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www.secsports.com - 2007 SEC Football Coaches Press Conference

In the SEC teleconference today (around the 22:45 mark), he said something that I've been pointing out as the key to his success (and the reason why he will win another National Championship in the next 3 seasons).

"...especially the way we're going to recruit from here on out. We recruit every freshman now to play. There's no redshirts at Florida. You're going to play."
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What a recruiting tool. He will run circles around the rest of the conference in talent alone because kids want to play, and he's giving them an opportunity to play. He's also not afraid to give it to freshmen playmakers (i.e. Percy Harvin, Tim Tebow).

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allvol123 said:
yea there is only 25 good players a year that come out of florida.
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well florida is the best recruiting state...add that to Meyer's recent success and you have got a stacked team every year...but as we saw in 2005, recruiting does not directly lead to success and i am still not convinced that Meyer's offense will work in the SEC in the long run.
 
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
1. He has the Florida pipeline locked up.
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Yep...Florida St. and Miami may as well pack it up and focus on tennis.

Florida is the hot team in the state right now, but they'll still get plenty of competition on the recruiting trail from FSU and Miami...and there are some kids who just want to get away from Florida and play out of state. The Gators will recruit well, but it's not as if they'll be the only team getting good players.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
well florida is the best recruiting state...add that to Meyer's recent success and you have got a stacked team every year...but as we saw in 2005, recruiting does not directly lead to success and i am still not convinced that Meyer's offense will work in the SEC in the long run.
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He made it work with a QB that wasn't even mobile. Now he has Tim Tebow and Harvin and is not afraid to put freshmen in positions to make plays.

This is bad news...
 
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I am not trying to defend this guy, but I think the fact that Florida play a lot of true freshmen (13 last year, if I am not wrong) will be a very good selling point to their recruits, especially those high school standouts.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Yep...Florida St. and Miami may as well pack it up and focus on tennis.

Florida is the hot team in the state right now, but they'll still get plenty of competition on the recruiting trail from FSU and Miami...and there are some kids who just want to get away from Florida and play out of state. The Gators will recruit well, but it's not as if they'll be the only team getting good players.
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FSU is in a downward spiral with Bobby Bowden. He was able to cover his coaching flaws with trick plays until the early 90's and talent going into the late 90's/2000. I actually consider him a worse gameday coach than Fulmer (just my opinion).

Miami is in transition and could be back in 2 years, but right now, the momentum is going in Florida's direction.

Like I said, in the next 3 seasons, Florida will win it all again. Book it...
 
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
He made it work with a QB that wasn't even mobile. Now he has Tim Tebow and Harvin and is not afraid to put freshmen in positions to make plays.

This is bad news...
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you talking as if tebow is a better qb than leak...here in gville, all they used to talk about ws if tebow should be starting...fla fans really don't know how much they will miss out of leak until they see tebow start...tebow will be a bust, write it down...harvin on the other hand is talent and with the right play calls (which was an issue for fla last year), he will run all over fla's opponents....
 
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The only problem with this philosophy is that it is self-defeating.

If you get the best players in the nation in the class of 2010, some of them are going to see the field. If you do the same for 2011, some will see the field. However, for the class of 2012, you will begin running out of opportunities for these freshman to get playing time.

It is a good philosophy while installing a completely overhauled offense. However, it dries up quickly.
 
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Tebow could be a bust, but his poise last year showed some real potential. I'm hoping he is a bust, but I'm not counting on it.
 
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Sudeepvol said:
you talking as if tebow is a better qb than leak...here in gville, all they used to talk about ws if tebow should be starting...fla fans really don't know how much they will miss out of leak until they see tebow start...tebow will be a bust, write it down...harvin on the other hand is talent and with the right play calls (which was an issue for fla last year), he will run all over fla's opponents....
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Tebow will not be throwing the ball around the field like Leak his first 2 seasons in Florida. You will see Florida run a lot of misdirection plays to catch overly aggresive/undisciplined defensive teams in bad situations. :ermm:
 
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therealUT said:
The only problem with this philosophy is that it is self-defeating.

If you get the best players in the nation in the class of 2010, some of them are going to see the field. If you do the same for 2011, some will see the field. However, for the class of 2012, you will begin running out of opportunities for these freshman to get playing time.

It is a good philosophy while installing a completely overhauled offense. However, it dries up quickly.
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I disagree. By their junior year (or the summer of a players junior year), you can make a determination about whether you want to ride that player or bring in a freshman to give the upperclassman a push.

You're not supposed to be handing out playing time based on tenure... give it out based on performance. Or if the performance of the upperclassmen gives you about as much on the field as a newcomer, side with youth and try to develope the younger guy.
 
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Jaytrain5 said:
Yep...Florida St. and Miami may as well pack it up and focus on tennis.

Florida is the hot team in the state right now, but they'll still get plenty of competition on the recruiting trail from FSU and Miami...and there are some kids who just want to get away from Florida and play out of state. The Gators will recruit well, but it's not as if they'll be the only team getting good players.
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I think that the jury is still out on Miami. that is a team that had a lot of problems and some real disadvantages to Florida in terms of facilities and right now Florida is the place to go if you are speedy and want to go to the nfl, but don't want to go to school far from home. Fsu I think is in real trouble if they don't show improvement right away with the new coaches.
 
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If you are bringing in freshman that are good enough to see significant minutes in 2007, then I am willing to bet they are going to be good enough to secure that position in 2009 and 2010.
 
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therealUT said:
If you are bringing in freshman that are good enough to see significant minutes in 2007, then I am willing to bet they are going to be good enough to secure that position in 2009 and 2010.
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Not all 13 of Florida's freshmen from last year will be starters in 2009. There is no guarantee of that.

Demetrice Morley and Brent Scheaffer played as freshmen...
 
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therealUT said:
If you are bringing in freshman that are good enough to see significant minutes in 2007, then I am willing to bet they are going to be good enough to secure that position in 2009 and 2010.
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A lot of those players will be starting in 2008 and 2009, and then be leaving before their senior season in 2010. I think Urban will have room to play a few freshmen every year. They might not all be starters, but they'll be able to find some PT.
 
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kptvol said:
A lot of those players will be starting in 2008 and 2009, and then be leaving before their senior season in 2010. I think Urban will have room to play a few freshmen every year. They might not all be starters, but they'll be able to find some PT.
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Plus, it's not like Tebow and Harvin took up a lot of plays from the upperclassmen. tebow probably played about 8-10 snaps a game... maybe.

Harvin probably rotated in with receivers and played some on special teams.

It is easy to move players in and out on the defensive line (which Meyer said he will do this year with 5 freshmen), receiver, and running back.

But heck, he even got plays in for Tebow at QB. If you can do it at QB, you can do it at just about any position.
 
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Yeah... thought he played some on special teams also. He seemed to be doing everything else (running/receiving)...
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He probably rotated in at WR? He played alot there. Caldwell and Baker have better statistics but he played there quite a bit.

He also was the only homerun threat at TB.
 
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justingroves said:
He probably rotated in at WR? He played alot there. Caldwell and Baker have better statistics but he played there quite a bit.

He also was the only homerun threat at TB.
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Seriously... that guy is scarry good. Just shows the type of impact you can have if you are given a chance to make plays... even if you are a freshman.
 
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Tenn_Vol_Authority said:
Seriously... that guy is scarry good. Just shows the type of impact you can have if you are given a chance to make plays... even if you are a freshman.
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Every recruit that is rated as #1 should produce as freshmen. Look at Adrian Peterson, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims and so forth. It's not a suprise they made an impact as freshmen. It's pretty obvious why they were rated this high.

Is it UT's fault that they don't get a guy like Peterson? He was from Texas. The only colleges in the running were Texas and Oklahoma. Or Ginn? He's from Cleveland and went to Ohio State. Ernie Sims was from Florida and went to FSU.
 
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