas wanted a Military Messiah to run the Romans out of town and tried to push the issue.

Christ went willingly and peacefully, even healing a soldier wounded by one of His disciples along the way. Oh, how we've missed the mark by trying to paint Christ as a warlord when He taught us to the contrary.
 
#38
#38
AshG said:
No. That's not Christ. At all.
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Does this sound like a pacifist?

11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.
 
#39
#39
DinkinFlicka said:
Wow, there's a lot to unpack here.

You're casting such a magnificently wide net for what aggression is.

As for the comparison of leprosy and COVID, and the divine healing to whatever you want to do for COVID... I have no words. That's just so blatantly absurd and such a far flung reach.
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Maybe she didn't have COVID. My bad...
 
#41
#41
Rasputin_Vol said:
Does this sound like a pacifist?

11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[a] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.
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Completely different issue/context.
 
#42
#42
AshG said:
Judas turned Christ in to the authorities in hopes of igniting conflict. Judas wanted a Military Messiah to run the Romans out of town and tried to push the issue.

Christ went willingly and peacefully, even healing a soldier wounded by one of His disciples along the way. Oh, how we've missed the mark by trying to paint Christ as a warlord when He taught us to the contrary.
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WTF? He didn't fuss or fight because he had to fulfill the prophecy of dying and resurrecting. He even had to correct Peter when he wanted to deviate from what was prophesized.

31 He then began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and after three days rise again. 32 He spoke plainly about this, and Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him.

33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. “Get behind me, Satan!” he said. “You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”
 
#45
#45
On this episode of "Ras Mental Gymnastics," we elect to rewrite the Biblical narrative.

Lmao. Holy sh*t, dude. You're on another level.
 
#46
#46
Rasputin_Vol said:
I only said COVID to get you riled up... It was just as likely influenza or malaria. Either way, the ailment doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. Relax
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Yeah, I'm so riled up.

Pretty sure it affects your daily life more than mine, ya nutter.
 
#47
#47
Rasputin_Vol said:
WTF? He didn't fuss or fight because he had to fulfill the prophecy of dying and resurrecting. He even had to correct Peter when he wanted to deviate from what was prophesized.
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That's right. And that's not what Judas wanted. He thought that when the rubber met the road that the Son of God would call in His angels and establish His kingdom then and there.

Judas bet wrong.
 
#48
#48
AshG said:
That's right. And that's not what Judas wanted. He thought that when the rubber met the road that the Son of God would call in His angels and establish His kingdom then and there.

Judas bet wrong.
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And again, it wasn't like Jesus wouldn't have fought them if the time was right or that it was sinful and wrong to fight them. It just wasn't part of the plan. You all want to make Jesus out to be some hippie pacifist in Birkenstocks.
 
#49
#49
Rasputin_Vol said:
The same man. The one you said:
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The Revelation of John of Patmos is Apocalyptic scripture. It carries a different weight and hermeneutic than historical scripture. If you like it, you might also be interested in the Revelation of Peter of Rome, where the babies aborted at the command of God show up with the angels at the final battle, shooting lasers out of their eyes. I think I got the name of the apocryphal text right.

Anyway, Christ Triumphant is only at the final battle, leading an army of saints already passed on for the confrontation with Lucifer and the Beast. Hardly a model for modern disagreement handling.
 
#50
#50
Rasputin_Vol said:
And again, it wasn't like Jesus wouldn't have fought them if the time was right or that it was sinful and wrong to fight them. It just wasn't part of the plan. You all want to make Jesus out to be some hippie pacifist in Birkenstocks.
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I have an understand of scripture that accepts Christ the Rabbi at one time and Christ the Triumphant at another.

And I also remember who He said are the blessed.
 
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