Trae Golden...what is best for him/team?

#26
#26
Best thing for him right now is for CCM to drill it into his head that there are other players still on the floor with 2 minutes left in the game. At the end, it's like he switches off any PG mentality and goes full on SG mode. At the end, an assist is just as good as a score. The point needs to see the floor and when it comes to crunch time, Golden just doesn't.
 
#27
#27
Best thing for Trae Golden, and the rest of the young chuckers that are prevalent in college hoops, is that there's a reason Chauncey Billups is a respected veteran with a ring, and Jamal Crawford is a journeyman, despite similar levels of talent. Settle down, develop the other areas of your game, and learn to contribute from the role your coach places upon you. Basketball is more than scoring.
 
#28
#28
DaDuRkEr said:
Right on. He did get ripped a couple times going up which I am surethey are only counting as TO's which would have him on par, but not bad at all. He was solid on the glass. I love the conviction he attacks rebounds with. This 1/2 year will be huge for him. I agree 100% with that.
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Yea i believe 3 turnovers, one was a bad pass the other 2 I believe were rips down low as you referred to. Still not bad for a player who should be attending his HS prom. IMO 9 shots is not enough though and same for maymon, I don't know what he had I'm gonna guess probably 10 or so, I would like to see the offense run through these 2. Get them posted on each side of the blocks and feed em', make the defense do something, either double team or cover one one, either way we gain an advantage by putting the ball down low. I would like to see maymon and stokes getting atleast 15 shots a game if they are good shots capable of being made.
 
#29
#29
utvol372 said:
Best thing for Trae Golden, and the rest of the young chuckers that are prevalent in college hoops, is that there's a reason Chauncey Billups is a respected veteran with a ring, and Jamal Crawford is a journeyman, despite similar levels of talent. Settle down, develop the other areas of your game, and learn to contribute from the role your coach places upon you. Basketball is more than scoring.
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Exactly take pride in assists, not enough players do, I used to love slinging a pass down low for an easy lay up, made me jut as happy as scoring. Rajon rondo and Nash are 2 guys that come to mind first, and even still Jason Kidd, these guys look and look and look for other guys first. I have seen them all pass up open shots to drive the lane draw the d so they can drop it down to a big man.
 
#30
#30
bleedingTNorange said:
Exactly take pride in assists, not enough players do, I used to love slinging a pass down low for an easy lay up, made me jut as happy as scoring. Rajon rondo and Nash are 2 guys that come to mind first, and even still Jason Kidd, these guys look and look and look for other guys first. I have seen them all pass up open shots to drive the lane draw the d so they can drop it down to a big man.
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Got to watch Kidd on TNT last night. I still love watching him play. He passes the ball so effortlessly, and they're the correct passes. 2nd all time in assists, but is still 4,000 or so behind Stockton. Kinda like the Jerry Rice receptions record in the NFL...ungodly.

If we had a wing type player that had the range of offensive capabilities that Hopson had, for example, I don't think Trae would feel the need to try to put the team on his back. He could distribute the ball as needed and be able to rely on the post as his first option or if that's not there, feed it to the man on the outside. As it is right now, Tatum is the only person that's capable of both driving and shooting outside, and he's just not very consistent or good enough at that to be a reliable option. McRae could be that guy, but at this point he doesn't have it physically or mentally. He's only good for turnovers or bad shots when he faces better defenses, McBee can't get his own shot and isn't a legitimate threat to drive, and Richardson is a defensive-minded player that will need time to develop his offensive game. We've got a bunch of pieces, but we're missing the type of complimentary player that's needed to fill in the gaps we have on offense.
 
#32
#32
tenn fever said:
He is a scorer not a point guard.With that mentality he needs to be at the 2
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Maybe, but he's not in high school anymore. He's six feet tall. If you want to be an effective SG, you can't go to the rack with size like that. He's not athletic enough to compensate for his lack of size to be able to score consistently from anywhere on the floor. Take Kemba Walker, for example. He's about the same size, has an outside shot, and can get a good look around the rim because he either has outsmarts his defender or is athletic enough to create the separation needed to get his shot off against big men. In my opinion, Trae is a bigger asset at point for this team.
 
#33
#33
sdowell said:
i could not pick up the game last night on t v. did stokes even play in the overtime ? i listened to the vol network, but i did not hear his name called at all. i have a question if he did not play. thanks.
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According to the stats he played 11 - 13 - 2 minutes.
Of course they do round them off.
 
#35
#35
I personally don't want to see Golden become the permanent PG.
He's a natural 2 and would probably lead the conference at that position. He's fearless going to the rim and a decent long range shooter.
I'd like to see him get 2 years at his natural position.
That means we need to find a Juco PG in the off season.
We were in on Nino Jackson and Ray Lee.
Nino has ruled us out and Lee has gone the felony route.
All of the elites are gone, but there are a few 3 stars that might foot the bill until Landry gets here.
I'm not ruling out Stanton if Zo can get him back to where he was as a JR in HS averaging 7.5 assists per game. But he can't play until January.
 
#36
#36
Its not just Golden there are a few players who seem to take early wild shots on this team. Just like last season. They all need it drilled in their head that our offense should always go thru Maymon or Stokes on every single play and kicked back out if its not there. One one of those two should always touch the ball under the basket every play. Learn to pass the ball. And be patient.
 
#37
#37
polkalumn01 said:
Its not just Golden there are a few players who seem to take early wild shots on this team. Just like last season. They all need it drilled in their head that our offense should always go thru Maymon or Stokes on every single play and kicked back out if its not there. One one of those two should always touch the ball under the basket every play. Learn to pass the ball. And be patient.
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Absolutely agree. I do think, however, that this team has gotten better at not taking bad shots early in the shot clock. The time that they do take bad shots just seem to be magnified because they come in late game situations.
 
#38
#38
MannyD said:
Absolutely agree. I do think, however, that this team has gotten better at not taking bad shots early in the shot clock. The time that they do take bad shots just seem to be magnified because they come in late game situations.
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It has improved I think ccm has stressed it that's why when McRae jacked up a 30 footer with 32 seconds on the shot click and nobody all the way down the court yet h was pretty much done for the game.
 
#39
#39
calban said:
I personally don't want to see Golden become the permanent PG.
He's a natural 2 and would probably lead the conference at that position. He's fearless going to the rim and a decent long range shooter.
I'd like to see him get 2 years at his natural position.
That means we need to find a Juco PG in the off season.
We were in on Nino Jackson and Ray Lee.
Nino has ruled us out and Lee has gone the felony route.
All of the elites are gone, but there are a few 3 stars that might foot the bill until Landry gets here.
I'm not ruling out Stanton if Zo can get him back to where he was as a JR in HS averaging 7.5 assists per game. But he can't play until January.
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Do you see Goldens potential to be brighter at PG or SG?
 
#41
#41
calban said:
Average PG
Elite SG.
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Elite, huh? I disagree, but you may very well be right. We'll never know unless he gets the opportunity. Maybe I'm letting his assist numbers skew my perception of his abilities at the PG position. Regardless of position, I think Trae's a good player that wants to get better. He obviously put a lot into his conditioning and skill work and improved quite a bit during the off season. So, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and say he'll be improved in most areas of his game next year.
 
#42
#42
MannyD said:
Elite, huh? I disagree, but you may very well be right. We'll never know unless he gets the opportunity. Maybe I'm letting his assist numbers skew my perception of his abilities at the PG position. Regardless of position, I think Trae's a good player that wants to get better. He obviously put a lot into his conditioning and skill work and improved quite a bit during the off season. So, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and say he'll be improved in most areas of his game next year.
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Kid's a sophomore. I think people forget that.
Gets a lot of flak he doesn't deserve.
 
#45
#45
MannyD said:
Elite, huh? I disagree, but you may very well be right. We'll never know unless he gets the opportunity. Maybe I'm letting his assist numbers skew my perception of his abilities at the PG position. Regardless of position, I think Trae's a good player that wants to get better. He obviously put a lot into his conditioning and skill work and improved quite a bit during the off season. So, I'll give him the benefit of a doubt and say he'll be improved in most areas of his game next year.
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Kind of my train of thought. Leading the sec in assists as a sophomore playing PG for the first time says a lot to me about his ability.
 
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