Trickle Down Economics/Debt Deal

Don't work. When will the republicans learn trickle down economics has never and will never work? Instead of cutting taxes for the richest people out there, why not cut them more for the working middle class?

They took a simple thing that was raising the debt ceiling and they held the country hostage for months until they finally got what they wanted.. a lot of us middle class people should be worried with this new deal, its going to cause a lot of people to lose work.

And Obama is just as bad as the tea-party for letting them run all over him in front of the world. At this point the we'd be better off appointing Dave Ramsey Emergency Commander-in-Chief before the economy tanks for good.

And before you flame away atleast give me some evidence to the contrary if you would. I'm really not a fan of either party at the moment for what it's worth haha. The democrats didn't have any good ideas either.

Solid, and very very accurate. I would add, there was no debt crisis as well. They held the country hostage over a non-emergency.

For me, you know what to expect from the Republicans and Tea Party.

Obama the Capitulator is the real disappointment. He had real political muscle. He could have led from the front and taken on even the interests which paid his way to the White House. Instead, he will be the most disappointing president in US history at this rate.

The opposition has no candidate able to mount a challenge at this stage, and they could be beset by intranecine struggle.

Perhaps a second term Obama will be worthy of historic campaign?
 
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Solid, and very very accurate. I would add, there was no debt crisis as well. They held the country hostage over a non-emergency.

For me, you know what to expect from the Republicans and Tea Party.

Obama the Capitulator is the real disappointment. He had real political muscle. He could have led from the front and taken on even the interests which paid his way to the White House. Instead, he will be the most disappointing president in US history at this rate.

The opposition has no candidate able to mount a challenge at this stage, and they could be beset by intranecine struggle.

Perhaps a second term Obama will be worthy of historic campaign?

What does this even mean? What constitutes a debt crisis, in your opinion? We got downgraded. To what end did they hold the country hostage?
 
Solid, and very very accurate. I would add, there was no debt crisis as well. They held the country hostage over a non-emergency.

For me, you know what to expect from the Republicans and Tea Party.

Obama the Capitulator is the real disappointment. He had real political muscle. He could have led from the front and taken on even the interests which paid his way to the White House. Instead, he will be the most disappointing president in US history at this rate.

The opposition has no candidate able to mount a challenge at this stage, and they could be beset by intranecine struggle.

Perhaps a second term Obama will be worthy of historic campaign?

Seriously. Get a freaking dictionary. Wrong again. Also, I was wondering if altidore's status could be any further diminished. You have now taken him to absolute zero.
 
That's the thing though, my .70 posts per day is a little less than your almost 14. My heads getting tired just from today, so I can't imagine how bad yours hurts after 5 years of it. Damn.

You clearly took a lengthy vacation from he board (which we all appreciate). I never did.
 
You clearly took a lengthy vacation from he board (which we all appreciate). I never did.

Which we all regret. And did it ever occur to you that volnation will be here when you get back from, let's say, a speed dating session in your case? I'd be interested to know which is higher. Your income or your posts on volnation. I bet it's a tight race.
 
Which we all regret. And did it ever occur to you that volnation will be here when you get back from, let's say, a speed dating session in your case? I'd be interested to know which is higher. Your income or your posts on volnation. I bet it's a tight race.

Good to know that you share the gibbs quality of having zero support and still choosing to represent the majority. I know VN is always here when I get back. That's why I have so many freaking posts here. I remember the 5-6 threads I'm actively posting in and come back to 3-4 posts in each that warrant a response. It's not exactly a complicated format here.

As for the income, if we're talking monthly, you might be right.
 
What does this even mean? What constitutes a debt crisis, in your opinion? We got downgraded. To what end did they hold the country hostage?

It's unfortunate one of my recent posts got removed. I hope you got a chance to see my response on Chile, and my advice to you.

I know you are a bright young man, nbakerld. But 1.4% of GDP on debt servicing is not a crisis. The current deficit is high, but almost exclusively thanks to the banks and rating institutions' failures. Unemployment is the reason, almost exclusively neoliberal (Friedman) territory. I gave Obama hell for his capitulation and his first term failures to create jobs. We expect this kind of mismanagement from the Republicans.

The downgrade was staged - part of the political theater. In fact, we might have seen qui bono as it is being branded the "Tea Party Downgrade".

The crisis is unemployment, the great concentration of wealth into fewer and fewer hands, the crisis of private inefficiency in health care, the crisis now playing out in England over the lack of social and collective cohesion in bourgeois society, the vast sums spent on bourgeois crusades when children go hungry, when 100,000s flock to back-to-school giveaways complete with food.

There is / was no debt crisis. The real crisis is the constitution of bourgeois society.

You are a bright young man. Just as you parrot the bourgeois canard about Chile and Milton Friedman (where I didn't dismiss you, but destroyed the canard with the real record of the Chicago Boys and Pinochet's economy), the "downgrade" is nothing but another bourgeois tool. Get entwined in the real world outside the back door, and you will go far my friend.

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" The current deficit is high, but almost exclusively thanks to the banks and rating institutions' failures."

wtf are you talking about? treasury rates (i.e. debt interest rate) are at all time lows?

"The downgrade was staged - part of the political theater"

yes all those flaming right wingers in S&Ps new york offices.
 
Seriously. Get a freaking dictionary. Wrong again. Also, I was wondering if altidore's status could be any further diminished. You have now taken him to absolute zero.

It's going to be within their own party.

KPT, stepping on steamer as the "spelling monitor" on a sports blog.

:eek:lol:

Just when I think KPT cannot find a bigger nadir, he lowers the bar again! After losing all the Fulmer debates, and all the political debates, he has now managed to screw up as "Freak's Spelling Ninja."

Wha-chow!
 
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Good to know that you share the gibbs quality of having zero support and still choosing to represent the majority. I know VN is always here when I get back. That's why I have so many freaking posts here. I remember the 5-6 threads I'm actively posting in and come back to 3-4 posts in each that warrant a response. It's not exactly a complicated format here.

As for the income, if we're talking monthly, you might be right.

Drachmas? Lira?
 
It's going to be within their own party.

KPT, stepping on steamer as the "spelling monitor" on a sports blog.

:eek:lol:

Just when I think KPT cannot find a bigger nadir, he lowers the bar again! After losing all the Fulmer debates, and all the political debates, he has now managed to screw up as "Freak's Spelling Ninja."

Wha-chow!

You frequently present yourself as an enlightened intellectual and therefore hold up any statement you make as qualified, regardless of whether or not there is a shred of suppporting evidence. If while doing this you attempt to use a word that is far outside your scope, you damn well bet I'm going to call you on it.

The thread where I lost a Fulmer debate must have gotten buried somewhere under the mountain of polls that crushed every one of your thoughts on how the supermajority feels.
 
You frequently present yourself as an enlightened intellectual and therefore hold up any statement you make as qualified, regardless of whether or not there is a shred of suppporting evidence. If while doing this you attempt to use a word that is far outside your scope, you damn well bet I'm going to call you on it.

The thread where I lost a Fulmer debate must have gotten buried somewhere under the mountain of polls that crushed every one of your thoughts on how the supermajority feels.

Does that crap all the time. It's how we all figured out he's a useless blog reader and doesn't know shat from shinola.
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Good to know that you share the gibbs quality of having zero support and still choosing to represent the majority. I know VN is always here when I get back. That's why I have so many freaking posts here. I remember the 5-6 threads I'm actively posting in and come back to 3-4 posts in each that warrant a response. It's not exactly a complicated format here.

As for the income, if we're talking monthly, you might be right.

Whatever you have to tell yourself, man. I applaud you for brainwashing yourself into believing what you just said. Do you get off when you reach each 1,000 mark? You and NEOCON get together to re-enact his childhood experiences?
 
Whatever you have to tell yourself, man. I applaud you for brainwashing yourself into believing what you just said. Do you get off when you reach each 1,000 mark? You and NEOCON get together to re-enact his childhood experiences?

Ha. Me and Neocon? Might want to research that one a bit more. I guess the guy posting on the Internet forums to tell others how lame it is to post on Internet forums knows a thing or two about self delusion. Oh Shiz. I just spent thirty seconds posting that whilst on the crapper. I'm wasting my life away.
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The crisis is unemployment, the great concentration of wealth into fewer and fewer hands, the crisis of private inefficiency in health care, the crisis now playing out in England over the lack of social and collective cohesion in bourgeois society, the vast sums spent on bourgeois crusades when children go hungry, when 100,000s flock to back-to-school giveaways complete with food.

There is / was no debt crisis. The real crisis is the constitution of bourgeois society.

I thought the crisis was Kettle Chips?

Odd that the all giving power of National Health is not enough of the good stuff to prevent English riots...
 
Ha. Me and Neocon? Might want to research that one a bit more. I guess the guy posting on the Internet forums to tell others how lame it is to post on Internet forums knows a thing or two about self delusion. Oh Shiz. I just spent thirty seconds posting that whilst on the crapper. I'm wasting my life away.
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That's how we role Chevy.

You, me, we're simpatico.
 
I thought the crisis was Kettle Chips?

Odd that the all giving power of National Health is not enough of the good stuff to prevent English riots...

There use to be a time when the politics forum was kinda normal.

You had left wing loon Gibbs. Left wing loon LG, who saw racism in everything, but stated he was a middle of the roader. IPOrange climate change boy. Pissed off and searching Volatile who hates all things God. BMW driving pornstar look alike middle of the road slightly right fiscally BHmam. Middle of the road Jaytrain and Jay who sometimes I think are the same person but just in different levels of sobriety. right wing like my guns MG. Leave my money alone who lazy piece of chit democrat Neocon. And the muslims are coming, the muslims are coming GS.

Now some of the new guys debate stuff that makes Gibbs even look sane. Place is changing. Sad day when Gibbs can't even be the top troll in here with cheesey puffs.
 
I thought the crisis was Kettle Chips?

Odd that the all giving power of National Health is not enough of the good stuff to prevent English riots...

Are we really going here?

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Looks like the NHS held off the riots for 20 years or more. And no, that's not Rodney King aftermath.

What is happening on the streets of England is the failure of bourgeois society in HD technicolor. Teenagers with parents working shifts, marginalized on the edge of society, pummeled since birth that acquiring cheap tat is the nectar of the soul, think this is a wicked night out.

During the nadir of the "Special Period" in Cuba, demonstrations erupted in downtown Havana. Castro personally went unarmed and without escort to the riots. By the time he had finished talking, the rioters were chanting his name.

I wonder what would happen to David Cameron if he tried that? Boris got heckled - and that was just from the folks standing around surveying the damage.
 
imagine that, gibbs coming up with an unverifiable anecdote about what a nice guy Castro was
 
always blaming someone else for their actions. Personal responsibility is a lost concept to you huh?
 
strange this didn't happen in the US and is happening in your euro socialist paradises huh?

Uh, do I really need to give you a rundown on US riots 20th century?

To use logic the strength I normally see around here, the NHS probably held off these riots by 20 years or more.
 

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