Trump Launches New Communications Platform months after Twitter, Facebook Ban

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@tvolsfan
tvolsfan said:
Show me the tweets/comments/etc. that indicate those three (or other prominent democrats) claimed the election was actually stolen in 2016. Go on, show me where they claimed Hillary got enough votes in enough states to reach 270 and was denied the White House due to election fraud. And no, saying Russia attempted to influence the election is not the same as saying the election was rigged.
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Here's a sampling:

"You can run the best campaign, you can even become the nominee, and you can have the election stolen from you," she said to cheers on the Los Angeles stop of her "Evening with the Clintons" tour with her husband, former President Bill Clinton.
"There is no effort to try to have an organized national response to that," Clinton said. "Social media is still an incredible channel to communicate information that is untrue and defamatory about someone else."
Clinton said Americans need to "make sure that the election is not interfered with in that 'sweeping and systemic' way that Mueller found it was in the prior election" and how to "protect our candidates from that."
"Because Trump took up so much of the oxygen if I said one thing about Trump in a speech and then 30 minutes of something about jobs, the one thing I said would be what would be covered," Clinton said of the dynamic in 2016. Hillary Clinton warns 2020 Democratic candidates of 'stolen' election

Hillary Clinton is still bitter about her presidential election loss in 2016.
“I was the candidate that they basically stole an election from,” Clinton said Monday on the New York Times podcast “Sway.”
“I was the candidate who won nearly three million more votes. So no matter how they cut it, it wasn’t the kind of win that people said, ‘OK, it wasn’t my candidate, but OK.’ This election is still front and center in people’s psyches. And people fight about it every day online, because there is a deep sense of unfairness and just dismissiveness toward his victory, and he knows it,” Clinton said.
Clinton blamed her loss in certain key states on former FBI Director James Comey’s letter Congress announcing the existence of emails under investigation. “I absolutely thought I was going to win. So did everybody else. I mean, I know people look back now and say, well, it wasn’t — we were going to win. We were absolutely going to win.”
Four Years Later, Bitter Hillary Clinton Claims 2016 Election Was 'Stolen' From Her

“No, it doesn’t kill me because he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” she said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories – he knows that – there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”
In June, former president Jimmy Carter used similar language to diminish Trump’s presidency. Carter said that in his view Trump lost the 2016 election and was put in office by the Russians. Asked if he considered Trump to be illegitimate, Carter said, “Based on what I just said, which I can’t retract.”
Clinton compared her election loss to “applying for a job and getting 66 million letters of recommendation and losing to a corrupt human tornado. And so I know that he knows that this wasn’t on the level. I don’t know that we’ll ever know what happened.”
Hillary Clinton: Trump is an ‘illegitimate president’

In May 2017, then-House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi tweeted, "Our election was hijacked. There is no question." Democrats aren't innocent bystanders and outright called Trump an illegitimate president in Aug 27 '20.

As did John Lewis: John Lewis captures spotlight after calling Trump illegitimate

As did Joe Biden, agreeing with a babbling woman about 'Russiaaaah!' that Trump is illegitimate: Biden 'absolutely' agrees with woman who blasts Trump presidency by calling it 'illegitimate'

One-third of congressional Dems boycotted the inauguration because 'Trump is illegitimate'.

Jan 6, 2017 - Dems called on VP Biden to not certify electors:


In a Nov. 11-14 2016 YouGov poll, 42% of Dem voters believed the election was rigged and 40% considered him illegitimate. https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.n...m3vw92us/tabs_HP_Rigged_Election_20161114.pdf
In March 2018, YouGov found 2/3rds (66%) of Democrats say Russia definitely or probably changed vote tallies to elect Trump. Russia's impact on the election seen through partisan eyes | YouGov
No discernible change in 2019; 64% of Dems think Russia changed vote tallies. https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/oo6kz6sf4b/econTabReport.pdf
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How do you not know these things, even as you imply others are silly morons?

Now, ban these "****** propagandist" Democrats or not?
 
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utvolpj said:
They can't trust Biden with a real press conf. That's stunning

What social media companies choose to do is really irrelevant
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That is not exactly an apples to apples comparison. The restrictions placed on the media's direct access to Biden have been self-imposed by his administration (Ron Klain). The restrictions placed on Trump's access to social media were handed down by the administrators of those platforms. Biden's restrictions were imposed because he is a hazard to himself, politically. Trump's restrictions were imposed because the administrators of those platforms have determined that his hyperbolic rhetoric is a hazard to others.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not exactly an apples to apples comparison. The restrictions placed on the media's direct access to Biden have been self-imposed by his administration. The restrictions placed on Trump's access to social media were handed down by the administrators of those platforms. Biden's restrictions were imposed because he is a hazard to himself, politically. Trump's restrictions were imposed because his hyperbolic rhetoric is viewed as a hazard to others.
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That's weak even for you.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not exactly an apples to apples comparison. The restrictions placed on the media's direct access to Biden have been self-imposed by his administration. The restrictions placed on Trump's access to social media were handed down by the administrators of those platforms. Biden's restrictions were imposed because he is a hazard to himself, politically. Trump's restrictions were imposed because his hyperbolic rhetoric is viewed as a hazard to others.
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No Trump was removed because of politics. He's not a threat to anyone. They want compliance and control

Biden is locked away because him being potus is a sick joke. Anyone supporting this admin should be embarrassed
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's reality. They are not the same thing.
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No they aren't the same thing, it's 100x worse that a sitting POTUS can't be trusted to give a press conference.

And Trump posting on a social media site isn't a danger to anyone.
 
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utvolpj said:
No Trump was removed because of politics. He's not a threat to anyone

Biden is locked away because him being potus is a sick joke. Anyone supporting this admin should be embarrassed
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That is not true. He was removed because of the 1/6 Capitol incursion... which led to violence.
 
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hog88 said:
No they aren't the same thing, it's 100x worse that a sitting POTUS can't be trusted to give a press conference.

And Trump posting on a social media site isn't a danger to anyone.
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The administrators of those social media platforms see it differently... and their evaluation counts more than yours does.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The administrators of those social media platforms see it differently... and their evaluation counts more than yours does.
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Well yeah, they run it and their opinions are the only ones that count. It doesn't make their opinions any less wrong or purely based on politics.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is not true. He was removed because of the 1/6 Capitol incursion... which led to violence.
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Bull ****.
That was an excuse to play politics. There are many more dead as a result of Maxine Waters call for violence but she wasn’t silenced. She wasn’t even condemned.
more do we only hold a standard for those elected officials we disagree with?
 
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Going to be painful to see the spinning after a term of this admin.
 
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Grand Vol said:
So, again, you're okay with someone you consider hazardous negotiating on behalf of the United States?
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There is a big difference in someone who is being kept at arm's length from the press, because he is prone to committing embarrassing gaffes which could undermine his messaging, versus someone who has been a Putin apologist the last four years, when he is obviously a hostile actor against the United States.

Biden is not my ideal choice... he is nobody's ideal choice. He was the best choice we had in the last election.
 
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