U.S. military told to get ready in Korea standoff

[BoseefusTheVol]

So the new Islamic indoctrination center will be a "holy site?"

600 ft is two blocks?? It was near enought to ground zero (an offensive term to me) that the previous building had to be torn down. How about if he just put it in Mecca where no Christian, Jew or any other non muslim is allowed to set foot??

I recently listened to what a former muslim convert to Christiantianity had to say and he said that what Faisal Abdul Rauf says in English and what he says in Arabic are two differnent things, which is no surprise to me.

Is this neocon idiocy??

Pajamas Media The Ground Zero Mosque Developer: Muslim Brotherhood Roots, Radical Dreams

If so, I will come back with something that may meet your holy liberal approval.

I suppose also you are in favor of the facility?

I can't understand why any American wouldn't consider this a slap in the face, adding insult to injury.

Calling it the Cordoba House is doubly insulting.

You're good at interpreting liberal double speak, maybe you can explain it to me.

BTW, I did notice the city council approved the project.

Gsvol, if you see it that way, that's fine.

I see it as a slap in the face of the terrorists... It proves to them and the rest of our enemies that we value and cherish our rights... Freedom of religion.
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[JTrainDavis]

this thread almost made it to 100 posts that were generally either interesting or informative before degenerating into off-topic bickering.

I'm going to unofficially declare that a modern day record for the politics forum.
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[gsvol]

You have your facts wrong, I suggest you read a little more about his involvment in the whole NK affair. MacArthur and AL Senior wanted Nukes dropped along the border and it came close to happening.

While that may be true I maintian that was merely political posturing by Gore Sr who knew Truman wouldn't carry through on that and that Gore Sr was a commusnist asset throughout his political carreer.

Do you disagree??

MacArthur gave a comprehensive military plan to achieve victory not necessarily invoving nukes but it was rejected by Truman.

The guys I am talking about were Marines the Army on the other side of the Chosin Reservoir could not have chased tail any further than the front of their faces.

If given the reinforcements and resources Mac requested, they could have driven the Chinese right back into China.

For you to act like what the men of Fox Hill or anyone else in that conflict was considered a "wet noodle resistance" tells me all I need to know about you and your supposed superiority of knowledge around here.

You have me completely wrong there, I would never denegrate the men of Fox Hill or any other of our men at arms.

The 'wet noodle' comment was directed soley at Washington.

As a mattor of fact if Mac had not trusted what he was told from Washington, that the Chinese definately WOULD NOT enter Korea, there would never have been a Fox Hill scenario.

No crap, I just stated that.

Well then I misread you, I thought you were being sarcastic, at least we agree on one thing.

What was his name?

I don't recall his actual given name, although it is in an old movie script around here somewhere.

His stage name was "Ramblin Jack Elliot" and he passed away back in the '90s in Silver Springs, Florida.

Not to be confused with another more famous man who also went by the name; "Rambling Jack Elliot" and the subject of an award winning film shown at the Nashville Film Festival, made by his daughter titled "The Ballad of Rambling Jack." Actually Bob Dillon used a lot of this Jack's material in the early years of his rise to fame.

The lady who wrote the biography and movie script entertained with the USO and often toured with Bob Hope, Bob pinched her on the butt once and she slapped him out of his chair on to the floor. She was definately a spunky old gal.

Great story for some certain reason i am calling BS on this story.

He's my next door neighbor and I have known him for thirty years and have never known him to try to lie to me, although I am always hesitant to inquire about war experiences from veterans because of the emotions it nearly always brings forth, if you give me some specific questions as to unit etc, I will attempt to ask.

Otherwise pound sand, I don't give a damn about what you call BS!!

Why wouldn't I have any creditability with you? Now you can go tell me people on another blog how you know someone in the system now. and make up some cutesy little story that anyone actually in the system would know your full of ****e.

I don't have the first clue about what you are talking about.

Are you active duty now?

I would think it was a colossal waste of time.

But it would make a political statement no doubt.

Not that I think the weenies in Washington presently have the spine, guts or even the philosphy to do anything at all to portray America as a free nation willing to defend itself.

I never said they didn't, it just depends on the intel and how it was received.

Walah.

Of interest on the topic:

Glitch Shows How Much US Military Relies on GPS - Worldnews.com

Gsvol, if you see it that way, that's fine.

I see it as a slap in the face of the terrorists... It proves to them and the rest of our enemies that we value and cherish our rights... Freedom of religion.
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Glad I have your approval to have an opinion.

And the terrorist are rolling on the floor laughing at such stupid gulibility, ignorance and naivete.

The one proposing the mosque is connected with the muslim brotherhood which gave rise to al-Qaeda and several other terroists groups.

He also is connected with a rather radical group that is in the process of building a mosque in Chicago.

You speak of the same kind of tolerance of religious freedom we demonstated at Ruby Ridge and Waco???

What is your religion?? As if.

Islam isn't just a religion it is a paracitic cancer that infects and eventually kills any society that hosts it.

Islam is a fascistic political/economic/legal system that always seeks to dominate or destroy until it reches it's goal of world domination and control.

Look to what has happened in England, Holland and France for what you may expect with this sort of policy.

Those idiotic liberals who see this appeasement of islam as an expression meant to advance 'moderate' islam should listen to what Recep Tayyip Erdogan the PM of Turkey has said; "The term 'moderate islam' is ugly and an insult, there is no moderate or immoderate islam, islam is islam." Not that he is at all alone when making such a statment.

 

[gsvol]

this thread almost made it to 100 posts that were generally either interesting or informative before degenerating into off-topic bickering.

I'm going to unofficially declare that a modern day record for the politics forum.
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What do think will happen with the current impasse??

It looks like the conservative will be reelected in South Korea today.

The liberals brag that under their appeasement policy toward NK they weren't sinking SK ships etc but the people seemed to have awakened to the fact that the policy is more like being extorted of their lunch money by some playground bully and have taken a dim view of such policy.

Looks like the same thing may be happening in America.

As many military men and philosophers have said; "appeasements of tyrants" never works for very long.

 

[BigPapaVol]

As many military men and philosophers have said; "appeasements of tyrants" never works for very long.

and this is the crux of the problem with the liberal pacifist approach to diplomacy. It has its merit, but not with bad guys.

 

[gsvol]

and this is the crux of the problem with the liberal pacifist approach to diplomacy. It has its merit, but not with bad guys.

I think some of the so-called liberals are would be tyrants themselves.

What they really are is wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

[arTfuldodger]

Is it possible to intercept long range artillery rounds, or at least some of them?

I'm far from sharp on the topic, and I won't pretend to be. But I would guess that if we couldn't do this, there would be a problem with our defense spending. Its frkn 2010! (Not directed @ you IP)
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[arTfuldodger]

I think some of the so-called liberals are would be tyrants themselves.

What they really are is wolves in sheep's clothing.

Exactly. You can't bury greed my friends.
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[IPorange]

I think some of the so-called liberals are would be tyrants themselves.

What they really are is wolves in sheep's clothing.

Huh, and you think wolves should be shot on sight, and given no safe harbor. At the least, you are consistent.

 

[BoseefusTheVol]

I think some of the so-called liberals are would be tyrants themselves.

What they really are is wolves in sheep's clothing.

Deep thought gs... Deep
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[gsvol]

Exactly. You can't bury greed my friends.
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The seven deadly sins are as deadly as ever, maybe that's why the obituary column is never empty.

Huh, and you think wolves should be shot on sight, and given no safe harbor. At the least, you are consistent.

Silly, silly, silly, why do you always try to twist my words?

What I said was the wolf should be removed from the endangered species list and rightfully so, and I also supported that with plenty of data.

Now if you want to charge me with being in favor of eliminating 'possums, concider me a founding member of the "opposum eradication society!"

Carrion eating 'possums serve no useful purpose that can't be performed by buzzards and incects, plus if they were extinct they wouldn'd be getting in your chicken house and killing your favorite laying hen.

Deep thought gs... Deep
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You want deep thoughts? Consider this:

You are to Hank Williams Junior as the odor of a dog turd is to the fragrance of a gardenia.

Glad you appreciate my humor, even though you are about as funny as the proverbial turd in a punch bowl yourself.

 

[BoseefusTheVol]

A proverbial turd in a punch bowl is funny, methinks...
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[DC Vol]

1. So the new Islamic indoctrination center will be a "holy site?" 600 ft is two blocks?? It was near enought to ground zero (an offensive term to me) that the previous building had to be torn down. How about if he just put it in Mecca where no Christian, Jew or any other non muslim is allowed to set foot??

2. If so, I will come back with something that may meet your holy liberal approval.

3. Calling it the Cordoba House is doubly insulting.

1. It is 2 blocks, here is the satellite imagery of the proposed site nyc - Google Maps . With that said, it's bitterly ironic that the World Trade Center Attacks were the culmination of religious ignorance and intolerance. Within 2 blocks are a Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic and an Episcopal Chapel. What you're proposing is, because this attack was done by Muslim extremists that we should forgo a constitutionally protected right to freedom of religion. You are an ignorant swine. I don't normally cast stones, but this is an overbearing truth in this regard.

2. You seem quite certain of my political affiliations so I'll just leave that one here. Though, I will only say one thing: I served time in the military to safeguard and gain an appreciation for the freedoms that all citizens of this nation are bestowed. Quite simply, I don't accept ignorance towards those rights and freedoms.

3. Why? Because it's a city in Southern Spain that was seat of the Moors after Islamic conquest or because, in that same time-period, it was a major financial, cultural and political seat... that was also one of the most advanced cities in the world.

 

[arTfuldodger]

(Forgive my ignorance and if I'm off topic.)
There is no reason a religous center can not be built near the GZ site, period. Don't care what religion its for.
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[DC Vol]

(Forgive my ignorance and if I'm off topic.)
There is no reason a religous center can not be built near the GZ site, period. Don't care what religion its for.
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Don't worry about being on topic... rarely threads are still on topic after the first 15 comments much less after several pages.

 

[KB5252]

In general I agree, I do not know the specifics of this particular mosque or the people involved with it but the only objection I would possibly have is if the leadership involved with this particular mosque had any ties or history with radical Islam.

 

[DC Vol]

In general I agree, I do not know the specifics of this particular mosque or the people involved with it but the only objection I would possibly have is if the leadership involved with this particular mosque had any ties or history with radical Islam.

Direct ties. None of this gsvol-esque witch hunt where someone's father's cousin's friend's room-mate once met Bin Laden crap.

 

[KB5252]

Direct ties. None of this gsvol-esque witch hunt where someone's father's cousin's friend's room-mate once met Bin Laden crap.

I don't disagree.

 

[gsvol]

A proverbial turd in a punch bowl is funny, methinks...
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You would.

1. It is 2 blocks, here is the satellite imagery of the proposed site nyc - Google Maps . With that said, it's bitterly ironic that the World Trade Center Attacks were the culmination of religious ignorance and intolerance. Within 2 blocks are a Greek Orthodox, Roman Catholic and an Episcopal Chapel. What you're proposing is, because this attack was done by Muslim extremists that we should forgo a constitutionally protected right to freedom of religion. You are an ignorant swine. I don't normally cast stones, but this is an overbearing truth in this regard.

2. You seem quite certain of my political affiliations so I'll just leave that one here. Though, I will only say one thing: I served time in the military to safeguard and gain an appreciation for the freedoms that all citizens of this nation are bestowed. Quite simply, I don't accept ignorance towards those rights and freedoms.

3. Why? Because it's a city in Southern Spain that was seat of the Moors after Islamic conquest or because, in that same time-period, it was a major financial, cultural and political seat... that was also one of the most advanced cities in the world.

1. If I am an ignorant swine, you are pig sh!t.

2. And I don't appreciate ignorance about our enemies who would deny us those rights and freedoms.

3. None of the above. Because of the horrible way the people of the Iberian penensula were treated for seven hundred years and because you never read about the horrors of living under islamic sharia law.

(Forgive my ignorance and if I'm off topic.)
There is no reason a religous center can not be built near the GZ site, period. Don't care what religion its for.
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Don't know a lot about islam do you??

You are right though, there is no reason it can't be built, everything is going right on schedule.

Before long all the neighborhood bars will be closed because drinking is offenseive to muslims, next will be the bar-b-que joints, and then some day people will realize the list of demands to appease their anger is endless.

What do you think of the people of Switzerland who recently voted to ban any more minarets being built tin their country??

Don't worry about being on topic... rarely threads are still on topic after the first 15 comments much less after several pages.

JTrain gave this particular thread an award for staying on topic for over 100 posts.

Do you have any comments about the current situation on the Korean penensula??

 

[gsvol]

In general I agree, I do not know the specifics of this particular mosque or the people involved with it but the only objection I would possibly have is if the leadership involved with this particular mosque had any ties or history with radical Islam.

For starters, there is a lot more factual info out there.

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s history, his statements in Arabic, and his organization’s appallingly incomplete tax filings.

American Thinker: Why the Ground Zero Mosque Must Be Stopped

Rauf also has close ties to another group who is building a power base in Chicago. I'll look them up later for you if you're interested.

"The term 'moderat islam' is ugly and an insult to islam, there is no moderate or immoderate islam, islam is islam."
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, PM of Turkey

Direct ties. None of this gsvol-esque witch hunt where someone's father's cousin's friend's room-mate once met Bin Laden crap.

Is the the dhimmicrat party test???

BILL GATES FUNDS GULEN ISLAMIST MOVEMENT | thelastcrusade

“…move in the arteries of the system without anyone noticing…until you reach all the power centers…”
– Fethullah Gluon 1999, founder of 85 US taxpayer-supported Islamic schools.

 

[BoseefusTheVol]

gs, could you go into more detail of Bill Gates involvement in the Islamo-Facist web?

 

[gsvol]

gs, could you go into more detail of Bill Gates involvement in the Islamo-Facist web?

The link is self explanitory for anyoe with an IQ over 2, what's to explain??

Even DC got that point about dhimmicrat's, does 'intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer' ring a bell with you??

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

 

[arTfuldodger]

You would.







1. If I am an ignorant swine, you are pig sh!t.

2. And I don't appreciate ignorance about our enemies who would deny us those rights and freedoms.

3. None of the above. Because of the horrible way the people of the Iberian penensula were treated for seven hundred years and because you never read about the horrors of living under islamic sharia law.







Don't know a lot about islam do you??

You are right though, there is no reason it can't be built, everything is going right on schedule.

Before long all the neighborhood bars will be closed because drinking is offenseive to muslims, next will be the bar-b-que joints, and then some day people will realize the list of demands to appease their anger is endless.

What do you think of the people of Switzerland who recently voted to ban any more minarets being built tin their country??






JTrain gave this particular thread an award for staying on topic for over 100 posts.

Do you have any comments about the current situation on the Korean penensula??

GS, cmon now. That's a stretch. (Your response to me) I said forgive my ignorance. But I'm not buying what your selling. Its a right protected by the constitution, no? They can build their mosque. I promise you, you do not want them telling you/us what churches we can and can't build.
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[gsvol]

GS, cmon now. That's a stretch. (Your response to me) I said forgive my ignorance. But I'm not buying what your selling. Its a right protected by the constitution, no? They can build their mosque. I promise you, you do not want them telling you/us what churches we can and can't build.
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The moslems have destroyed the churches of half the world, everywhere they have conquered and now rule.

Can you tell me the definition of the word, 'islam?'

If you aren't buying what I'm selling then you are buying the lie they are selling.

Flash back to a little over a half century ago when we were locked in mortal battle for survival with the forces of islamo/fascism, what would you say to approving a nazi recruiting center in lower Manhatten??

Think about it before you pop off.

"We were young. We have died. Remember us. ... We have done what we could But until it is finished it is not done. ... We have given our lives But until it is finished no one can know what our lives gave. ... Our deaths are not ours, They are yours, They will mean what you make them. They say, Whether our lives, and our deaths were for peace and a new hope Or for nothing We cannot say. It is you who must say this. ... We leave you our deaths, Give them their meaning."
--Archibald MacLeish, American poet, writer and the Librarian of Congress

 

[BoseefusTheVol]

The link is self explanitory for anyoe with an IQ over 2, what's to explain??

Even DC got that point about dhimmicrat's, does 'intuitively obvious to even the most casual observer' ring a bell with you??

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

So, is Bill Gates a libtard? Is he with us or against us? I would like to read your opinion on him?