Trump Assassination Attempt(s)

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To me it takes a much larger leap of faith to think there was that much incompotence, vs there being complicity. Incompotence my ass, this was 101 stuff ignored...and they had 10-30 minutes to simply take Trump off the stage or keep him from going on the stage. This was NOT incompetence....

I struggle to believe that the 22 SS field agents that day were complicit. 40% of them were on the stage immediately and another 25% helped lead him off stage. Those who were willing to take a bullet did that part....

If you want to make an argument that the higher ups were complicit in knowingly putting him and the American public at risk by having such a small detail, I can listen to that argument and honestly, Im not sure I could refute it....
 
Trump has been blowing off any criticism by secret-service since it happened.


Interesting that MAGA is still making a big deal about it.

Your statement is misleading. He has blown off criticism of the field agents. His camp has (rightfully) destroyed Cheatle, Mayorkas, and the rest of the bureaucracy in SS/HSA at pretty much every turn...
 
The FF's were not all of the same opinion on those issues. If the conensus was that states should not be allowed to leave the union then that would be in the Constitution.
The argument of absence cuts both ways, because, of course, the constitution doesnt provide a way for states to leave the union either. The great fear at the time it was enacted was the empires of europe and being picked off one by one. There really isn't any legal way to leave the union and that's intentional.
 
Yikes. You clearly never learned what the Constitution is.

Yeah, that thing our founding fathers created back in the day... it created our federal government. Without it, our country is not a country.

COUNTRY​


"A country is a nation, a body of land with one government. Also, rural areas outside cities and towns are called the country."

There are many countries in the world: places that have a central government and a common identity. America was once just a bunch of colonies of England. It wasn't until they fought for independence from England that America became a country. Also, "the country" is any place that's away from cities and rural: the country has farms and open spaces. Country life is quieter than city life — except for the early morning roosters.
The Founders created this Nation with a federal government.
Out of necessity, with great trepidation, and with a deliberate eye towards limiting its size, scope, & power.

No, it is not “the country”.

-Jefferson & Madison would be aghast at what the Federal Government has grown to.
-Adams was a Federalist, and he would be outraged by what the State has been used for.
-Hamilton would blush over what has become, and he was the most ardent Federalist.
 
Your statement is misleading. He has blown off criticism of the field agents. His camp has (rightfully) destroyed Cheatle, Mayorkas, and the rest of the bureaucracy in SS/HSA at pretty much every turn...

Members of his camp kept citing to DEI hire for the female agent and mocking her but Trump defended her. That was my point. Not everything that is out there is on Trump. He has been trying to unite both sides.
 
Yikes. You clearly never learned what the Constitution is.

Yeah, that thing our founding fathers created back in the day... it created our federal government. Without it, our country is not a country.

COUNTRY​


"A country is a nation, a body of land with one government. Also, rural areas outside cities and towns are called the country."

There are many countries in the world: places that have a central government and a common identity. America was once just a bunch of colonies of England. It wasn't until they fought for independence from England that America became a country. Also, "the country" is any place that's away from cities and rural: the country has farms and open spaces. Country life is quieter than city life — except for the early morning roosters.
Tell me you've never picked up a historical writing without telling me you've never picked up a historical writing.
 
Both parties do this to target political advertising. To have differing political positions within families is quite common…..no big news here.
Unlike the blindly loyal Trumpists, I will admit you're right in what you say here. Back in the 70s, they called this mudslinging. It still goes on today. And as you said, neither party is innocent. However, the MAGA Trumpist are something One Step Beyond. Indicated yet again by their imagery of the Liarindent.
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What is wrong with wanting to make your own country great again? Should not everyone want to espouse to such “logic”?
In and of itself, it's an ideal endeavor. But with TrumPutin and his MAGAs it's just code for Make America White And Jim Crow Again (MAWAJCA). If it was really what it falsely implies, nearly 100% of voters would vote for Trumpon. I know I would without the slightest hesitation. Sadly, locally and otherwise, I've seen up close and personal the under belly of the beast. It's a sow nursing hateful, racist, bigot, and vile people.
 
In and of itself, it's an ideal endeavor. But with TrumPutin and his MAGAs it's just code for Make America White And Jim Crow Again (MAWAJCA). If it was really what it falsely implies, nearly 100% of voters would vote for Trumpon. I know I would without the slightest hesitation. Sadly, locally and otherwise, I've seen up close and personal the under belly of the beast. It's a sow nursing hateful, racist, bigot, and vile people.
Eh, you've gone deep end.

Sure a minority of them are vile people but that goes with any subgroup.




In the same energy and spirit now do Black Lives Matter......,..
 
Eh, you've gone deep end.

Sure a minority of them are vile people but that goes with any subgroup.




In the same energy and spirit now do Black Lives Matter......,..


I think it hurts that the ones who seem to show up at the MAGA rallies are made up largely of that minority portion you speak of.
 
Question….

Regarding the house you own and live in :

1). Would you allow people to move into your back yard and stay without your permission?
2). Do you try and improve the living conditions of your home?
3). Do you have home rules and if not adhered to you impose some corrective measure?

Just curious….
 
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I think it hurts that the ones who seem to show up at the MAGA rallies are made up largely of that minority portion you speak of.
I wouldn't know, never been to one or paid that much attention but I've seen some coverage of rallies that contradict that view....... But it could be a sample size issue.
 
Eh, you've gone deep end.

Sure a minority of them are vile people but that goes with any subgroup.




In the same energy and spirit now do Black Lives Matter......,..
He's been swimming in that end of the pool for quite some time. The problem is that he can't see it.
 

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