Trump's Taxes

[hog88]

... or maybe some of us take loan applications for a living? These loans by Deutsche defy good business sense. Consider this: In November of 2008, Trump defaulted on a $640 million loan from Deutsche - $40 million of which were under Personal Guarantee. In classic Trump fashion, he sued them for $3 billion, alleging (by way of some absurd logic) that they were partially responsible for the global financial crisis, and by extension Trump's inability to repay the loan. It is beyond comprehension that they have continued to loan him hundreds of millions of dollars since then. It is suspicious.

I'm just spitballing here but I would bet a years salary that you have never worked an application for a multi-million dollar development project.

And the lawsuit against Deutsche turned out to be a smart business move, they extended the loan another 5 years.

 

[FLVOL_79]

So much chest beating and feather preening in here when youre actually just waffle stomping your own ignorance and sad desperation down the drain ...

 

[FLVOL_79]

I'm just spitballing here but I would bet a years salary that you have never worked an application for a multi-million dollar development project.

And the lawsuit against Deutsche turned out to be a smart business move, they extended the loan another 5 years.

Most dims live in a bubble and can't see past their rectums

 

[hog88]

Kinda like when the Russians stole the DNC and RNC emails and plastered the DNC's all over wikileaks. Should we expect criminal charges against wikileaks anytime soon?

You do know that Assange in the middle of extradition hearings as we speak don't you?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I mean, this isn't breaking news. What do they have to gain from looking at his taxes?

Obfuscation.

 

[Septic]

Both can be true.... they are not wholesome, morally centered patriots and they are being unreasonably and unfairly persecuted

You must be one of the people that fascinates me.

Do you believe that Obama was also unreasonably and unfairly persecuted by trump for "only" paying 20% when he paid <1%?

 

[Mick]

Both can be true.... they are not wholesome, morally centered patriots and they are being unreasonably and unfairly persecuted

I think what you are trying to say but can't is, "people are showing examples time and time again of Trump's moral failings but I can't accept them being right".

 

[hog88]

If he defaulted on money you loaned him, then sued you claiming it was your fault while his businesses continue to lose money and his personal wealth dwindles, would you still loan him money? There’s only one explanation...
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how much are the properties securing his loans worth?

FYI the banks aren't going to be losing any money.

 

[hog88]

Your post history on wikileaks is interesting to say the least, hog.

How about putting some context in that exchange? Or do you work for CNN?

 

[volbeast33]

You must be one of the people that fascinates me.

Do you believe that Obama was also unreasonably and unfairly persecuted by trump for "only" paying 20% when he paid <1%?

Yes, I believe the republicans played similar games with Obama.... not quite to this level but they most definitely did

 

[Mick]

You do know that Assange in the middle of extradition hearings as we speak don't you?

Not for the DNC hacks or leaking the emails.

Oh, you didn't know that did you.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I'm just spitballing here but I would bet a years salary that you have never worked an application for a multi-million dollar development project.

And the lawsuit against Deutsche turned out to be a smart business move, they extended the loan another 5 years.

You would be correct. I strictly do consumer lending. Home equity lines of credit are my specialty.

 

[BigOrangeD]

The Clinton Foundation is not under criminal investigation. The only foundation that I know was under investigation was the trump foundation, and that foundation had to pay a $2MM settlement.

New York Times: John Durham has turned attention to FBI's investigation into Clinton Foundation

 

[Mick]

How about putting some context in that exchange? Or do you work for CNN?

I linked to your quote so context is easy for anyone interested.

 

[Sandman 423]

uh, yeah.

Still fascinates me when I see people truly bought into the fact that the Trumps are wholesome, morally centered patriots that are simply being unreasonably and unfairly persecuted.

You don't get that kind of money without being shady.I still fascinates me how some people can only see it when it's the other guy.

 

[volbeast33]

I think what you are trying to say but can't is, "people are showing examples time and time again of Trump's moral failings but I can't accept them being right".

It’s hard to tell which ones are real and which ones aren’t when so many of them are false or nonsense.... kinds like the democrats that cried wolf

 

[AirVol]

I hope Joe uses this line tomorrow night

He’ll gaffe it up. “I’ve had more sex in 180 years....”

 

[PointGuard]

One thing. Tax Evasion is illegal. Tax Planning is legal. This article has not suggested that Trump did anything illegal.

He's pushing the envelope with some gray areas for sure and the optics arent good but I dont see tax evasion based on the NYT article so far

At what point in Trump's career do you want to make the case against him if you're the IRS or the Southern district of NY? You're stuck with going back no further that the respective statute of limitations for each of the jurisdictions. Criminal is 6 years. Then they match up to just Michael Cohen's testimony. No deed to address Eric & Donny, Jr.'s bragging that they have more Russian money then they know what to do with in 2015 (no doubt a cause for the FBI to take a look at Russian involvement) So BigOrange Mpjo the facts make the case that Trump did violate the law. Bank fraud is a felony. Insurance fraud is a felony These charges will be federal and state if pursued

Trump deducted $95,000 for Ivanka's hair and nail salon appointments. Trump deducted $70,000 for his own hair expenses. Just two absurd examples of illegal deductions. These charges will be by the U.S. Treasury if pursued.

On the income side, Trump had $73 million in foreign source income, I think two years in a row since becoming President. (These first breaking news reports have a way of changing with the passing of time as more facts/clarifications arrive) The issue is where did the income come from and what did Trump do while serving as President to earn that income? Did he put the interest of American Citizens and the protecting the Constitution first? - - - or did he put the interests of those foreign sources providing him with $73 million of income first.? Trump having acted the way he has acted since the late 1970's its easy for me to be confident he sold YOU his supporter out. That is treason.

Trump has had the good fortune, until his impeachment, of never being held accountable for a damn thing. And thanks to a Republican Senate he escaped penalty for that one time he was held accountable by the House. The Senate refused to even conduct a fair trial.

No matter what, Trump will be Pardoned if he wins the re-election. The one glimmer of hope for those of us who believe in the true Rule of Law - - Pardons don't effect state law crimes. Trump may well yet serve time in a New York State prison. Donny Jr., Eric and Ivanka, too.

An no one has reported on the ongoing investigation of what happened to the $100million of the 2016 Campaign. Ang then of course there is the 2020 Campaign fund.

 

[Sandman 423]

I linked to your quote so context is easy for anyone interested.

ie. someone else make my argument for me.

 

[Mick]

It’s hard to tell which ones are real and which ones aren’t when so many of them are false or nonsense.... kinds like the democrats that cried wolf

No, like the Republicans Trump nut jockeys that cried "unfairly persecuted ".

 

[volbeast33]

No, like the Republicans Trump nut jockeys that cried "unfairly persecuted ".

I don’t like this stuff on either side..... we need to worry about real issues

 

[lostsheep]

At what point in Trump's career do you want to make the case against him if you're the IRS or the Southern district of NY? You're stuck with going back no further that the respective statute of limitations for each of the jurisdictions. Criminal is 6 years. Then they match up to just Michael Cohen's testimony. No deed to address Eric & Donny, Jr.'s bragging that they have more Russian money then they know what to do with in 2015 (no doubt a cause for the FBI to take a look at Russian involvement) So BigOrange Mpjo the facts make the case that Trump did violate the law. Bank fraud is a felony. Insurance fraud is a felony These charges will be federal and state if pursued

Trump deducted $95,000 for Ivanka's hair and nail salon appointments. Trump deducted $70,000 for his own hair expenses. Just two absurd examples of illegal deductions. These charges will be by the U.S. Treasury if pursued.

On the income side, Trump had $73 million in foreign source income, I think two years in a row since becoming President. (These first breaking news reports have a way of changing with the passing of time as more facts/clarifications arrive) The issue is where did the income come from and what did Trump do while serving as President to earn that income? Did he put the interest of American Citizens and the protecting the Constitution first? - - - or did he put the interests of those foreign sources providing him with $73 million of income first.? Trump having acted the way he has acted since the late 1970's its easy for me to be confident he sold YOU his supporter out. That is treason.

Trump has had the good fortune, until his impeachment, of never being held accountable for a damn thing. And thanks to a Republican Senate he escaped penalty for that one time he was held accountable by the House. The Senate refused to even conduct a fair trial.

No matter what, Trump will be Pardoned if he wins the re-election. The one glimmer of hope for those of us who believe in the true Rule of Law - - Pardons don't effect state law crimes. Trump may well yet serve time in a New York State prison.

Makes sense to me...but, as we know, it's all just "fake news."

 

[hog88]

Not for the DNC hacks or leaking the emails.

Oh, you didn't know that did you.

What difference does it make? Maybe the attorneys involved think it's mor likely to get a favorable ruling on extradition on the other charges. If he's extradited they can charge him then. OR maybe it's because the prosecutors don't think there is enough evidence to charge him with those hacks?

 

[Septic]

I mean, this isn't breaking news. What do they have to gain from looking at his taxes?

His whole persona is built on a foundation of self made wealth yet he appears terrified to let anyone look behind the curtain, it shouldn't be a surprise that dodging his challengers would pique curiosity.

For someone who's ego seems to be fed by making his detractors look like idiots, it's odd that he wouldn't put up and instead shuts up when it comes to the very essence of the success he implies is at his core.

 

[Sandman 423]

At what point in Trump's career do you want to make the case against him if you're the IRS or the Southern district of NY? You're stuck with going back no further that the respective statute of limitations for each of the jurisdictions. Criminal is 6 years. Then they match up to just Michael Cohen's testimony. No deed to address Eric & Donny, Jr.'s bragging that they have more Russian money then they know what to do with in 2015 (no doubt a cause for the FBI to take a look at Russian involvement) So BigOrange Mpjo the facts make the case that Trump did violate the law. Bank fraud is a felony. Insurance fraud is a felony These charges will be federal and state if pursued

Trump deducted $95,000 for Ivanka's hair and nail salon appointments. Trump deducted $70,000 for his own hair expenses. Just two absurd examples of illegal deductions. These charges will be by the U.S. Treasury if pursued.

On the income side, Trump had $73 million in foreign source income, I think two years in a row since becoming President. (These first breaking news reports have a way of changing with the passing of time as more facts/clarifications arrive) The issue is where did the income come from and what did Trump do while serving as President to earn that income? Did he put the interest of American Citizens and the protecting the Constitution first? - - - or did he put the interests of those foreign sources providing him with $73 million of income first.? Trump having acted the way he has acted since the late 1970's its easy for me to be confident he sold YOU his supporter out. That is treason.

Trump has had the good fortune, until his impeachment, of never being held accountable for a damn thing. And thanks to a Republican Senate he escaped penalty for that one time he was held accountable by the House. The Senate refused to even conduct a fair trial.

No matter what, Trump will be Pardoned if he wins the re-election. The one glimmer of hope for those of us who believe in the true Rule of Law - - Pardons don't effect state law crimes. Trump may well yet serve time in a New York State prison.

Wow, you are really excited about this one. Do you have any reservations throwing this out there with no proof?

Also, since you believe in the rule of law which politician do you believe follows it?