US Expansion

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BeardedVol said:
You should probably read the article he posted before you try to participate in the conversation; first paragraph at least.
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I read the article just fine. If you think it's advocating for jumping straight into a military action, perhaps you ought to turn your brain on.

The literal last line talks about what I'm getting at in my post just above yours. 🥴
 
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ButchPlz said:
Literally nobody in here is doing that. Is your food-filled unwashed beard pulling bloodflow from your brain somehow?
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Actually, what it looks like is even less aid to NATO and Greenland. Trump may have a point to all this, I am assuming he is saying they're not doing their part. I see no reason why Americans need to die or America should be supporting all this without some type of skin in the game i.e. NATO, I think that may be a point as well. 🤷‍♂️

The thought process before was protection of the dollar, but as witnessed over the last 15 years or so... there is no out on the dollar, there is only in... until reset.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually, what it looks like is even less aid to NATO and Greenland. Trump may have a point to all this, I am assuming he is saying they're not doing their part.
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When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part. They've relied on us to prop up everything (and I mean nearly everyone in the world) and maintain world stability and peace while calling us every name under the sun (including imperialists, selfish, whatever). Because of that, our politicians largely back out of flexing our strength in ways that are meaningful and good for Americans (and what is good for Americans is frequently good for the world), and instead just crap resources into wasteful places like Ukraine. The thing that kills me about people that think "hurr durr Trump threatening war" is that they forget we historically had a policy of using our economic and industrial strength while walking around with our giant stick in hand- not using it, but making sure people knew it was there.

China is doing that today and eating our lunch around the world, and unfortunately eating everyone else's too. Because of dingbats whose brains can apparently only process information unilaterally, if we have someone that says "damn, we need to preserve our trade routes and economic interests abroad, we don't want to use our stick, but we will to put you in line if you don't listen" they start ranting and raving like lunatics. The neat thing about this country is that once that stick is shown, almost everyone falls in line, because they know American influence in their country gives them more freedom to be themselves and to prosper, whereas China just uses and abuses.
 
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ButchPlz said:
When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part.
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The whole world is supporting the U.S. via the U.S. dollar/federal reserve system from which there is no escape until reset. Meaning, the speak for much of this time for global stability. I would say we are generally doing things to make things unstable as a generalization. So, somewhere in the last 2+ decades it went from stability to support the global U.S. dollar/federal reserve system to instability to support that system.

The more I think about it, the more what Trump is saying makes sense I think i.e. skin in the game. Americans should not causing instability nor should it be sacrificing Americans or assets without skin.

If we don't have skin in the game than getting out makes sense. Get the neocons out of all this though.

Just my take.
 
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BeardedVol said:
It's funny to watch people who rail against giving military aid to Ukraine, stumble all over themselves to support the idea of US military adventurism in Panama.
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LOL

You again miss the mark. I in no way support invading Panama to secure the canal, been there done that. There are much less bloody ways to accomplish that task.
 
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The talk from the 60s to 90s was supporting the "petro dollar", but really what the U.S. is doing is causing the world to be in chaos. Trump makes more sense to me on this subject as time goes on because the globe can't ditch the U.S. dollar without Reset. So, stop the neocons and globalist, generally speaking if the U.S. doesn't have skin in the game.... its not our problem.

Why exactly are we a part of NATO? (as a generalization) 🤷‍♂️ Let them provide for their own defense or offense. If they want to fight Russia, be my guest.
 
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ButchPlz said:
When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part. They've relied on us to prop up everything (and I mean nearly everyone in the world) and maintain world stability and peace while calling us every name under the sun (including imperialists, selfish, whatever). Because of that, our politicians largely back out of flexing our strength in ways that are meaningful and good for Americans (and what is good for Americans is frequently good for the world), and instead just crap resources into wasteful places like Ukraine. The thing that kills me about people that think "hurr durr Trump threatening war" is that they forget we historically had a policy of using our economic and industrial strength while walking around with our giant stick in hand- not using it, but making sure people knew it was there.

China is doing that today and eating our lunch around the world, and unfortunately eating everyone else's too. Because of dingbats whose brains can apparently only process information unilaterally, if we have someone that says "damn, we need to preserve our trade routes and economic interests abroad, we don't want to use our stick, but we will to put you in line if you don't listen" they start ranting and raving like lunatics. The neat thing about this country is that once that stick is shown, almost everyone falls in line, because they know American influence in their country gives them more freedom to be themselves and to prosper, whereas China just uses and abuses.
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And China is using our (the US taxpayer) money to do it.
 
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Let all the nutjob States go and I would play ball with Greenland, heck I would think about moving there. I actually would love Svalbard but Norway starting sipping the nutjob koolaid.
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(I do wonder if this has anything to do with Russia building out the Northern Sea route)
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually, what it looks like is even less aid to NATO and Greenland. Trump may have a point to all this, I am assuming he is saying they're not doing their part. I see no reason why Americans need to die or America should be supporting all this without some type of skin in the game i.e. NATO, I think that may be a point as well. 🤷‍♂️

The thought process before was protection of the dollar, but as witnessed over the last 15 years or so... there is no out on the dollar, there is only in... until reset.
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I seriously doubt we take over Greenland in any manner. I think the end game will be exclusive mining rights agreement and some type of defense agreement. It will specifically call out that China and Russia are NOT allowed in Greenland including for mining rights.
 
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The issue with Greenland independence is that they only have like 50k people in their entire country.

On paper, the best arrangement for Greenland would be a union with Iceland or, as a second option, to join Canada since they are physical closer to these nations. Iceland likely has a more common culture.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
The Canada thing was just to piss off Trudeau and the libs/MSM. However I think the Canal and Greenland are major National Security issues. The PC should have never been turned over to Panama. We built it and many Americans lost their lives doing it. If China were to rangle control of it. We would be in trouble.

I think the ultimate goal with Greenland is to add probably an Air Force base there.
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Have we asked to put another base there?
 
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I'm all about annexing Canada and making Greenland an overseas territory...

I'm all about keeping Chinese influence out of the Panama Canal...

But why stop there? I think Cuba would make a dandy territory too. I think the people might go for it.

We need more stars on the flag.
 
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