TP wants us "hanging on a tree"

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BelAirVol said:
This is a problem in this country right now. You are as divisive as the CBC guy. The manner in which you are referring to your fellow Americans as they and us.

Just how many African Americans are in the Tea Party?
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I really don't walk in to a room ever and start doing minority head counts. But that's just me. I see people first and then maybe color down the line. When I first saw my wife I didn't think hey there's an asian. She's a minority. I thought damn she looks good in the jeans and I want to see her out of them. It's kinda the same thought I had when I was in my late teens and dating a black girl. Whoopie doo. She was black.

Liberals make race such a big freaking deal. It's like a little sick obession this country has.
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
yes cracker!
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Unless you have special sunglasses on and are The Piper you don't realize that when we say lower taxes and less gov we really mean kill everything that isnt white and kill it now.
 
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NEOCON said:
I really don't walk in to a room ever and start doing minority head counts. But that's just me. I see people first and then maybe color down the line. When I first saw my wife I didn't think hey there's an asian. She's a minority. I thought damn she looks good in the jeans and I want to see her out of them. It's kinda the same thought I had when I was in my late teens and dating a black girl. Whoopie doo. She was black.

Liberals make race such a big freaking deal. It's like a little sick obession this country has.
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Carson needs to start naming names. He doesn't need to let the Tea Party keep spreading all this hatred.
 
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volinbham said:
Okay here's a chance for those against the TP. The mantra has been since the TP isn't shouting down the minority of members that are racist then they are in effect condoning the position.

The President is leader of the Democratic Party and the country. Should he not condemn this incendiary and uncivil language? Particularly since that is his official position. If he does not condemn it strongly is he in effect condoning these comments and similar ones by Waters, Jackson, etc.?
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Wouldn't that mean the left would have to possess the maturity to abandon their convenient double standards? You are categorically unreasonable.
 
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BelAirVol has a repeating pattern of decrying the incivility of conservatives... in a pretty uncivil and divisive manner. I guess like Obama... it is only uncivil if your opponent says things you can't handle or answer. It isn't uncivil when your side unleashes a range of hate-filled, racist, biased rants/lies/propaganda.
 
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sjt18 said:
BelAirVol has a repeating pattern of decrying the incivility of conservatives... in a pretty uncivil and divisive manner. I guess like Obama... it is only uncivil if your opponent says things you can't handle or answer. It isn't uncivil when your side unleashes a range of hate-filled, racist, biased rants/lies/propaganda.
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I think most folks, whether they call themselves liberals and conservatives, are cordial and polite. But the cameras and the microphones always seem to find the outliers.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think most folks, whether they call themselves liberals and conservatives, are cordial and polite. But the cameras and the microphones always seem to find the outliers.
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Maybe you can help me. I haven't seen any notable liberal show any sort of respect for the Tea Party. Lately they seem to be following talking points that you might have written.

In spite of the best efforts of the MSM, the left has found nothing that would suggest the TP is nearly as racist as the population as a whole. TP members FLOCK to hear black speakers and cheer them as wildly as white speakers. TP'ers put a couple of black guys into congress this past cycle. Herman Cain is very popular among TPer's... he might even be their favorite. There is absolutely, positively NOTHING that suggests the TP is racist at all.

So please tell me why these attacks continue... and continue broadly.
 
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PS LG- would you consider yourself an "outlier"? You have engaged in more than your share of false and unfair criticisms toward the TP and conservatives generally... especially regarding race based motives.
 
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sjt18 said:
PS LG- would you consider yourself an "outlier"? You have engaged in more than your share of false and unfair criticisms toward the TP and conservatives generally... especially regarding race based motives.
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Interesting that an outlier in the TP that might make a comment viewed as racially insensitive marks the TP as racist but presumably Mr. Carson is just an outlier among Democrats and is in no way indicative of an underlying view held among all Democrats.
 
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utvolpj said:
what's it matter? Is a group of white people calling for limited gov't automatically racist?
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No. I wanted to know how many African Americans are members of the Tea Party. Surely one of our forum members has an approximation
 
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volinbham said:
Interesting that an outlier in the TP that might make a comment viewed as racially insensitive marks the TP as racist but presumably Mr. Carson is just an outlier among Democrats and is in no way indicative of an underlying view held among all Democrats.
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you're starting to understand how this works.
 
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sjt18 said:
BelAirVol has a repeating pattern of decrying the incivility of conservatives... in a pretty uncivil and divisive manner. I guess like Obama... it is only uncivil if your opponent says things you can't handle or answer. It isn't uncivil when your side unleashes a range of hate-filled, racist, biased rants/lies/propaganda.
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Show where I have been uncivil and divisive. Are you mad at me because I noted your divisiveness in a few posts? Or because I called you out for your broad generalizations that are generally not accurate?


For the record, I am not an Obama supporter, but that doesn't mean that I am stupid enough to think the guy hates America and has intentionally implemented programs he knew would fail
 
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BelAirVol said:
No. I wanted to know how many African Americans are members of the Tea Party. Surely one of our forum members has an approximation
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Depends on whose polling you trust. I have seen polling that suggests 5%+ are black and minorities total 15% or slightly more. I have seen polls that suggest much lower numbers.

I think the problem here is that ideals do not have color... why artificially bring it into the conversation? Why spend so much effort trying to avoid a debate about the merit of ideas and ideals?
 
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BelAirVol said:
Show where I have been uncivil and divisive.
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See post #21. Neocon's comment was innocuous yet you accused him of being divisive and compared his comment to the rants of these race-baiters. -
Are you mad at me because I noted your divisiveness in a few posts?
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No. I really don't mind being divisive. I don't mind you being divisive. I object to you calling someone else out for being "divisive" when you do something similar.
Or because I called you out for your broad generalizations that are generally not accurate?
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Nope... still waiting for you to demonstrate they aren't generally accurate.

For the record, I am not an Obama supporter, but that doesn't mean that I am stupid enough to think the guy hates America and has intentionally implemented programs he knew would fail
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I don't believe that either. I believe he implemented programs he thought would succeed. I don't know what his objectives were in every case... However I think he's surprised and shocked that the economic solutions provided by his group of academians failed miserably. I think he truly believes that a big gov't takeover of health care will improve the system all the way around. I think he truly believes that a dollar of unemployment is of the same value to the economy as a dollar of tax cut that creates a job and residual wealth creation.

On the more subtle side, I am concerned about the influence of various radicals in his life as well as black liberation theology. I wonder how much those things have painted his ultimate vision for the country. Before you answer on this... I hope you will read as much as you can find on BLT then consider he sat under the preaching of it for 20 years and considered the preacher a mentor.
 
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BelAirVol said:
No. I wanted to know how many African Americans are members of the Tea Party. Surely one of our forum members has an approximation
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I have only been to one meeting that was larger than my local members and that was the nashville convention. I'm really sorry but I didn't do a head count ther either. I just don't make that big a deal out of spotting the non whites.

99% of the meetings I have attended have either been non formal luncheons at Sam's sports grill in Hendersonville, the sports bar in Brentwood or the cheesecake factory in green hills. We normally just meet in a small group and talk about current events and pass info along to help each other out. The attendees normally are different with a few same faces as not everyone can meet each time. I think I've meet with over 80 or 90 people in the past 6 months during lunch and maybe 9 or 10 were black. 3 were chinese. And there was one from India. Again, I didn't do a "who's not white here" head count but that seems to be how many i remember.

People seem to think we're this tied together party that has one unified agenda. We don't. We're more locally based.
 
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So would it be ok if they wanted to hang him just because he's a dick? I mean, I've wanted to hang a couple people before, but they weren't black.
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pl3 said:
Oh no he di'int.
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Oh yes I did and the brown sugar was good to me.

Met her when I was working at media play in the book section. she was reading some book in blue jean shorts and a white tshirt.

daddy liked it
 
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BelAirVol said:
No. I wanted to know how many African Americans are members of the Tea Party. Surely one of our forum members has an approximation
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More Black folks in the Tea Party than they are White Folks in the Congressional Black caucus i bet.
 
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