UAB shutting down football program

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RollinVol said:
your BOT behind the decision


Bentley (Gov): UAT
Bice: State Superintendent – No UAT or UAB affiliation
Brooks: UAT
Bryant Jr: UAT
Espy III: UAT
England Jr: UAT
Gray: UAT
Humphrey: UAB
Johns: UAT
Leonard: UAT
Malone III: UAT
Morrissette: UAT
St. John IV: UAT
Sexton: UAT
Urquhart: UAB
Vandervoort: UAT (undergrad)/UAB (MD)
Wilson III: UAT
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Just for clarification - Humphrey is Bobby Humphrey's (UA running back) wife.

The Board elects new members by secret ballot (Board members are the voters) so it is self perpetuating.

Board selected Brooks to take over as president when Bryant leaves. BTW - Brooks is a Director at Bryant's bank.

Cronyism and back-room dealing at it's finest.
 
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LOL - a transformer blew at UAB and everyone thought it was a bomb.

Best tweet - "Second power failure in 2 days at UAB"
 
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Its funny reading this thread and the only person truly supporting UAB is the same person defending Bama and that person just so happens to be a Bama fan.

Just goes to show you how Bama, its people and its fans view the world.
 
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JFBanicki said:
Its funny reading this thread and the only person truly supporting UAB is the same person defending Bama and that person just so happens to be a Bama fan.

Just goes to show you how Bama, its people and its fans view the world.
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What'll be funny is when the next program shuts down, and it's New Mexico State or Hawaii, and no one on this board gives a damn because Bama won't be the big bad.
 
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bamawriter said:
What'll be funny is when the next program shuts down, and it's New Mexico State or Hawaii, and no one on this board gives a damn because Bama won't be the big bad.
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If the Bama connection of the BOT had a role in this then the board (or anyone) rightly should criticize it.

For those other schools it will depend on the situation.
 
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volinbham said:
If the Bama connection of the BOT had a role in this then the board (or anyone) rightly should criticize it.

For those other schools it will depend on the situation.
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Agreed. If it weren't so shady people wouldn't say a word.
 
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bamawriter said:
What'll be funny is when the next program shuts down, and it's New Mexico State or Hawaii, and no one on this board gives a damn because Bama won't be the big bad.
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Nobody's giving Alabama the benefit of the doubt -- not just here, but everywhere in the country other Tuscaloosa -- because there's a history of UAT meddling with the UAB football program. Or perhaps you could explain how nixing the hire of Jimbo Fisher was really in UAB's best interest after all?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Nobody's giving Alabama the benefit of the doubt -- not just here, but everywhere in the country other Tuscaloosa -- because there's a history of UAT meddling with the UAB football program. Or perhaps you could explain how nixing the hire of Jimbo Fisher was really in UAB's best interest after all?
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While I won't defend that meddling, I will ask this:

Would hiring Jimbo Fisher have made a significant difference? There's no way to argue that he'd still be there. Either he'd have failed and been fired, or he'd have succeeded and moved on. Their last coach left to be an offensive coordinator at Louisville, so it's not like UAB's going to be anyone's destination job.
 
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bamawriter said:
While I won't defend that meddling, I will ask this:

Would hiring Jimbo Fisher have made a significant difference? There's no way to argue that he'd still be there. Either he'd have failed and been fired, or he'd have succeeded and moved on. Their last coach left to be an offensive coordinator at Louisville, so it's not like UAB's going to be anyone's destination job.
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We will never know since UAT won't give them a chance.
 
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CNCVol88 said:
We will never know since UAT won't give them a chance.
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How long should one be allowed to fail?

If the only legitimate argument is that UAB couldn't succeed without Jimbo Fisher, then it's just as well that they go ahead and close up shop.
 
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bamawriter said:
Their last coach left to be an offensive coordinator at Louisville, so it's not like UAB's going to be anyone's destination job.
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Gee, wonder why he would've left?

Hmmmmmm....

It's not that they were constantly failing at everything they tried.

They were a plant expected to grow while it was in the dark underneath a bucket...


A horse expected to win races when it spends it's days tied to a post and being fed only the bare minimum needed to sustain life.
 
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bamawriter said:
How long should one be allowed to fail?

If the only legitimate argument is that UAB couldn't succeed without Jimbo Fisher, then it's just as well that they go ahead and close up shop.
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Here's the issue - Vercing posted this sentiment as well.

The BOT has consistently either denied resources too or not supported UAB Football. It has been an unwanted orphan to the board since day 1.

Think about that - the Board actively and passively worked against the success of a program under it's purview.

The honorable thing to do would to have been denying the formation of football but the Board didn't have the balls and instead has consistently treated it like crap instead of trying to help it succeed.

This is not how a board should treat a program and it borders on (I'm being kind) malfeasance.

So the question of "how long should one be allowed to fail" is moot.
 
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WallyBalls said:
Gee, wonder why he would've left?

Hmmmmmm....

It's not that they were constantly failing at everything they tried.

They were a plant expected to grow while it was in the dark underneath a bucket...
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He was a bad hire and saw the writing on the wall.

I like the analogy.
 
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bamawriter said:
How long should one be allowed to fail?

If the only legitimate argument is that UAB couldn't succeed without Jimbo Fisher, then it's just as well that they go ahead and close up shop.
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Would UAT had survived if they were relegated to hiring shula clones over and over? If you aren't given the tools to succeed you won't. Uab was destined to fail because of the starvation from the cronies in the bot
 
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VolnJC said:
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I think if they were to do this to neyland I would literally die
 
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bamawriter said:
While I won't defend that meddling, I will ask this:

Would hiring Jimbo Fisher have made a significant difference? There's no way to argue that he'd still be there. Either he'd have failed and been fired, or he'd have succeeded and moved on. Their last coach left to be an offensive coordinator at Louisville, so it's not like UAB's going to be anyone's destination job.
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Who knows whether hiring Fisher would have made a long-term, significant difference? A good coach can grow support, build up the roster, and demonstrate that you can win there. He makes the job more attractive for the next guy. Sometimes mid-majors can go on a pretty successful run by becoming a good spot for up-and-comers to prove themselves; it's possible that hiring Fisher could have sparked that for UAB.

But really, whether Fisher would have made a lasting difference on the field for UAB is completely beside the point. The point is that UAT's past history of meddling with UAB football makes it inevitable that people will look at this situation through that lens. This is not butthurt UT fans who are just jealous of mighty Bama, which is your usual take on everything that happens. This is everyone around the country.
 
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volinbham said:
Here's the issue - Vercing posted this sentiment as well.

The BOT has consistently either denied resources too or not supported UAB Football. It has been an unwanted orphan to the board since day 1...

...So the question of "how long should one be allowed to fail" is moot.
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CNCVol88 said:
Would UAT had survived if they were relegated to hiring shula clones over and over? If you aren't given the tools to succeed you won't. Uab was destined to fail because of the starvation from the cronies in the bot
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Again, not defending the meddling.

But with their level of fan support, I'm simply not convinced they would ever succeed no matter what. Most of the schools in similar situations aren't. Add in the cost of attendance coming down the pike, and it doesn't seem viable.

None of that excuses anyone's actions if anyone has made this a personal issue. Emotion is bad for business. If it were up to me, I would have explored the possibility of dropping back to FCS, but I have no idea how realistic that option is.

In the end, I don't think anyone can make a convincing case for UAB's success absent the board's meddling. I understand that there's no way to know, but again, other programs in their situation aren't fairing any better even with administrative support. Unfortunately, UAB is simply going to be the first in a line of FBS programs that fold.
 
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