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BowlBrother85 said:
That is a rare statement from Mueller's office and a very "lawyer-ish" denial. Hard to know what exactly to make of it.
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Let me make sure I understand. Last night we were pretty certain Trump was guilty of an impeachable offense based on unsubstantiated hearsay.

But we cannot be sure what to make of an official statement from the man who was supposedly responsible for digging up said allegations.

Am I understanding correctly?
 
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Mueller team disputes BuzzFeed report claiming Trump told Cohen to lie

Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office on Friday issued an extraordinary statement disputing a bombshell news report claiming President Trump directed Michael Cohen to lie about the timing of discussions over a proposed Trump Tower project in Moscow.

“BuzzFeed’s description of specific statements to the Special Counsel’s Office, and characterization of documents and testimony obtained by this office, regarding Michael Cohen’s Congressional testimony are not accurate,” Peter Carr, a spokesman for Mueller’s office, said Friday.

The statement is remarkable in that Mueller's team rarely issue statements in response to news stories. But BuzzFeed's story sparked immense interest from Democrats, who called for renewed investigations and even suggested the allegations could form the basis for impeachment proceedings.

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Mueller team disputes BuzzFeed report claiming Trump told Cohen to lie
 
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Velo Vol said:
The fact that it said anything is surprising.
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Just guessing, but it sounds like Mueller's office believes that Trump did ask Cohen to lie to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow project ,but they don't have corroborating evidence from the Trump organization as the BuzzFeed report alleged.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That is a rare statement from Mueller's office and a very "lawyer-ish" denial. Hard to know what exactly to make of it.
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DC_Vol said:
It stunk when it came out last night. It won’t be much of a surprise when it turns out to be a dud.

The real question is who leaked it. And why was Buzzfeed the chosen outlet?

It was fun watching the frenzy, though.
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It effectively creates the notion that the leak didn't come from the Special Counsel, while also being vague enough to really not know much else.

Probably enough for Trump to start mouthing off.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I’d bet money it didn’t come from Mueller’s office.

Nothing Cohen has is material to Trump/Russia or Mueller would block him from speaking to Congress.
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Bingo. But somebody put it out there and fed it to a clown journalism operation.

If I had to guess, I’d lean toward a leak sting. It’s what I was hinting at last night.
 
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DC_Vol said:
Let me make sure I understand. Last night we were pretty certain Trump was guilty of an impeachable offense based on unsubstantiated hearsay.

But we cannot be sure what to make of an official statement from the man who was supposedly responsible for digging up said allegations.

Am I understanding correctly?
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We don't know what to make of that statement because it is purposely ambiguous. Mueller's office does not dispute the core allegation made in the report - that Trump asked Cohen to lie to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow Project. It targets "specific statements" and the "characterization of documents" from the BuzzFeed report. Fox News is getting just as "far ahead of their skis" by interpreting this as a full exoneration of Trump, as we were last night in assuming that there was corroboration.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
We don't know what to make of that statement because it is purposely ambiguous. Mueller's office does not dispute the core allegation made in the report - that Trump asked Cohen to lie to Congress about the Trump Tower Moscow Project. It targets "specific statements" and the "characterization of documents" from the BuzzFeed report. Fox News is getting just as "far ahead of their skis" by interpreting this as a full exoneration, as we were last night in assuming that there was corroboration.
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It’s just funny to me.

A statement with no substantiated evidence that amounted to nothing more than hearsay was taken as gospel.

But an official statement from the prosecution’s office contradicting the dubious article is parsed to draw conclusions that support the very source the statment invalidates.

Makes sense, brother!
 
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Hunerwadel said:
If BuzzFeed's statements aren't accurate it can only mean it's worse than we think.
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I can imagine a situation where that is true. The description of the evidence could be false, but the evidence still exists.

Enough for Honest Don to put his foot in his mouth, bigly.
 
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DC_Vol said:
It’s just funny to me.

A statement with no substantiated evidence that amounted to nothing more than hearsay was taken as gospel.

But an official statement from the prosecution’s office contradicting the dubious article is parsed to draw conclusions that support the very source the statment invalidates.

Makes sense, brother!
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The problem is, that statement from Mueller's office does not specifically state what information it is contradicting. That statement could have "categorically" denied everything contained within the BuzzFeed report. It didn't. They split hairs in a very "lawyer-ly" fashion.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The problem is, that statement from Mueller's office does not specifically state what information it is contradicting. That statement could have "categorically" denied everything contained within the BuzzFeed report. It didn't. They split hairs.
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Yes they must have issued it to muddy the water. I didn’t even think of that angle.
 
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OMFG the mental gymnastics you numbnuts are going thru trying to rationalize how this isn’t a straight up dagger into the heart of this BS story is priceless!! Please keep it up for the rest of the evening!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
OMFG the mental gymnastics you numbnuts are going thru trying to rationalize how this isn’t a straight up dagger into the heart of this BS story is priceless!! Please keep it up for the rest of the evening!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I suggest you read the statement again because you are seeing something that isn't there. It was written in a vague prose to say the least. That is how lawyers write when they want to dispute "something" in a report but not "everything". That was not a categorical denial of the BuzzFeed report.
 
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Wonder if we’ll see a libel suit out if this if they don’t come thru with a full redaction of the story. That would be freaking hilarious. 😂
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
OMFG the mental gymnastics you numbnuts are going thru trying to rationalize how this isn’t a straight up dagger into the heart of this BS story is priceless!! Please keep it up for the rest of the evening!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Good thing we have an honest fellow like Mueller to say, "that ain't accurate". I'm having fun imagining the mental gymnastics that Trump is going through as a result.
 
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