Urban Meyer Article

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Thought you might enjoy this article:
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Talks about CUM's philosophy.
 
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Good read. He seems to really have his ducks in a row to be successful in the future.
 
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My thoughts too. Don't care for the gators, but he seems to be on the right track to have a positive program. It would be nice to see some of these things implimented at UT.
 
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Yeah, theres not one thing Meyer has done that hasnt impressed me. I think the work ethic, discipline, and attitude of the team will translate onto the field. I love how the players are always in check, its a lot better than Zooks teams.
 
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Establish a new found discipline,bring a new work ethic to the team that was sorely lacking, and bring the team together as well as light a fire under every one associated with the program.


Yeah, youre right. Nothing.
 
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 1, 2005 7:11 PM
There's not one thing he has done yet either.
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Kept his players out of the courtroom maybe? :question:
 
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Oh yes. He SINGLEHANDEDLY sat there and held the hands of the players and locked thier doors at night. He kept EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM from doing something bad. Damn, I wish Fulmer would have done that.....oh wait, that's just silly to think that one man could actually have the control over all those kids. It's silly to give one man all that credit, or, all that blame in Fulmer's case.

You know, believe it or not, sometimes, just sometimes, people make thier own decisions.
 
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So what youre saying is, Fulmer shouldnt be blammed for having tons of players arrested, but at the same time, Meyer shouldnt be given credit for keeping his players out of trouble? Believe it or not, some coaches (and their staffs) keep a close eye on their players and make sure theyre in check at all times, and make sure that they live their lives the right way. Some dont. That is a fact.
 
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 1, 2005 11:05 PM
Oh yes.  He SINGLEHANDEDLY sat there and held the hands of the players and locked thier doors at night.  He kept EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM from doing something bad.  Damn, I wish Fulmer would have done that.....oh wait, that's just silly to think that one man could actually have the control over all those kids.  It's silly to give one man all that credit, or, all that blame in Fulmer's case. 

You know, believe it or not, sometimes, just sometimes, people make thier own decisions.
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Believe it or not, there is a old school way to do things, and a new school way to do things. Look, I am am a big fan of CPF. Why is it so hard to believe that sometimes others have a different, more effective way of doing things. Beltway, you need to get over yourself, thinking that yours is the only opinion that is worth a rats ass. It gets old fast.
 
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Actually, what gets old, is a select few, thinking that I don't respect other's opinions. Why in the bloody hell would I post on a message board, and ask for people's discussion, if I didn't want and respect their answers. It would be like standing in traffic, but not wanting to get hit.

People have a hard time understanding that we are all different. I don't post the way you do, and I don't put my points across the same way you do. Just because I do it my way, doesn't mean that I don't respect the way that you do it. I'm sorry you don't like the way I post, but I would, and I'm sure Freak would appreciate you giving me more pointers like this previous one here, in a private message instead of screwing up a perfectly good thread with your personal attack.

And believe you me, I will be more than happy to discuss anyone's feelings about me in a private message.
 
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What I was trying to say Gatorville, was that I don't think that Fulmer is to blame for this recent rash of problems, and I do not think that Meyer deserves all the credit for Gators not getting in trouble this season. These things come in cycles, regardless whom the coach is. You have to understand we are still talking about kids. These guys are in their last years of being kids, and they are going to do what they are going to do, regardless of what the coach says.

Fulmer has been pretty hard on discipline every since he became head coach. That didn't stop these guys from doing what they did this offseason, and some of them are paying the price now.

That was the point I was attempting to make.
 
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 1, 2005 6:11 PM
There's not one thing he has done yet either.
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Absolutely!

Could we let 'em hike the darned thing a few times before we put him in the Hall of Fame.
 
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Originally posted by BeltwayVol@Aug 1, 2005 10:05 PM
Oh yes.  He SINGLEHANDEDLY sat there and held the hands of the players and locked thier doors at night.  He kept EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM from doing something bad.  Damn, I wish Fulmer would have done that.....oh wait, that's just silly to think that one man could actually have the control over all those kids.  It's silly to give one man all that credit, or, all that blame in Fulmer's case. 

You know, believe it or not, sometimes, just sometimes, people make thier own decisions.
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And, if Meyere did those things, I'm almost certain he has violated the summer contact rules of the NCAA.

 
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Some teams are more disciplined than others. A lot of that falls on the coaches. Look at UF last year, they were like USC, UGA, and UT, always getting into trouble. This year, nothing. You cant say that it has nothing to do with Meyer when hes the main reason all this is happening. Fulmer and his staff should definately be blammed. Their job is to look out for these guys, and make sure that they do whats right on and off the field. He along with his coaching staff are not doing a very good job of that.
 
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Give me a break . . . . :disappointed:

If you can get off the high horse . . . do yourself a favor and realize that these things happen everywhere and run in cycles. Two weeks from now there could be problems at Florida or anywhere else. I'm glad you guys haven't had any problems recently, but rest assured, it'll happen again.



 
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I'm not glad. I hope they have disciplinary problems and get put back on probation real soon.

Speaking of probation and of things running in cycles, wasn't UF ineligible for the SEC Championship in '84 and '85, as well as Spurrier's first year in 1990? I know that was under a different coach's watch (Ray Graves?), but problems like that do run in cycles. (Knock on wood, Vols fans)

I'll take a little negative publicity and a handful of suspensions over NCAA probation (and the opportunity to play for the SEC Title) anyday of the week.
 
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What drives me crazy is the notion that coaches have absolute control over the actions of 100 18-22 year olds. They try to set an example, but sometimes the discipline works and sometimes it doesn't.

Look at UGA. I can tell you from personal contact that there isn't a more devout man than Mark Richt, yet UGA has had a tough offseason. It's not his fault though. It's just the nature of working with a large collection of high profile college students.
 
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I dont buy it. I think the coach controls the team. Yeah, maybe one or two knuckleheads get out of line, maybe. But When 10-15 players are? That has to reflect on the coach. And when UF had the same problems last year, and they are all of a sudden gone, that has to reflect on the coach. You cant tell me that coaches dont control discipline on their team, you just cant.
 
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GatorVille, try going into a room loaded with fine china and one hundred 3-year-olds crawling around and try not to have any of the wares broken.
 
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Let me first say that I do very much admire what Urban is doing down in Gainesville. I think he will do a good job down there.

I do think he is setting himself up for some type of failure this year. If he goes unbeaten through the first few games then everything he is doing right now with the champions club, the fancy dinners, etc. will be working perfectly. However, what if he loses 2 of 3 SEC games to open the season? Do you think that there will be some resentment among the players? Will they think his system is worth all the BS? What about the players not in the champions club? Do you think they will care about that crap then? Hell no they won't.

That is why I think the first few games for Urban are crucial. If he starts offslow then I think all the team chemistry built over the summer will come crashing down. Alot of those pro-Zook players will not continue to buy into his system.

I still think he messed up by not going to Notre Dame. Thatplace was perfect for him. Perfect for his offense. His offense is not suited for the SEC IMO.
 
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Meyer is obviously a solid coach. I think he has brought to Florida a new lease on life, so to speak. He has also brought discipline, which the Zooker lacked in a big way. But he has not brought any wins, yet. If there was a prize for pointing and starring, Urban would win hands down. It seems that is the only thing he is doing in the hundreds, if not thousands of pictures I have seen of him in the last 2 months.


What drives me crazy is the notion that coaches have absolute control over the actions of 100 18-22 year olds. They try to set an example, but sometimes the discipline works and sometimes it doesn't.

Look at UGA. I can tell you from personal contact that there isn't a more devout man than Mark Richt, yet UGA has had a tough offseason. It's not his fault though. It's just the nature of working with a large collection of high profile college students.
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GAVol I couldn't agree with you more. I think Coach Meyer has been lucky so far. I am sure that the players are minding their behavior, because they are uncertain about Meyer, and want to play. Once the newness wears off I am sure some Gators too will be visiting the local lock-up.
 
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So you think those same players that gave zook grief last year decided to be good this year for the new coach? A coach and the staff have a lot to do with how the players act. Read some of the articles on Urban. He and the coaches are in their dorms making sure they live the right way, make sure they go to church if their parents want them too, have their families, girlfrieds, and cell phone #s and call all the time. They make sure they live their life the right way.


But youre right, Urban has nothing to do with the 0 arrests in G-ville this year.
 
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Originally posted by GatorVille@Aug 2, 2005 9:37 PM
He and the coaches are in their dorms making sure they live the right way, make sure they go to church if their parents want them too, have their families, girlfrieds, and cell phone #s and call all the time.  They make sure they live their life the right way.
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Newsflash: Every coaching staff in America does stuff like this.
 
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