Two car tangos

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Anyone want to change their opinions of this stuff after watching the Nationwide race? Before that crap debris caution with 30 or whatever laps to go the leaders were about to catch a group of cars that went up to the 9th place car. 7th and 8th were 24 seconds behind. It's just like Michigan and California now except for a couple of two car packs running together.

If NASCAR don't tell them in the drivers meeting in the morning no pushing all the way around then this may very well be the first 500 I've not watched in my 30 years.

I EXPECT California, Michigan, cookie cutters, to have periods of boring racing and some overall boring races. But not the Daytona 500. So disappointed.

And to anyone that says I'm just upset because I want to see a 30 car crash or the big one don't have a clue. I just want them all to be able to run together and 2 cars not lap most of the field in an extended run like might happen tomorrow.

Either NASCAR will do something and address this in the drivers meeting in the morning or they'll be throwing a bunch of debris cautions to keep two cars from gapping the field by 30 seconds. And if they don't try to address this I'll be very interested to see how the ratings of the race plummet tomorrow through the event as it gets more and more strung out.
 
#2
#2
Sadly, this is what RP racing has become. I do not like it at all but the good ole days of REAL racing is over. I will have the race on tomorrow, but as far as being on the edge of my seat, that probably aint gonna happen. It has gotten to where you can watch something else until there are 5 to go and then watch, you wont miss a thing.
 
#3
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.....Don't really see how this is worse than "freight train" racing.
 
#5
#5
I just really don't have much of a problem with it. You'll have to get your pack racing fix at Dega, it's not happening at Daytona this year.
 
#6
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I can't see how telling the drivers not to pair up would work. If it is not cheating, overly dangerous, but does give a speed advantage, they are going to do it. As long as Dale, Jr. isn't in danger of being lapped, don't expect more debris cautions than normal.

Danika Patrick really showed her inexperience today, led Bowyer to the lead, but didn't realize she was to switch positions, and didn't know how to switch positions. As a result she quickly dropped back to near the back of the lead lap. Then no one would pair up with her, and she ended up losing a lap.
 
#7
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I don't care for this type of drafting. Even though there were alot of lead changes(35 I believe), It really wasn't exciting untill the last restart. I def won't be beating the door down to get home to watch the first half of the race.
 
#9
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I can't see how telling the drivers not to pair up would work. If it is not cheating, overly dangerous, but does give a speed advantage, they are going to do it. As long as Dale, Jr. isn't in danger of being lapped, don't expect more debris cautions than normal.

Danika Patrick really showed her inexperience today, led Bowyer to the lead, but didn't realize she was to switch positions, and didn't know how to switch positions. As a result she quickly dropped back to near the back of the lead lap. Then no one would pair up with her, and she ended up losing a lap.

Yeah, I don't think she ever learned how to back up to the car behind her. It seems like dale jr would have worked on it with her in one of the pratices before the race.
 
#10
#10
I kinda prefer it, I'd rather they dance around then sit back at 27th in line and make laps.

me too. it's going to be two car runs to the front all day. the last 50 laps are going to be ridiculous.

i don't recall the last race i watched where it kept my attention the whole time.
 
#11
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Yeah, I don't think she ever learned how to back up to the car behind her. It seems like dale jr would have worked on it with her in one of the pratices before the race.

Well you know what the drivers are doing as I also do, and we aren't even there. Is she so busy being the "Danika" that she hasn't actually picked up the procedure? She came on the radio when Bowyer was trying to switch and asked does he want to lead now? I don't know what to do, you'll have to tell me what I should do.
 
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me too. it's going to be two car runs to the front all day. the last 50 laps are going to be ridiculous.

i don't recall the last race i watched where it kept my attention the whole time.

Tune back in at the commercials, because there might have been a wreck.

I'm also thinking that Green/White/Checked will be cut down...2 guys with good cars win
 
#13
#13
I like it. Not as much as I liked Daytona before the repaving (needed to be done, obviously) where they got spread out due to the lack of grip on the track and actually having to let off through the turns, but it still beats everyone being stuck together in a huge pack just waiting to be wrecked. I didn't hate the big packs, but I like the separation they can get now, two cars at a time anyway.

Also don't see cars being lapped as a bad thing. If you can't pick it up and keep up with the leaders then tough shat. I don't think the drivers will have to worry about losing a lap too much tomorrow. NASCAR won't let their biggest race get strung out too often without bunching them back up with a few show cautions, especially near the end.
 
#14
#14
I'm getting a laugh right now, not really as much this thread but the 150 thread, the
"This ain't racin" "I ain't watchin the 500 if they don't fix this crap" yadda yadda.

The way it seems now is there's lots of swapping involved, and wheel handlers are going to party up in lieu of riding with draft riders, I think it stacks up to be the best 500 in a while, I'm editing some picks too ! :p
 
#15
#15
I don't really care for it but I'm sure I'll end up watching it. Jr showed that you don't have to try to stay up front and do the "2 car tango" all day. You can ride around in the back and then start to make your run for the front in the last qtr of the race as long as you stay on the lead lap.
 
#16
#16
It was strange to see only 12 cars on the lead lap at the end of a Daytona race...
 
#17
#17
I'm not in love with the new style, but I still think it's better than the big packs. Racing three wide all the time was just asking for a wreck, and "The Big One" almost always happened. It always made me nervous that someone would get hurt. Anyone can still get hurt with this new racing too, but it seems less likely.
 
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Nascar added an extra half of opening on the grill. This could help limit engine fatalities.

Good. I wasn't really liking the swapping thing. It was almost certainly going to lose someone the 500 because their drafting partner was either going to blow up, or they would both lose a ton of momentum having to make the exchange.
 
#21
#21
Some of you are out of your mind. Last lap passes in the Shootout, Nationwide, and truck races, along with an exciting 500. this is the best racing I've seen at Daytona since before the restrictor plates.
 
#24
#24
I was bored with the racing all week however in the end it was exciting and not much has changed. You can still channel surf and catch em coming out of the last turn.
 
#25
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I'm afraid you will start seeing pairs fall back off the lead pack to stay out of trouble but stay on the lead lap then go to the front at the end.

This was going on a few years ago when Gordon and Johnson would hang back the whole race and I believe Dale Jarrett was the first to do this. I could see even more of this now that you only need two cars together and a lot of good cars wrecked yesterday.
 

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