Trump on track for Supreme Court Victory on Census Citizenship Question

[Franklin Pierce]

The U.S. Supreme Court’s conservative majority on Tuesday appeared inclined to hand President Donald Trump a victory on his administration’s plan to add a citizenship question to the 2020 census, a move opponents call a Republican effort to deter immigrants from taking part.

During arguments in the closely watched case, conservative justices rallied in defense of the administration’s stated justification for using the citizenship question in the decennial population count, while their liberal counterparts remained skeptical.

The court has a 5-4 conservative majority. Among the conservative justices indicating support toward the administration’s stance were Trump’s two appointees, Brett Kavanaugh and Neil Gorsuch, as well as Chief Justice John Roberts, considered the court’s pivotal vote.

Trump on track for Supreme Court victory on census citizenship question

 

[volfanjustin]

Good. I can't really believe this is even an issue, anything for extra democrat voters I guess

 

[FLVOL69]

 

[ClearwaterVol]

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If you think this is winning, you really must lose a lot.

 

[FLVOL69]

If you think this is winning, you really must lose a lot.

Says the Hilary supporter, damn straight it’s a win.

 

[lawgator1]

Says the Hilary supporter, damn straight it’s a win.

Out of curiosity, why?

 

[C-south]

Out of curiosity, why?

Why do we have a census?

 

[NorthDallas40]

If you think this is winning, you really must lose a lot.

It is a win. Census data has many uses several of which are tied to services funding. If they aren’t citizens they can’t vote so we don’t need them counted there. And if they aren’t citizens we don’t need to be wasting funds on support for them there either. I see no reason to count them at all frankly.

 

[lawgator1]

Why do we have a census?

He said its "a win." I am asking how? What does he think it would accomplish? I mean, even the administration acknowledges it will cause the count to be off because a significant number of illegals, or people living in households with illegals, will not reply to the survey out of fear it will lead to them being arrested.

So if that is the case -- and as I say everyone acknowledges that it is -- then what do we gain of value sufficient to outweigh that negative effect on the accuracy of the census?

 

[lawgator1]

It is a win. Census data has many uses several of which are tied to services funding. If they aren’t citizens they can’t vote so we don’t need them counted there. And if they aren’t citizens we don’t need to be wasting funds on support for them there either. I see no reason to count them at all frankly.

At least you are honest. I will give you that.

 

[FLVOL69]

It is a win. Census data has many uses several of which are tied to services funding. If they aren’t citizens they can’t vote so we don’t need them counted there. And if they aren’t citizens we don’t need to be wasting funds on support for them there either. I see no reason to count them at all frankly.

Very eloquently stated my man, you hit the nail on the head.

Out of curiosity, why?

Surely you jest

 

[FLVOL69]

At least you are honest. I will give you that.

And accurate

 

[ClearwaterVol]

It is a win. Census data has many uses several of which are tied to services funding. If they aren’t citizens they can’t vote so we don’t need them counted there. And if they aren’t citizens we don’t need to be wasting funds on support for them there either. I see no reason to count them at all frankly.

You think we might want an accurate count of how many people are in the country?

 

[volfanjustin]

You think we might want an accurate count of how many people are in the country?

Illegals? No. But I do know why you all want them counted

 

[NorthDallas40]

At least you are honest. I will give you that.

I’ve never said otherwise LG. I’m 100% against using federal or state tax dollars to support non citizens. We have a bucket for that. It’s called “foreign aid” and I’d like to see that slashed too.

 

[C-south]

He said its "a win." I am asking how? What does he think it would accomplish? I mean, even the administration acknowledges it will cause the count to be off because a significant number of illegals, or people living in households with illegals, will not reply to the survey out of fear it will lead to them being arrested.

So if that is the case -- and as I say everyone acknowledges that it is -- then what do we gain of value sufficient to outweigh that negative effect on the accuracy of the census?

Maybe we should go house to house and do it ourselves and deport every last one right after we make extreme changes to our asylum and immigration laws.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You think we might want an accurate count of how many people are in the country?

Nope. Couldn’t care if they have no business being here in the first place. Legal residents have a basis for being here and they can reply and be counted. They simply check “no” they are not a citizen. But they have a legal standing.

If that question on the census makes or breaks your choice on responding I’d guess odds are you have no reason being here in the first place.

 

[FLVOL69]

At least you are honest. I will give you that.

How may extra representatives are there in congress due to illegals adding to the census? All I want is fair and honest representation, I know why you’re in such a tizzy over it, it sure as hell has nothing to do with compassion for your fellow man, it’s all about votes .

 

[hog88]

He said its "a win." I am asking how? What does he think it would accomplish? I mean, even the administration acknowledges it will cause the count to be off because a significant number of illegals, or people living in households with illegals, will not reply to the survey out of fear it will lead to them being arrested.

So if that is the case -- and as I say everyone acknowledges that it is -- then what do we gain of value sufficient to outweigh that negative effect on the accuracy of the census?

I think you just explained why it is a win.

 

[VolStrom]

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't every American citizen required to have a social security number within a year of birth? Count the number of SS numbers subtract the people that die and add the number of births and there is your legal population.

 

[hog88]

You think we might want an accurate count of how many people are in the country?

We need an accurate account of citizens since the census is used for apportionment.

 

[1972 Grad]

We need an accurate account of citizens since the census is used for apportionment.

How else can California add more Representatives?

 

[AM64]

You think we might want an accurate count of how many people are in the country?

Sure, but we also need to know how many are citizens ... that affects the number of seats in the house of representatives among other things. As long as we are a representative government we should know how many actual citizens - not how many inhabitants - are being represented. Wanna bet a lot of illegal friendly locales are less interested in illegals if they don't count?

 

[AM64]

Maybe I'm wrong, but isn't every American citizen required to have a social security number within a year of birth? Count the number of SS numbers subtract the people that die and add the number of births and there is your legal population.

Good point. Now if we could just find a way to figure out who is using duplicate and "dead" SSNs and investigate. I'm guessing 18 year old hispanic "newborns" aren't rare either.

 

[luthervol]

How else can California add more Representatives?

TX, FL, and GA are going to take a hit.
U.S. unauthorized immigrant population estimates by state, 2016
TX plus FL is far more than CA.