UK having potential NCAA problems

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BigOrangeTrain said:
18-17 since 2018. 2 10 win seasons. 4 straight bowl wins. Surpassed Bear Bryant’s record at UK. Has beaten Florida 3 out of the last 5 years. But yeah keep trying to say he isn’t a good head coach 🙄.
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Catspause would be a better place for that than Volnation
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
What does this article have to do with Stoops abilities as a head coach? You can try to denigrate him all you want. But Mark Stoops is a very good coach.
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He's the type coach that can take a middle of the pack team and win 8/9/10.
That's it, he's not winning the conference...he's not a playoff coach.
I'm with others, I don't get the attention he receives.
 
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Zues1 said:
He's the type coach that can take a middle of the pack team and win 8/9/10.
That's it, he's not winning the conference...he's not a playoff coach.
I'm with others, I don't get the attention he receives.
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You dont get it cause you, like many UT fans, take winning for granted. The same way many UK fans can have 30+ wins, get to sweet 16 or whatever, and be absolutely pissed.

Tradition dictates expectations and the face Stoops has taken us to the point where we EXPECT around 8 wins is incredible considering just 10 years ago or so we were grateful for a bowl game at 6 wins
 
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LittleCat said:
You dont get it cause you, like many UT fans, take winning for granted. The same way many UK fans can have 30+ wins, get to sweet 16 or whatever, and be absolutely pissed.

Tradition dictates expectations and the face Stoops has taken us to the point where we EXPECT around 8 wins is incredible considering just 10 years ago or so we were grateful for a bowl game at 6 wins
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This could be Stoops last season at Kentucky i could see him leaving for Auburn in December.
 
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OrangeVolMan said:
For going 18-17. LOL
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We like Heupel for going 7-6, even though he got blown out in our three biggest games against rivals.

Maybe, just maybe, the record isnt the only thing fans consider.

Who is Kentucky going to hire that would be better? Or why does Stoops suck beyond him not being better than arguably the best coach ever?

Y'alls wife's must be dogs, because they arent as hot as Emily Ratajowksi.
 
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LittleCat said:
You dont get it cause you, like many UT fans, take winning for granted. The same way many UK fans can have 30+ wins, get to sweet 16 or whatever, and be absolutely pissed.

Tradition dictates expectations and the face Stoops has taken us to the point where we EXPECT around 8 wins is incredible considering just 10 years ago or so we were grateful for a bowl game at 6 wins
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As was mentioned previously, no reason KY should not be winning 8 games a season.
Think back to all those seasons they padded their first half schedule with light weights to get 5 or 6 wins. Then fell on their faces.
Again the program should be on average at 8 wins a year....
It's not like we're talking about Slippery Rock U.
 
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Zues1 said:
As was mentioned previously, no reason KY should not be winning 8 games a season.
Think back to all those seasons they padded their first half schedule with light weights to get 5 or 6 wins. Then fell on their faces.
Again the program should be on average at 8 wins a year....
It's not like we're talking about Slippery Rock U.
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When Mark Stoops leaves(Which could be in December to Auburn) with how the Upper Ups at Kentucky think about football their football program will probably within a couple of seasons fall back again to the 4-6 win every season range after hiring a retread head coach or a mid level head coach or assistant from a big school on their way up.
 
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Zues1 said:
He's the type coach that can take a middle of the pack team and win 8/9/10.
That's it, he's not winning the conference...he's not a playoff coach.
I'm with others, I don't get the attention he receives.
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And you don’t think that’s impressive at Kentucky? Is he recruiting at a high level? No he isn’t. Winning 10 games a couple of times at UK is very impressive. Would we be talking about how good Heupel is if he wins 10 games a couple of times? Yes we would. Would we be talking Heupel up if he wins 4 straight bowl games? Yes we would.

Nobody is saying Stoops is the greatest coach. But he has put quite a few guys into the NFL, some of them in the first and second rounds. Surpassing Bear Bryant was a big deal. No head coach will ever win the SEC at Kentucky. Nor will any coach ever go to the playoffs at UK. If that’s your criteria for a good HC then there are only about 4 good coaches in college football.

I just don’t understand why some Vol fans have such a difficult time with giving coaches credit where it’s due.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
And you don’t think that’s impressive at Kentucky? Is he recruiting at a high level? No he isn’t. Winning 10 games a couple of times at UK is very impressive. Would we be talking about how good Heupel is if he wins 10 games a couple of times? Yes we would. Would we be talking Heupel up if he wins 4 straight bowl games? Yes we would.

Nobody is saying Stoops is the greatest coach. But he has put quite a few guys into the NFL, some of them in the first and second rounds. Surpassing Bear Bryant was a big deal. No head coach will ever win the SEC at Kentucky. Nor will any coach ever go to the playoffs at UK. If that’s your criteria for a good HC then there are only about 4 good coaches in college football.

I just don’t understand why some Vol fans have such a difficult time with giving coaches credit where it’s due.
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As I said winning 8 games at KY should be the norm.
Curci won 10 and 8
Claiborne won 9
Brooks won , 8,8,7,7 back to back.

Stoops has done a good job, a job he's expected to do.
He's 62 and 53. He's 30-45 in conference.
Stoops has been there longer than Bryant, Bryant's teams played fewer games per season?

I just don't understand all the love people give the guy.
 
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onevol74 said:
Then why is he at Kentucky?
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Because he’s making serious bank at a job that has mild expectations. He could have had the FSU job when they hired Norvell, but he turned them down. Money has completely changed coaching. Why is Luck Fickell still at Cincinnati? Why is Matt Campbell still at Iowa State? When you’re making a life changing salary already, why mess with happy?
 
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Boston Vol said:
Because he’s making serious bank at a job that has mild expectations. He could have had the FSU job when they hired Norvell, but he turned them down. Money has completely changed coaching. Why is Luck Fickell still at Cincinnati? Why is Matt Campbell still at Iowa State? When you’re making a life changing salary already, why mess with happy?
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Yep. Fickell makes what Heup does at Tennessee, post-raise. Guess which job is less stressful.

A quick Google search seems to indicate that when Butch left Cincy for Tennessee, his salary more than doubled ($1.5m to $3.4m).
 
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Zues1 said:
He's the type coach that can take a middle of the pack team and win 8/9/10.
That's it, he's not winning the conference...he's not a playoff coach.
I'm with others, I don't get the attention he receives.
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He does win those games at UK. He is a really good coach. Not great. Really good.
The amazing thing is he does it without a good OC.

Why would he go to Auburn where the pain is high?
I would think he would be happier at a B1G school. He has earned a better job. He can also stay at UK and be safe for a very long time.
 
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Zues1 said:
As I said winning 8 games at KY should be the norm.
Curci won 10 and 8
Claiborne won 9
Brooks won , 8,8,7,7 back to back.

Stoops has done a good job, a job he's expected to do.
He's 62 and 53. He's 30-45 in conference.
Stoops has been there longer than Bryant, Bryant's teams played fewer games per season?

I just don't understand all the love people give the guy.
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Curci was 47-53-2, losing record. One 9 win and one 10 win season.
Claireborne was 41-46-3. Had 1 9 win season.
Stoops is 62-53, with two 10 win seasons. That's better than any of the coaches you mentioned.

After Bear Bryant they had 5 total victories against UT, 2 of them were Stoops, the guys you mentioned only one 1 game. Stoops has them ranked for 3 straight years, you have to go back to Bryant to find that.


Compared to Kentuckys history Stoops is a good coach. He is a good Kentucky Head Football Coach, and there are undoubtedly multiple blue blood programs that have or will take a real hard look at stoops.
 
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LouderVol said:
Curci was 47-53-2, losing record. One 9 win and one 10 win season.
Claireborne was 41-46-3. Had 1 9 win season.
Stoops is 62-53, with two 10 win seasons. That's better than any of the coaches you mentioned.

After Bear Bryant they had 5 total victories against UT, 2 of them were Stoops, the guys you mentioned only one 1 game. Stoops has them ranked for 3 straight years, you have to go back to Bryant to find that.


Compared to Kentuckys history Stoops is a good coach. He is a good Kentucky Head Football Coach, and there are undoubtedly multiple blue blood programs that have or will take a real hard look at stoops.
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They also were playing Oklahoma and Penn St and such in OOC play. Not Eastern Kentucky and Murray St
 
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LittleCat said:
You dont get it cause you, like many UT fans, take winning for granted. The same way many UK fans can have 30+ wins, get to sweet 16 or whatever, and be absolutely pissed.

Tradition dictates expectations and the face Stoops has taken us to the point where we EXPECT around 8 wins is incredible considering just 10 years ago or so we were grateful for a bowl game at 6 wins
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Please list in your opinion of course; what Stoops’ 10 biggest wins at UK have been
 
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LouderVol said:
Curci was 47-53-2, losing record. One 9 win and one 10 win season.
Claireborne was 41-46-3. Had 1 9 win season.
Stoops is 62-53, with two 10 win seasons. That's better than any of the coaches you mentioned.

After Bear Bryant they had 5 total victories against UT, 2 of them were Stoops, the guys you mentioned only one 1 game. Stoops has them ranked for 3 straight years, you have to go back to Bryant to find that.


Compared to Kentuckys history Stoops is a good coach. He is a good Kentucky Head Football Coach, and there are undoubtedly multiple blue blood programs that have or will take a real hard look at stoops.
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30-45 in conference. Average.
I was not cherry picking. If so I could have pointed out Stoops 2 win and 5 win seasons. Again ky should be winning 8+ per season. Like Tennessee they have made a lot of bad coaching hires.
Lastly why are people on a Tennessee Volunteers forum propping up this guy?
Are fans of other forums, Ky, Ga etc propping up anything Tennessee does?
I just don't get the lovefest for another program. I also don't get while fans from other programs hang out here telling us how good they are 🤷
 
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