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#26
#26
Wow with some of you that are still hung up on this birth certificate is fake. I bet you think man never landed on the moon and that the government is responsible for 9-11 too.
 
#27
#27
Sabanocchio said:
Wow with some of you that are still hung up on this birth certificate is fake. I bet you think man never landed on the moon and that the government is responsible for 9-11 too.
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Did I miss where he produced it?

I get your point, though - if anyone is crazy enough to want positive proof that the POTUS is actually Constitutionally qualified to serve as the leader of our country, and in the most powerful position on earth - they should be lumped together with all conspiracy theorists.

Makes sense. If you don't think about it.
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Tenacious D said:
Did I miss where he produced it?

I get your point, though - if anyone is crazy enough to want positive proof that the POTUS is actually Constitutionally qualified to serve as the leader of our country, and in the most powerful position on earth - they should be lumped together with all conspiracy theorists.

Makes sense. If you don't think about it.
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The proof is out there and it is completely substantiated. There is no reason whatsoever to doubt it. Just like there's no reason to doubt that a bunch of pissed off muslims caused 9-11.

If he were not been born an American, do you not think that there would be more uproar over it? Use common sense here. You may think the wool is being pulled over your eyes here, but the people that do that kind of research do not make mistakes.
 
#29
#29
Birth Certificate
Claim: A Certification of Live Birth document provided by the Obama campaign is a forgery.

FALSE
Example: [Collected via e-mail, June 2008]

I read that Obama will not release his birth certificate. Have heard rumors it's because he is listed as white. Or that because he isn't a U.S. born citizen.


Origins: In the first half of 2008, a number of rumors swirling around about presidential candidate Barack Obama coalesced in the claim that he "refused to produce his birth records" because doing so would demonstrate some or all of those rumors to be true: that Barack Obama was "not African," that he was a Muslim with a middle name of Mohammed, that he wasn't born in the United States at all (and thus didn't qualify as a natural-born citizen), etc.

In any event the rumormongers were likely to be disappointed. Information about religion and race, when it was collected for birth records, simply reflected whatever the parents identified themselves to be; those values weren't officially assigned to the newborn children as immutable labels. And of course, no infant has any control over whatever names his parents choose for him.

As things turned out, when the Obama campaign made a copy of his Certification of Live Birth from the State of Hawaii available on the Internet in June 2008, it validated none of those rumors: The certificate shows his full name to be "Barack Hussein Obama II," it lists his father's race as "African" and his mother's as "Caucasian," it contains no information about religion, and it reports his birthplace as being Honolulu, Hawaii.

A number of self-proclaimed experts immediately seized the opportunity to pronounce the certificate a forgery (even though none of them had actually seen the
original, just a scanned image of it), picking on such specious details as minor variations from other Hawaii-issued certificates and the lack of an embossed seal and signature. (Some forgery claimants even maintained that the certificate was actually an altered version of one issued to Barack Obama's half-sister, Maya.) Aside from the inherent absurdity of such claims (i.e., that a major party presidential nominee would risk his entire candidacy on a fraud that could be uncovered simply by a check of state health records), the supposedly incriminating details don't pan out: the certificate is consistent with others issued in the same time and place, and the embossed seal and signature don't show through very well on the scanned front image made available on the Internet because they were applied to the back of the original document, not the front. Those who have actually touched and examined the original certificate have verified and documented that it bears all the elements of a valid certificate of live birth.

Moreover, both of Honolulu's major newspapers (the Advertiser and the Star-Bulletin) published announcements in August 1961 documenting the birth, in Honolulu, of a son to "Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama" on 4 August 1961
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I will go as far as to say that if you have examined the evidence and read the above, if you still believe that Obama was not born an American, you are a moron.
 
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Sabanocchio said:
I will go as far as to say that if you have examined the evidence and read the above, if you still believe that Obama was not born an American, you are a moron.
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I'm not feeling the love, Sab.

Would you write me a letter?

How about an avatar?
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#36
#36
MG1968 said:
that's a really poor photoshop.

In 1961, I doubt Hawaii, or any state, used "African" for "race".

and I realize that is probably an updated certificate, but the alphabetical entries look like they were added by photo editing software, especially the lower part with all the glare.

I am not a birther, btw. There are plenty of other, real, criticisms of Obama to focus on.
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This.

Plus we only have to put up with him for about another 2 and a half years.
 
#38
#38
This is why, after having released the certificate and after having had REPUBLICAN officials from Hawaii confirm the documentation, Obama just does not respond to this crap anymore. All sane people have come to the conclusion its a ridiculous myth that he is foreign-born. The loons will refuse to believe he is a citizen no matter what is offered up as proof. So why bother?
 
#39
#39
i'd argue he'd make a lot of people look pretty stupid if he paid the $10 and got a copy of his birth certificate. me thinks there must be SOME reason why he hasn't done so.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is why, after having released the certificate and after having had REPUBLICAN officials from Hawaii confirm the documentation, Obama just does not respond to this crap anymore. All sane people have come to the conclusion its a ridiculous myth that he is foreign-born. The loons will refuse to believe he is a citizen no matter what is offered up as proof. So why bother?
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There are people who still believe Bush brought down the twin towers. Stupid people exist on both sides.
 
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droski said:
i'd argue he'd make a lot of people look pretty stupid if he paid the $10 and got a copy of his birth certificate. me thinks there must be SOME reason why he hasn't done so.
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I'd argue they don't need his help to look pretty stupid.
 
#42
#42
tvolsfan said:
There are people who still believe Bush brought down the twin towers. Stupid people exist on both sides.
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The odd thing is, its right wing conservatives who buy into that theory, too.

The odder thing is, the people who think that Bush could engineer 9/11 or that Obama could fake the documentation of his place of birth are the very same people who think the government is beyond inept at everything it tries to do.
 
#43
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lawgator1 said:
The odd thing is, its right wing conservatives who buy into that theory, too.

The odder thing is, the people who think that Bush could engineer 9/11 or that Obama could fake the documentation of his place of birth are the very same people who think the government is beyond inept at everything it tries to do.
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Not so sure I agree with that.
 
#46
#46
droski said:
i'd argue he'd make a lot of people look pretty stupid if he paid the $10 and got a copy of his birth certificate. me thinks there must be SOME reason why he hasn't done so.
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I'd much rather see his college transcripts.
 
#50
#50
Cash Vallin said:
But digital is not proof! The original is not proof! A signed affidavit by the doctor who delivered him is not proof! Only a heavenly parchment signed by God Himself and delivered to Glenn Beck in studio while on camera might suffice. Oops, I forgot that Glenn Beck IS God Himself.
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