Updated R-nomination Thread

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#26
No matter how you voted today, do you usually think of yourself as a:
Total Paul Gingrich Romney Perry Santorum Huntsman
Democrat
4% 25% 4% 14% 1% 6% 40%
Republican
49% 15% 12% 49% 1% 13% 10%
Independent or something else
47% 31% 8% 30% - 7% 22%
 
#27
#27
Before voting today, were you:
Total Paul Gingrich Romney Perry Santorum Huntsman
Registered as Undeclared/Independent
45% 30% 5% 33% 1% 7% 23%
Registered as a Republican
53% 14% 14% 49% 1% 12% 10%
Not registered
2% - - - - - -
 
#28
#28
On most political matters, do you consider yourself:
Total Paul Gingrich Romney Perry Santorum Huntsman
Very liberal
3% - - - - - -
Somewhat liberal
10% 31% 2% 33% 1% 5% 23%
Moderate
35% 24% 4% 40% - 4% 25%
Somewhat conservative
32% 19% 11% 48% - 7% 13%
Very conservative
21% 18% 17% 33% 1% 26% 4%
 
#29
#29
I was watching Fox a little and they interviewed folks coming out. It was astounding the degree to which you could predict who voted for who based on appearance.

The 40s guy in a suit voted for Romney because he can beat Obama.

The early 20s kid with the beard is self-described libertarian who voted for Paul.

Angry looking construction guy voted for Newt.

Uptight 60s lady with hair in 1950s style voted for Santorum.
 
#30
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volfanjustin said:
Why should it be a major story? Both Iowa and NH were open to any voters of any party. SC will be much tougher because they have to be a registered R to vote.

He lost by about 40,000 votes and a good portion of his voters would never vote R they are dems.
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lawgator1 said:
I can't tell if it is that Fox, institutionally, buys into the notion that Romney is not really conservative, that his Mormonism remains a problem for the Fox execs, or that they are worried a la Limbaugh and others that Romney is too bland and can't win.

If Romney is the nominee, they will get behind him. Hannity, Coulter, Malkin, Kristol, will all swallow their prior criticism and promote him, at least in juxtaposition to Obama.
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Coulter endorsed Romney last October and has been shilling for him since.
 
#32
#32
Those percentages are funny. What constitutes that percentage? It doesn't read right across, or down (Gingrich's are all low) for any logical explanation.
 
#33
#33
"Conservatives" should just come out and say we don't really want small government, that the defense budget can't ever be too big, and while you can't force your social beliefs on me, I'm sure as hell gonna force mine on you. I'm sick of them claiming to believe in the Constitution, claiming to believe in limited government, and then completely bash the only man who is serious about doing both, all the while pouring accolades on Santorum, who is W 2.0.
 
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lumberjack4 said:
"Conservatives" should just come out and say we don't really want small government, that the defense budget can't ever be too big, and while you can't force your social beliefs on me, I'm sure as hell gonna force mine on you. I'm sick of them claiming to believe in the Constitution, claiming to believe in limited government, and then completely bash the only man who is serious about doing both, all the while pouring accolades on Santorum, who is W 2.0.
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while not universally true....:clapping:
 
#35
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volfanjustin said:
Why should it be a major story? Both Iowa and NH were open to any voters of any party. SC will be much tougher because they have to be a registered R to vote.

He lost by about 40,000 votes and a good portion of his voters would never vote R they are dems.
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Because:

1) He's in second place by virtue of his finishes in Iowa and NH

2) He's doing better than expected.
 
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Will be interesting if paul finishes second after this is all over, given the r tendency to nominate the second in line from the previous run.
 
#40
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Romney on the military from last night:

He doesnÂ’t see the need for overwhelming American military superiority. I will insist on a military so powerful no one would think of challenging it.

“He chastises friends like Israel; I’ll stand with our friends.

“He apologizes for America; I will never apologize for the greatest nation in the history of the Earth.
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This is where the Republican base loses me. $$$$$$$

edit: Support Vietnam.....Get deferment.

Internal Affairs: Mitt Romney was a '60s protester who protested protesters - San Jose Mercury News

In any case, it turns out Romney wasn't exactly an opponent of deferments. He got one himself.

As a Mormon missionary, he took a "ministerial deferment" from the draft -- and served his time, not in Vietnam, but in France.
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"I will never apologize for the greatest nation in the history of the world." - Romney

Ummm, say we are the greatest country ever...that doesn't mean we don't make mistakes. I find this statement alarming.
 
#42
#42
That's going to be his stand on American exceptionalism. It may well be alarming to many, but it will play well with many more.
 
#43
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milohimself said:
That's going to be his stand on American exceptionalism. It may well be alarming to many, but it will play well with many more.
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Better than hearing "You cant take trips to Vegas" and "Fly around in your corporate jet" crap that BHO spues on a weekly basis
 
#45
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volinbham said:
Kinda what I was saying in the OP - the story is already written; regardless of the facts that come out.

Ron Paul is clearly in second place after the first 2 primaries.

It should be a major story - he is doing much better than expected.
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A little objectivity should show through.
 
#46
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nbakerld said:
"I will never apologize for the greatest nation in the history of the world." - Romney

Ummm, say we are the greatest country ever...that doesn't mean we don't make mistakes. I find this statement alarming.
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milohimself said:
That's going to be his stand on American exceptionalism. It may well be alarming to many, but it will play well with many more.
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What am I missing? Why is believing in American Exceptionalism alarming?
 
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volinbham said:
What am I missing? Why is believing in American Exceptionalism alarming?
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If it's just exceptionalism, then I'm not a big fan, but I'm OK with it. What we often call exceptionalism is actually jingoism. Pretending that the US would never have anything for which we should apologize is jingoism...the dangerous kind of exceptionalism, IMO.
 
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nbakerld said:
"I will never apologize for the greatest nation in the history of the world." - Romney

Ummm, say we are the greatest country ever...that doesn't mean we don't make mistakes. I find this statement alarming.
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Meh, it doesn't bother me. He's just channeling the hawks trying to make it seem like Obama is weak on foreign policy and goes around the world apologizing to everyone.

Its a common refrain, used by every GOP candidate about every Dem since the 1960s. Anyone who would be influenced by such a statement is already going to vote for Romney, anyway.

Honestly, I think Obama probably relishes the notion of Romney coming after him as somehow too soft. Will stick that claim right up Romney's arse by repeating surge in Afghanistan and I got UBL and pissed off Pakistan in the process. Profitable issue for Obama, imo.

Romney needs to stick to domestic economy, spending, deficits,
 
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lawgator1 said:
Meh, it doesn't bother me. He's just channeling the hawks trying to make it seem like Obama is weak on foreign policy and goes around the world apologizing to everyone.

Its a common refrain, used by every GOP candidate about every Dem since the 1960s. Anyone who would be influenced by such a statement is already going to vote for Romney, anyway.

Honestly, I think Obama probably relishes the notion of Romney coming after him as somehow too soft. Will stick that claim right up Romney's arse by repeating surge in Afghanistan and I got UBL and pissed off Pakistan in the process. Profitable issue for Obama, imo.

Romney needs to stick to domestic economy, spending, deficits,
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...and then they expand military efforts/go to war. Hence my worry.
 
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nbakerld said:
If it's just exceptionalism, then I'm not a big fan, but I'm OK with it. What we often call exceptionalism is actually jingoism. Pretending that the US would never have anything for which we should apologize is jingoism...the dangerous kind of exceptionalism, IMO.
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I hear you but don't think that's what Romney was saying. I think he was saying he won't apologize for believing America is the greatest country not that American has never or will never do anything that should be apologized for.

I believe in American exceptionalism but have a long list of things we screwed up and deserve apologies including the sterilization stuff Trut posted earlier.
 
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