UF on a downward spiral?

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UF loses a ton of talent on the defensive side of the ball next season including:
DL: Ivie, Cox, Brantley and possibly Sherit.
LB: Davis, Anzalone, and McMillian.
DB: Tabor, Quincy, and Maye.
Offense should improve under McElwain, but hasn't shown much yet. Recruiting has been subpar for UF since CJM. Still good, but not what you would expect considering they're in one of the biggest recruiting hot beds in the country. The resurgence of Miami could make matters worse. They're quite possibly on a downward spiral and the streak could very well flip.
 
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They are mortal like the rest of us and have a 3 year rebuild left. Make no mistake that offense will be potent in a year or two.
 
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Who would you rather play for - McElwain or Richt? As a recruit that would be an easy question for me. Plus you have FSU nearby. I think the ACC has risen in prominence, but if you wanna play in the SEC you also have a few other pretty close schools competing for you as a recruit.

We'll have to wait and see what little Mac does down there over the next few years, but I smell the second coming of Muschump. I bet he'll be coaching USCe in five years and Richt will be playing for ACC championships.
 
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Knox-a-rue said:
Who would you rather play for - McElwain or Richt? As a recruit that would be an easy question for me. Plus you have FSU nearby. I think the ACC has risen in prominence, but if you wanna play in the SEC you also have a few other pretty close schools competing for you as a recruit.

We'll have to wait and see what little Mac does down there over the next few years, but I smell the second coming of Muschump. I bet he'll be coaching USCe in five years and Richt will be playing for ACC championships.
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Muschamp never won the East, so that's a poor comparison.

We'll be playing a bunch of youngsters on defense next season, but I suspect our offense will be potent going forward as long as there's stability at the QB position.

Appleby played MUCH better than I expected, which is a testament to Mac's ability to coach up QBs...something Muschamp still doesn't have a clue about.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Muschamp never won the East, so that's a poor comparison.

We'll be playing a bunch of youngsters on defense next season, but I suspect our offense will be potent going forward as long as there's stability at the QB position.

Appleby played MUCH better than I expected, which is a testament to Mac's ability to coach up QBs...something Muschamp still doesn't have a clue about.
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Appleby was fine when he had time. Made good decisions and got the ball to guys that were open. The second half was not on him, he never had a chance. Thats a solid offense if the OL gets fixed. See UTs turn around as a good example.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Appleby was fine when he had time. Made good decisions and got the ball to guys that were open. The second half was not on him, he never had a chance. Thats a solid offense if the OL gets fixed. See UTs turn around as a good example.
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Good point on the OL.

Our running game missed RG Tyler Jordan on Saturday...but seeing as how he can't cover Jennings or Malone I'm not sure if anything changes if he did play.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Good point on the OL.

Our running game missed RG Tyler Jordan on Saturday...but seeing as how he can't cover Jennings or Malone I'm not sure if anything changes if he did play.
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I knew that UF had some concerns up front but you couldn't tell it in the first half. Im not really sure what changed after intermission but UT was able to collapse the pocket with 4 and that changed the game. The offensive explosion was a little harder to see coming. You could see the body language of the UF players late in the 3rd quarter had changed dramatically. A combination of exhaustion and bewilderment.

I posted this in the FF, but I ran into "The Old Ball Coach" in our hotel restaurant/bar after the game. For a Vol fan after a big win over UF that was a memorable experience. He and his wife are very cordial people.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Appleby played MUCH better than I expected, which is a testament to Mac's ability to coach up QBs...something Muschamp still doesn't have a clue about.
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I wasn't that surprised about Appleby, considering I think Etling has done fairly well with given no time to throw and Appleby replaced Etling at Purdue. Both of the Purdue kids have come in less than ideal situations and done fairly well.
 
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I think we need more time before making assumptions about Florida. I don't care much for the Vandy game, but I really want to see how they play at home against LSU. That should paint a clearer picture.
 
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Volunteer08 said:
I think we need more time before making assumptions about Florida. I don't care much for the Vandy game, but I really want to see how they play at home against LSU. That should paint a clearer picture.
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Yeah I wasn't really talking so much about this season. I was mainly referring to next season and going forward. Their defense has kept them in games the last 2 seasons and their defense takes a huge hit next season.
 
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Ehhh... we'll worry about the Gators a year from now. That said, they aren't going anywhere. They'll reload like they typically do. McElwain seems like a decent coach. And it's not just Florida that's sharing the wealth these days. The rest of college football has caught up with the SEC. We aren't what we were 5 years ago. Finally, it's not like anyone else in the East is on the precipice of dominating the division for multiple years in a row.
 
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Jury is still out on FLA I think. Their D is solid no doubt. But thus far the O has under achieved. And they have talent at the skill positions except for QB. But I thought Swamp Donkey was supposed to be some kind of QB whisperer? So I'm stumped by that. The O line definately is a work in progress and we can relate but I think we're a tad farther along in recovery there. I think it's gonna take until sometime mid next season to have enough body of work to tell.

However. If we trip up they are back in it. Make no mistake schedule strength is on their side. I think they have LSU (w) UGA (w) and Arky (L?) left that can put up resistance? We have to win one of Bama and aTm to keep control of our own destiny
 
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LSU might rebound a bit. Orgeron(sp?) did pretty well getting the Trojans amped up and playing pretty well after their Kiffin debacle.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Muschamp never won the East, so that's a poor comparison.

We'll be playing a bunch of youngsters on defense next season, but I suspect our offense will be potent going forward as long as there's stability at the QB position.

Appleby played MUCH better than I expected, which is a testament to Mac's ability to coach up QBs...something Muschamp still doesn't have a clue about.
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That's the key right there. I honestly don't know much about your two frosh QBs, but someone asked the question the other day about why UF hasn't gotten a highly rated QB out of Florida yet.

I know the playing field has been leveled in Florida so to speak, kind of like the way it was in Texas. You have Miami, FSU, USF, UCF and all sorts of ACC/SEC teams raping and pillaging in the recruiting grounds, but it's still Florida and historically a program worth playing for as a incoming recruit.
 
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eskimovol said:
LSU might rebound a bit. Orgeron(sp?) did pretty well getting the Trojans amped up and playing pretty well after their Kiffin debacle.
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Different animal completely, USC kids didn't have a lot of feeling for Kiffin one way or another. LSU kids really liked Miles....and they are smart enough to know:
1) they aren't good enough to win out
2) several just want to finish and not get hurt
3) that Ed O aint getting that job

I expect to see LSU tank it
 
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wmcovol said:
Different animal completely, USC kids didn't have a lot of feeling for Kiffin one way or another. LSU kids really liked Miles....and they are smart enough to know:
1) they aren't good enough to win out
2) several just want to finish and not get hurt
3) that Ed O aint getting that job

I expect to see LSU tank it
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They may have liked Miles but I doubt they were that fond of Cameron. I'm with you in believing LSU will tank, I just think short term there's a chance that Ed O will have them excited to play. Fingers crossed that it lasts long enough to beat Florida, then I don't care what LSU does.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Muschamp never won the East, so that's a poor comparison.

We'll be playing a bunch of youngsters on defense next season, but I suspect our offense will be potent going forward as long as there's stability at the QB position.

Appleby played MUCH better than I expected, which is a testament to Mac's ability to coach up QBs...something Muschamp still doesn't have a clue about.
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Technically, Muschamp won the East in 2012. 7-1 and sharing it isn't bad.
 
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5FingerVolPunch said:
Yeah I wasn't really talking so much about this season. I was mainly referring to next season and going forward. Their defense has kept them in games the last 2 seasons and their defense takes a huge hit next season.
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I agree. Didn't LG or HG say something about Franks not turning out to be what they thought? If true, they'll need to recruit someone or they could find themselves in some trouble.
 
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Grand Vol said:
That's the key right there. I honestly don't know much about your two frosh QBs, but someone asked the question the other day about why UF hasn't gotten a highly rated QB out of Florida yet.

I know the playing field has been leveled in Florida so to speak, kind of like the way it was in Texas. You have Miami, FSU, USF, UCF and all sorts of ACC/SEC teams raping and pillaging in the recruiting grounds, but it's still Florida and historically a program worth playing for as a incoming recruit.
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Kyle Trask looks to be the guy after Del Rio moves on.

Franks looked lost in the spring game and couldn't make up ground on Trask during fall practice.
 
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5FingerVolPunch said:
UF loses a ton of talent on the defensive side of the ball next season including:
DL: Ivie, Cox, Brantley and possibly Sherit.
LB: Davis, Anzalone, and McMillian.
DB: Tabor, Quincy, and Maye.
Offense should improve under McElwain, but hasn't shown much yet. Recruiting has been subpar for UF since CJM. Still good, but not what you would expect considering they're in one of the biggest recruiting hot beds in the country. The resurgence of Miami could make matters worse. They're quite possibly on a downward spiral and the streak could very well flip.
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With a strong FSU and Miami, UF is going to find it difficult to sway talent. Also consider, Bama, Clemson and UT recruit Florida heavy as well. We saw with Dooley that program prestige can only take you so far, if CJM can't keep up in recruiting he may find himself in a worse spot than Muschamp(who could actually draw talent on the D side).
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Kyle Trask looks to be the guy after Del Rio moves on.

Franks looked lost in the spring game and couldn't make up ground on Trask during fall practice.
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I suppose you should hope McElwain can bring him (Trask) up to speed. Not going to say he's a bust, but a 3 star QB from Texas isn't saying a lot.
 
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Florida will win 10 games this season.

And probably win 10 in 2017, (they play Michigan )

Florida could still win the east this year and next.

No, they are not declining.
 
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