Uconn vs MD

[gule]

Tennessee remains undefeated against UConn since 2006.

 

[Sandvol]

actually I think that is the way Bama Dave operates ,he backed in to hiring coach Jones and it was a stroke of luck that Barnes quit Texas when he did,I do have to say that I think coach Summitt did a good job as far as wanting coach Warlick as her replacement

I know most won't to hear this,but you have to remember that Coach Warlick is still learning on the job as a head coach,I think she will get it all figured out,but it does take time,which most have forgotten about

of course there is nothing like taking over a Legends spot as the head coach,the microscope is on her,but given a little time and I think she will do a fine job of carrying on the Lady Vols tradition of playing winning basketball

When you have as much talent as she has and they still look like the keystone cops it is pretty depressing. The woman is not a good coach. If she had a bunch of average players she would have a below average record. I want a coach who if she had a group of average players would have an above average record. A coach who gets the most out of her team like the Oregon State Coach (he). Holly isn't it.

 

[Trixietrouble]

I know most won't to hear this,but you have to remember that Coach Warlick is still learning on the job as a head coach,I think she will get it all figured out,but it does take time,which most have forgotten about

of course there is nothing like taking over a Legends spot as the head coach,the microscope is on her,but given a little time and I think she will do a fine job of carrying on the Lady Vols tradition of playing winning basketball

I think if you are correct about HCHW, then the current roster of players need to be taking more heat for not executing her tactics and strategy appropriately.

As Sandvol points out, unless they are playing a Central Arkansas type team, the play is extremely sloppy much of the time. Hard to watch even...but that is just because we know the raw talent potential of the team is so high (at least on paper).

 

[Volfan2012]

Seriously though, does it matter if they lose? At the end of the day, it would be nothing more than an out of conference loss.... nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't mean UConn wouldn't beat them when it counts. I'm pretty sure not all of UConn's 10 national championships were undefeated seasons. There were many that though SC would beat UConn last season. How did that work out? If they do lose, that'll only be their 2nd loss in over 100 games.

Maryland played a great game, but still lost by double digits. On the Maryland board, some were saying Maryland didn't play well....Same could be said for UConn. 14 TO's in the first half? Hardly UConn-like. I don't want to take anything away from the Terps, though. I was impressed by their talent and how they never backed down. They answered every UConn run with one of their own.

UConn has some issues to work out, that's for certain. We have some holes we didn't have last season. I think when the Frosh get some experience and we get Butler back, that will help. My biggest surprise is how poorly we're guarding the 3 this season. I don't think we're quite as bad as it appears however.... we've played against some great shooters, and teams know that they need to jack up a lot of 3's to score with us. Still, that part of our defense needs a LOT of work.

Funny, DePaul fans said "We could have beaten UConn"....Notre Dame fans said the same things, as did some Maryland fans....and yet, they didn't. The SC game will be interesting, for sure.

I don't care when they lose or how they lose just hope they lose this season. I know they will probably be good enough to win the NCAA tourney this season next season not so much.

 

[teacherdean]

actually I think that is the way Bama Dave operates ,he backed in to hiring coach Jones and it was a stroke of luck that Barnes quit Texas when he did,I do have to say that I think coach Summitt did a good job as far as wanting coach Warlick as her replacement

I know most won't to hear this,but you have to remember that Coach Warlick is still learning on the job as a head coach,I think she will get it all figured out,but it does take time,which most have forgotten about

of course there is nothing like taking over a Legends spot as the head coach,the microscope is on her,but given a little time and I think she will do a fine job of carrying on the Lady Vols tradition of playing winning basketball

Really after 4 years she is still learning coaching 101? At this level their is limited room for OJT. Replacing a legend or an aweful coach, After 4 years Holly should have it by now, or be damn close. It doesn't take much knowledge to figure out your offense sucks and is very predictable. Will she figure out how to recruit next year? Let us face it not every longtime assistant coach is head coaching material. If Holly don't figure it out soon we will end up in a deep hole that will be difficult to climb out of.

 

[SCGamecock]

I think UConn loses this season. I think SC might be the team to beat them. There will be a sold out crowd and I think they match up better with UConn than last season.

I too think we match up better with UCONN this year than last. For one, Kaleena Mosqueda Lewis was just WAY too much to overcome last year. She was automatic from the perimeter last year and we could never guard her because we had to put so much attention on Stewart/Jefferson. UCONN can still hit the three but they're nowhere near as prolific as last year. We've yet to really show it but I think we're a much better team offensively than last year. We're more active in all facets. I think Wilson will give Stewart a game this year.. Coates is better, Dozier is better, Imovbioh is an interesting addition. SC really needs White to become more of an offensive weapon. She can do things that our other post players can't do..

I'm not ready to thump my chest and say SC wins.. but I'm hoping the game will be much more competitive this year.

 

[LadyVol1908]

I too think we match up better with UCONN this year than last. For one, Kaleena Mosqueda Lewis was just WAY too much to overcome last year. She was automatic from the perimeter last year and we could never guard her because we had to put so much attention on Stewart/Jefferson. UCONN can still hit the three but they're nowhere near as prolific as last year. We've yet to really show it but I think we're a much better team offensively than last year. We're more active in all facets. I think Wilson will give Stewart a game this year.. Coates is better, Dozier is better, Imovbioh is an interesting addition. SC really needs White to become more of an offensive weapon. She can do things that our other post players can't do..

I'm not ready to thump my chest and say SC wins.. but I'm hoping the game will be much more competitive this year.

I like you guys chances much better this year than last as well. I think Tiffany Mitchell's play will be key! If she plays like we know she can then you all could hang with UCONN.

 

[LasVegasBill23]

I think one of the differences last year was that UConn ran and ran and ran..... and South Carolina looked like they did not want to keep up..... Credit to Dawn.... she employed I think a conditioning coach over the summer..... this year they should show much better

 

[brassie]

I too think we match up better with UCONN this year than last. For one, Kaleena Mosqueda Lewis was just WAY too much to overcome last year. She was automatic from the perimeter last year and we could never guard her because we had to put so much attention on Stewart/Jefferson. UCONN can still hit the three but they're nowhere near as prolific as last year. We've yet to really show it but I think we're a much better team offensively than last year. We're more active in all facets. I think Wilson will give Stewart a game this year.. Coates is better, Dozier is better, Imovbioh is an interesting addition. SC really needs White to become more of an offensive weapon. She can do things that our other post players can't do..
I'm not ready to thump my chest and say SC wins.. but I'm hoping the game will be much more competitive this year.

Last night 6'5" Natalie Butler made her 1st game appearance in a UConn uniform. Coming off an injury it was her 1st game in a year and a half. Admittedly playing against an outmatched opponent, she scored 11 points (5 of 7), snagged 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals. All in only 15 minutes.
Did I mention that she hasn't played in a year and a half? If what we saw last night is an indication of her ability, SC will have their hands full in the paint - who do you guard 6'4' Stewart, 6.2"Tuck or 6'5"Butler?
If SC packs the paint in an attempt to limit inside scoring, they will have to deal with UConn's outside game (Jefferson, Nurse, Stewart and Chong) averaging better than 41% on 3 pt shots.

 

[tonyc]

SC will not beat UConn barring injuries and foul trouble and UConn doesn't get into foul trouble My reasoning . Mitchell is the only legit outside shooter SC has and SC does not score a lot of points against top teams. Where DePaul ND and MD hurt UConn or made a game of it was playing 4 guards who could knock down the treys consistently. All had a first half where they shot lights out and I think DePaul and ND were close to or over 60% and still trailed. SC doesn't have that. With Butler and Chong now playing SC and everybody else in WCBB will see what a difference those 2 make in UConns game. Last nite I saw Butler who is a soph look like Dolsen as a senior. I saw over the past two games Chong regain her confidence and look and play like she did in HS where she dominated everybody in NY BB. UConn just got scary better. Sunday Jan 10 UConn plays at USF on ESPN2. You will see a much improved UConn team. As for next season it is very encouraging to see Butler and Chong playing at the level theyre at. The SC game is on Feb 8 in SC and I doubt if SC comes with double digits. If UConn goes off it could get ugly. If SC doesn't keep UConn under 60 they don't have a chance and with that said well I think we know the answer to that.

 

[governmentmule]

I think if you are correct about HCHW, then the current roster of players need to be taking more heat for not executing her tactics and strategy appropriately.

As Sandvol points out, unless they are playing a Central Arkansas type team, the play is extremely sloppy much of the time. Hard to watch even...but that is just because we know the raw talent potential of the team is so high (at least on paper).

I personally do think there should be more pressure on the players rather than CHW,there number one problem is making a shot and CHW can't shot it for them.it isn't like the players haven't had the open shots to take either,they've had plenty of opportunities


there 2nd big problem is making the right decision on a pass,how many times have we seen them just throw the ball into the opposing players hands? that isn't the coach telling them to do that

CHW is still learning how to be THE head coach,she is making improvements, BUT she needs to hurry up and quit fooling around and take charge of this team,they need a kick in the pants or something,she needs to get as mean as CPS would or so I think anyway

and let us not forget there have been a bunch of injuries so far this year,it is great to see the injured getting back on the court,of course that has slowed down the teams progression so far and it will take a bit for the players to get back into there Game groove,which is a bad thing considering that it is SEC time

 

[Rickster]

I personally do think there should be more pressure on the players rather than CHW,there number one problem is making a shot and CHW can't shot it for them.it isn't like the players haven't had the open shots to take either,they've had plenty of opportunities


there 2nd big problem is making the right decision on a pass,how many times have we seen them just throw the ball into the opposing players hands? that isn't the coach telling them to do that

CHW is still learning how to be THE head coach,she is making improvements, BUT she needs to hurry up and quit fooling around and take charge of this team,they need a kick in the pants or something,she needs to get as mean as CPS would or so I think anyway

and let us not forget there have been a bunch of injuries so far this year,it is great to see the injured getting back on the court,of course that has slowed down the teams progression so far and it will take a bit for the players to get back into there Game groove,which is a bad thing considering that it is SEC time

Great minds think alike.

 

[SCGamecock]

I think one of the differences last year was that UConn ran and ran and ran..... and South Carolina looked like they did not want to keep up..... Credit to Dawn.... she employed I think a conditioning coach over the summer..... this year they should show much better

We hired Maryland's strength and conditioning coach and it shows. We're in MUCH better shape this year, especially our bigs.. They run the floor well.

 

[SCGamecock]

Last night 6'5" Natalie Butler made her 1st game appearance in a UConn uniform. Coming off an injury it was her 1st game in a year and a half. Admittedly playing against an outmatched opponent, she scored 11 points (5 of 7), snagged 8 rebounds, 2 blocks and 2 steals. All in only 15 minutes.
Did I mention that she hasn't played in a year and a half? If what we saw last night is an indication of her ability, SC will have their hands full in the paint - who do you guard 6'4' Stewart, 6.2"Tuck or 6'5"Butler?
If SC packs the paint in an attempt to limit inside scoring, they will have to deal with UConn's outside game (Jefferson, Nurse, Stewart and Chong) averaging better than 41% on 3 pt shots.

Yea I watched that game mainly because I wanted to see Butler play. My response, meh. I think she's good and she'll do well for UCONN but there's nothing that particularly frightens me about her. She throws a wrench in the game simply because it's another big body that UCONN can throw at Wilson & Co. To be frank, she didn't do anything in that game that our own Coates can't do and I'm not convinced Butler is going to bully Coates in the paint. Maybe she will, but it's hard for me to be convinced that she will judging by how she played versus a much smaller Cincinnati team. Also, I don't think Geno plays Butler, Stewart and Tuck all at once.. Tuck and Stewart are very versatile but at what point are you playing "too big"...

TL;DR - Butler is good but not spectacular, yet. She gives UCONN a much needed presence in the paint. Personally, my jury is still out on her. I need to see her versus a more talented team.

 

[Sandvol]

I personally do think there should be more pressure on the players rather than CHW,there number one problem is making a shot and CHW can't shot it for them.it isn't like the players haven't had the open shots to take either,they've had plenty of opportunities


there 2nd big problem is making the right decision on a pass,how many times have we seen them just throw the ball into the opposing players hands? that isn't the coach telling them to do that

CHW is still learning how to be THE head coach,she is making improvements, BUT she needs to hurry up and quit fooling around and take charge of this team,they need a kick in the pants or something,she needs to get as mean as CPS would or so I think anyway

and let us not forget there have been a bunch of injuries so far this year,it is great to see the injured getting back on the court,of course that has slowed down the teams progression so far and it will take a bit for the players to get back into there Game groove,which is a bad thing considering that it is SEC time

Woman is too slow on the uptake.

 

[Trixietrouble]

TL;DR - Butler is good but not spectacular, yet. She gives UCONN a much needed presence in the paint. Personally, my jury is still out on her. I need to see her versus a more talented team.

I think UCONN just needs her to only be good, not spectacular.

On a related note since this is the UCONN vs MD thread, Maryland just lost to Ohio State by 9.

Either a let-down after being all revved up for UCONN, or Ohio State is validating the polls for having them in the Top 10 despite 3 losses (I didn't see the game).

 

[CockyGuy]

I think UCONN just needs her to only be good, not spectacular.

On a related note since this is the UCONN vs MD thread, Maryland just lost to Ohio State by 9.

Either a let-down after being all revved up for UCONN, or Ohio State is validating the polls for having them in the Top 10 despite 3 losses (I didn't see the game).

They need Butler to not get abused in the post, and I don't know if that doesn't happen. The combo of Wilson, Coates, White, and Imovbioh is a lot for post players who are in game shape, but almost impossible for someone who has missed the amount of time that Butler has. "Stewie can't play the post the entire game. I saw a couple of times, in which Jefferson tried to guard Brionna Jones". One of UConn fan's quote not mine. Duke has a myriad of great/better post players too, so did Notre Dame in the final four. Our girls held their own. If(when)Uconn wins it'll be because they thoroughly outplayed our backcourt, there's no comparison in the post.

 

[Trixietrouble]

I'm not going to defend UCONN, but you guys should probably win the game first, then come back to a Lady Vol board and brag about how you did it.

P.S.: Love the Steelers icon!

 

[SCGamecock]

I'm not going to defend UCONN, but you guys should probably win the game first, then come back to a Lady Vol board and brag about how you did it.

P.S.: Love the Steelers icon!

Trust, we want to win that game badly but it's a gargantuan task almost. SC winning that game would be great for WCBB. Somebody needs to beat UCONN, even if it's not SC.. somebody has to.

 

[SCGamecock]

I think UCONN just needs her to only be good, not spectacular.

On a related note since this is the UCONN vs MD thread, Maryland just lost to Ohio State by 9.

Either a let-down after being all revved up for UCONN, or Ohio State is validating the polls for having them in the Top 10 despite 3 losses (I didn't see the game).

I watched that game, pretty sure Ohio State led like 90% of the game.. The Buckeyes looked good but so did Maryland. Lots of offense, the entire game was played in transition almost.. Not much defense, or pressuring on the ball I should say. Everybody kinda just defended to get by. I'm honestly surprised somebody didn't break 90 in that game. Game was played at break neck speed, Maryland lost steam in the 4th. Mitchell never let up.

 

[BBaller]

Yea I watched that game mainly because I wanted to see Butler play. My response, meh. I think she's good and she'll do well for UCONN but there's nothing that particularly frightens me about her. She throws a wrench in the game simply because it's another big body that UCONN can throw at Wilson & Co. To be frank, she didn't do anything in that game that our own Coates can't do and I'm not convinced Butler is going to bully Coates in the paint. Maybe she will, but it's hard for me to be convinced that she will judging by how she played versus a much smaller Cincinnati team. Also, I don't think Geno plays Butler, Stewart and Tuck all at once.. Tuck and Stewart are very versatile but at what point are you playing "too big"...

TL;DR - Butler is good but not spectacular, yet. She gives UCONN a much needed presence in the paint. Personally, my jury is still out on her. I need to see her versus a more talented team.

Your jury is still out on her? Really? Sounds like the jury has already ruled.... "My response, meh. I think she's good and she'll do well for UCONN but there's nothing that particularly frightens me about her."..... You're making judgements on someone that was playing their first game in a year and half. You can't be serious. What are you, some kind of talent scout? Maybe you're just a harsher judge than I am, but after not playing for all that time, I think 11 points (5-7), 8 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks in 15 minutes of playing time is pretty damn good. Certainly better than "meh".

 

[reno tony]

Just the facts:

Her freshman year at Georgetown Natalie Butler was fifth in the nation in rebounding and averaged a double-double. She had 1.84 blocks per game and shot 49% from the floor. She was Big East rookie of the year and defensive player of the year. She hasn't played a game in one year nine months. She played 15 minutes, scored 11 points, had 8 rebounds, 2 blocked shots, 2 steals, 1 TO and no fouls in her first game back.

Mercedes Russell against Stetson: 24 minutes, 11 points, 8 rebounds, 2 blocked shots, 0 steals, 1 TO, 1 foul.

 

[Trixietrouble]

Your jury is still out on her? Really? Sounds like the jury has already ruled.... "My response, meh. I think she's good and she'll do well for UCONN but there's nothing that particularly frightens me about her."..... You're making judgements on someone that was playing their first game in a year and half. You can't be serious. What are you, some kind of talent scout? Maybe you're just a harsher judge than I am, but after not playing for all that time, I think 11 points (5-7), 8 rebounds, 2 steals and 2 blocks in 15 minutes of playing time is pretty damn good. Certainly better than "meh".

Yeah. Beat them first, then come in and brag. REALLY SOUTH CAROLINA? You are basing your hopes on basically nothing? Seriously - Beat them - then come and comment - otherwise go the hell away,

 

[WVU05UT09]

Yeah. Beat them first, then come in and brag. REALLY SOUTH CAROLINA? You are basing your hopes on basically nothing? Seriously - Beat them - then come and comment - otherwise go the hell away,

Heard it many times and will say it again, trophy case of Vanderbilt...arrogance of Alabama

 

[volnationnj]

I watched that game, pretty sure Ohio State led like 90% of the game.. The Buckeyes looked good but so did Maryland. Lots of offense, the entire game was played in transition almost.. Not much defense, or pressuring on the ball I should say. Everybody kinda just defended to get by. I'm honestly surprised somebody didn't break 90 in that game. Game was played at break neck speed, Maryland lost steam in the 4th. Mitchell never let up.

If you watched the game, you couldn't have been paying much attention. Maryland scored first and led the ENTIRE first half after that. Ohio St took it's first lead of the game in the 3rd quarter. Don't know how you came up with "I watched that game, pretty sure Ohio State led like 90% of the game."