Trooper

[west tn vol fan]

Originally posted by smokeyman15@Oct 24, 2005 10:16 PM
I voted yes becasue he has always has a running back ready to run. And like already said he always is in with players. the chest bumps just show the players like him aswell. I say give him a shot... :rock:

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That's right smokeman15!

 

[IBleedOrange24/7]

Originally posted by govols2316@Oct 24, 2005 11:04 PM
I voted yes. He is the second best coach on the team behind Chief.  I think that our next best coach after those two is Larry Slade. He took the weakest part of our D this year and has turned it into one of the best Secondarys in the country. We have only allowed 1 passing TD this year.

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Chief is the man, but Slade is catching a lot of grief around here. True our secondary is much improved, but a lot of credit must be given to our D-front. :bow:

I still question why we continue to play so soft, it has allowed to many 4-5 yard passes into 10-15 yard gains.

 

[utvolpj]

I have to also question what makes TT a great coach and OC? He is a position coach and OC is a whole different ballgame.

I don't think the offense gets better until CPF lets go and allows the OC (whoever it is) call his own plays. I bet there are many things RS wants to do but Fulmer overrides him. I don't think he has the faith in Sanders that he does others.

Look at Chavis. He has the freedom to do what he wants because CPF never played on that side of the ball. His results speak volumes about his coaching abilities.

CPF also let Cutcliffe have free reign over the play-calling and he concentrated on the OL. Look at the success our offense and OL enjoyed then.

Fulmer is letting RS take almost all of the heat for our misery on offense. If he is man enough to let that happen, he needs to be man enough to let him actually call his own plays. Sink or swim, it's the right thing to do.

All that said, I thought the gameplan this week was very solid. The plays were not the problem, the execution was. You can't blame that on the coaches. Just my :twocents:

To quote a famous bama alum, "That's all I have to say about that!"

 

[wilburnVol]

Originally posted by smokedog#3@Oct 24, 2005 7:23 PM
i believe he's by far the only offensive coach that should be retained.  i wouldn't even mind seeing him be offensive coordinator as long as phil let's him call the plays.

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Trooper is a nice guy, relates to the players, all that but he is way over his head to be a top line OC.

Trooper like Rodney Garner, has topped at where he is. His future is to a low Div A team as OC and maybe that will flourish for him.

 

[roswellvol]

Originally posted by wilburnVol@Oct 25, 2005 12:57 AM
Trooper is a nice guy, relates to the players, all that but he is way over his head to be a top line OC.

Trooper like Rodney Garner, has topped at where he is. His future is to a low Div A team as OC and maybe that will flourish for him.

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Trooper may still be a bit young and inexperienced to fully determine what his capabilities might be despite my agreeing with that statement. As this season has shown, only time and effort will tell. :dunno:

 

[bigdaddy]

Originally posted by GAVol@Oct 24, 2005 6:41 PM
So you don't like the clapping, but chest bumping qualifies TT to be the offensive coordinator.

I never understand what makes people think TT would be a good coordinator.  I think he's been a great addition to the staff, but I honestly have no earthly idea whether he would make a good OC.  What have you seen that makes you think TT should be calling plays?

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I have to agree. What has he done with the rushing offense. The team is 105 in rushing. What track record does he have for being the OC? Just becuase he jumps around and wears his hat backwards doesn't mean he will be a good OC. I am still not sold on the TT bandwagon, produce some results and then we will see. Let us not forget that he is also on the special teams coaching staff and he has done NOTHING to improve that either.

 

[TBALLVOL]

Trooper's forte is recruiting and motivation. He does not appear to be an x's and O's coach....Hey! He's head coach material!

 

[CHATTAVOL]

Originally posted by TBALLVOL@Oct 25, 2005 7:21 AM
Trooper's forte is recruiting and motivation. He does not appear to be an x's and O's coach....Hey! He's head coach material!

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Very much so. If you have plaied high school FB you know Trooper's coaching methods are the best for a player cause they are agressive and motivating. Like I said earlier "Trooper's the guy that gets the guys pumped up and gives the players the younger vibe in motivation." Along with that, he has great knowledge of the position he teaches. Know if he could call plays noone knows and i bet never will. Wish we had a few more coaches like him.

 

[bigdaddy]

We might need to move him to WR coach since that is were most of his experience is, and we need some help in that department big time. He spent 5 years as WR coach at Tulane and in 2001 had the nations top receiving threesome. We have a ton of WR here he could work with. He spent 1 year as a RB coach at NM and that is it for his prior RB exp. So if we want to utilize his talent, why not try him at WR coach? If he can produce results at WR and RB then see what he can do with QBs and then on to OC. Oh my god, what a novel concept. Actually hiring people into a job with a proven solid resume.

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by west tn vol fan@Oct 24, 2005 6:20 PM
Have you noticed how hard these backs run?  They fight for every yard they can get.  I know they have lost the ball some but Trooper has these backs running harder than any in a while.  I really think he should be promoted.  He is one hell of a motivator.

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Fumbling is in excusable and the coach has some responsibility for it.

 

[allvol]

Originally posted by Arclight@Oct 24, 2005 6:33 PM
But you have to understand THIS...CPF decides what the O will be. So the OC does not have free rein.

CPF prefers to run the ball--didn't you hear RS say that during a post-game radio interview at the end of one of the past games?

Just because you change OC's does not guarantee any better results.

Also, the O-team needs a lot more DESIRE than they currently have. Too many thoroughbreds in the barn with no desire.

This might be more fodder for those that want Randy Sanders gone, but I think Fulmer let go of the reins a bit to start this season. Shotgun sets with no back and 4/5 wideouts is not "CPF prefers to run the ball."

Last season, the Vols were much more conservative on offense while trying to break in true freshmen quarterbacks. The result was a trip to the SECCG and a 10-3 season where 2 of the losses were to the same undefeated Auburn team. The Vols had two 1,000-yard running backs and a much better offense than this season.

Minus the turnovers, the Vols looked much better and balanced on offense against Bama than they did against Georgia the previous game. Basically, CPF took back the reins and is changing the offense back to a more simplified, run-oriented offense.... changing offensive philosophy mid-season.

I look for a low-scoring game against South Carolina where the Vols rush for over 200 yards as a team. I also look for the Vols to win convincingly.

 

[therickbol]

This poll is ridiculous. He is a great recruiter who has shown nothing to us that would justify OC abilities.

 

[CHATTAVOL]

I think we are getting Trooper all wrong here. Hes at the position where he can give the most help.

 

[donsargegolf]

Originally posted by CHATTAVOL@Oct 25, 2005 12:55 PM
I think we are getting Trooper all wrong here. Hes at the position where he can give the most help.

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I hope we do NOT make the same mistake this time as we did with RS. Please state to the VN the qualifications Trooper Taylor has to be our offensive co-ordinator. This listed with past jobs, mentors and teams he co-ordinated.

 

[GAVol]

That's what I keep saying. Do people not realize what Randy Sanders' last job was? He was Trooper Taylor minus the chest bumps.

 

[bigdaddy]

That is the point I was getting at above. No need to have another RS type situation.

 

[cd12]

Maybe we can start grooming Andy Kelly!

 

[duct_tape_wallet]

Originally posted by roswellvol@Oct 25, 2005 2:47 AM
As this season has shown, only time and effort will tell. :dunno:

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I agree...from what I've seen of TT, I don't see why he shouldn't be given a shot to call some plays -- how do we know otherwise?

 

[volbreaker]

My twelve year old has been calling the plays for us for two years...that's not something he or I are proud of. Trooper brings an infectious enthusiasm and there is no way the decisions could be worse. So, give me his style, approachability, and passion any day over what we have now....problem is, what we have now is Phlitering. I'm sick of seeing the giddy press conferences after wins over the likes of UAB. Can't one of the SOB's get pissed and then show the Trooper high when things go really right instead of the constant appologetics? Trooper don't bump chests with half-assers does he?

 

[holdemvol]

Originally posted by duct_tape_wallet@Oct 26, 2005 9:48 PM
I agree...from what I've seen of TT, I don't see why he shouldn't be given a shot to call some plays -- how do we know otherwise?

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How do we know otherwise? This is the University of Tennessee we are talking about. If a change is made at OC someone needs to be brought in that is a proven OC at a smaller school, or a former head coach who can get it done. The reason we are talking about a new OC is because someone was given the job last time that was not qualified. Even if someone currently on staff was given a shot at it they need to be more than a RB coach in thier second year. Trooper was a great additon but I don't know what he has done to make anyone think he is OC material at this point in his career.

 

[OWB]

Originally posted by holdemvol@Oct 29, 2005 10:49 AM
How do we know otherwise?  This is the University of Tennessee we are talking about.  If a change is made at OC someone needs to be brought in that is a proven OC at a smaller school, or a former head coach who can get it done.  The reason we are talking about a new OC is because someone wqaas given the job last time that was not qualified.  Even if someone currently on staff was given a shot at it they need to be more than a RB coach in thier second year.  Trooper was a great additon but I don't know what he has done to make anyone think he is OC material at this point in his career.

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Yep, we need to take some serious applications if the OC position was ever to open up.