US Expansion

[ButchPlz]

You should probably read the article he posted before you try to participate in the conversation; first paragraph at least.

I read the article just fine. If you think it's advocating for jumping straight into a military action, perhaps you ought to turn your brain on.

The literal last line talks about what I'm getting at in my post just above yours.

 

[BeardedVol]

He's afraid of anything that would take focus away from Ukraine.

It's funny to watch people who rail against giving military aid to Ukraine, stumble all over themselves to support the idea of US military adventurism in Panama.

 

[Orangeburst]

He's afraid of anything that would take focus away from Ukraine.

you can tell who has never negotiated a deal.

 

[ButchPlz]

It's funny to watch people who rail against giving military aid to Ukraine, stumble all over themselves to support the idea of US military adventurism in Panama.

Literally nobody in here is doing that. Is your food-filled unwashed beard pulling bloodflow from your brain somehow?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Literally nobody in here is doing that. Is your food-filled unwashed beard pulling bloodflow from your brain somehow?

Actually, what it looks like is even less aid to NATO and Greenland. Trump may have a point to all this, I am assuming he is saying they're not doing their part. I see no reason why Americans need to die or America should be supporting all this without some type of skin in the game i.e. NATO, I think that may be a point as well.

The thought process before was protection of the dollar, but as witnessed over the last 15 years or so... there is no out on the dollar, there is only in... until reset.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Sounds like a bunch of Cowboy fans are still butt hurt about the Annexation Of Puerto Rico.

 

[ButchPlz]

Actually, what it looks like is even less aid to NATO and Greenland. Trump may have a point to all this, I am assuming he is saying they're not doing their part.

When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part. They've relied on us to prop up everything (and I mean nearly everyone in the world) and maintain world stability and peace while calling us every name under the sun (including imperialists, selfish, whatever). Because of that, our politicians largely back out of flexing our strength in ways that are meaningful and good for Americans (and what is good for Americans is frequently good for the world), and instead just crap resources into wasteful places like Ukraine. The thing that kills me about people that think "hurr durr Trump threatening war" is that they forget we historically had a policy of using our economic and industrial strength while walking around with our giant stick in hand- not using it, but making sure people knew it was there.

China is doing that today and eating our lunch around the world, and unfortunately eating everyone else's too. Because of dingbats whose brains can apparently only process information unilaterally, if we have someone that says "damn, we need to preserve our trade routes and economic interests abroad, we don't want to use our stick, but we will to put you in line if you don't listen" they start ranting and raving like lunatics. The neat thing about this country is that once that stick is shown, almost everyone falls in line, because they know American influence in their country gives them more freedom to be themselves and to prosper, whereas China just uses and abuses.

 

[LSU-SIU]

When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part.

The whole world is supporting the U.S. via the U.S. dollar/federal reserve system from which there is no escape until reset. Meaning, the speak for much of this time for global stability. I would say we are generally doing things to make things unstable as a generalization. So, somewhere in the last 2+ decades it went from stability to support the global U.S. dollar/federal reserve system to instability to support that system.

The more I think about it, the more what Trump is saying makes sense I think i.e. skin in the game. Americans should not causing instability nor should it be sacrificing Americans or assets without skin.

If we don't have skin in the game than getting out makes sense. Get the neocons out of all this though.

Just my take.

 

[hog88]

It's funny to watch people who rail against giving military aid to Ukraine, stumble all over themselves to support the idea of US military adventurism in Panama.

LOL

You again miss the mark. I in no way support invading Panama to secure the canal, been there done that. There are much less bloody ways to accomplish that task.

 

[LSU-SIU]

The talk from the 60s to 90s was supporting the "petro dollar", but really what the U.S. is doing is causing the world to be in chaos. Trump makes more sense to me on this subject as time goes on because the globe can't ditch the U.S. dollar without Reset. So, stop the neocons and globalist, generally speaking if the U.S. doesn't have skin in the game.... its not our problem.

Why exactly are we a part of NATO? (as a generalization) Let them provide for their own defense or offense. If they want to fight Russia, be my guest.

 

[hog88]

When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part. They've relied on us to prop up everything (and I mean nearly everyone in the world) and maintain world stability and peace while calling us every name under the sun (including imperialists, selfish, whatever). Because of that, our politicians largely back out of flexing our strength in ways that are meaningful and good for Americans (and what is good for Americans is frequently good for the world), and instead just crap resources into wasteful places like Ukraine. The thing that kills me about people that think "hurr durr Trump threatening war" is that they forget we historically had a policy of using our economic and industrial strength while walking around with our giant stick in hand- not using it, but making sure people knew it was there.

China is doing that today and eating our lunch around the world, and unfortunately eating everyone else's too. Because of dingbats whose brains can apparently only process information unilaterally, if we have someone that says "damn, we need to preserve our trade routes and economic interests abroad, we don't want to use our stick, but we will to put you in line if you don't listen" they start ranting and raving like lunatics. The neat thing about this country is that once that stick is shown, almost everyone falls in line, because they know American influence in their country gives them more freedom to be themselves and to prosper, whereas China just uses and abuses.

And China is using our (the US taxpayer) money to do it.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Let all the nutjob States go and I would play ball with Greenland, heck I would think about moving there. I actually would love Svalbard but Norway starting sipping the nutjob koolaid.


(I do wonder if this has anything to do with Russia building out the Northern Sea route)

 

[volbound1700]

Actually, what it looks like is even less aid to NATO and Greenland. Trump may have a point to all this, I am assuming he is saying they're not doing their part. I see no reason why Americans need to die or America should be supporting all this without some type of skin in the game i.e. NATO, I think that may be a point as well.

The thought process before was protection of the dollar, but as witnessed over the last 15 years or so... there is no out on the dollar, there is only in... until reset.

I seriously doubt we take over Greenland in any manner. I think the end game will be exclusive mining rights agreement and some type of defense agreement. It will specifically call out that China and Russia are NOT allowed in Greenland including for mining rights.

 

[volbound1700]

The issue with Greenland independence is that they only have like 50k people in their entire country.

On paper, the best arrangement for Greenland would be a union with Iceland or, as a second option, to join Canada since they are physical closer to these nations. Iceland likely has a more common culture.

 

[just bob]

It's funny to watch people who rail against giving military aid to Ukraine, stumble all over themselves to support the idea of US military adventurism in Panama.

Ukraine doesn't deserve anything from us.

 

[Go aeiou]

The Canada thing was just to piss off Trudeau and the libs/MSM. However I think the Canal and Greenland are major National Security issues. The PC should have never been turned over to Panama. We built it and many Americans lost their lives doing it. If China were to rangle control of it. We would be in trouble.

I think the ultimate goal with Greenland is to add probably an Air Force base there.

Have we asked to put another base there?

 

[Grand Vol]

I'm all about annexing Canada and making Greenland an overseas territory...

I'm all about keeping Chinese influence out of the Panama Canal...

But why stop there? I think Cuba would make a dandy territory too. I think the people might go for it.

We need more stars on the flag.

 

[Orangeburst]

I'm all about annexing Canada and making Greenland an overseas territory...

I'm all about keeping Chinese influence out of the Panama Canal...

But why stop there? I think Cuba would make a dandy territory too. I think the people might go for it.

We need more stars on the flag.

I like the symmetry of it, so someone gotta go..

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I'm all about annexing Canada and making Greenland an overseas territory...

I'm all about keeping Chinese influence out of the Panama Canal...

But why stop there? I think Cuba would make a dandy territory too. I think the people might go for it.

We need more stars on the flag.

Expanding manifest destiny?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Sounds like a bunch of Cowboy fans are still butt hurt about the Annexation Of Puerto Rico.

Bravo. I got this and laughed, even if nobody else did. Well done.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

When it comes to us, literally nobody is doing their part. They've relied on us to prop up everything (and I mean nearly everyone in the world) and maintain world stability and peace while calling us every name under the sun (including imperialists, selfish, whatever). Because of that, our politicians largely back out of flexing our strength in ways that are meaningful and good for Americans (and what is good for Americans is frequently good for the world), and instead just crap resources into wasteful places like Ukraine. The thing that kills me about people that think "hurr durr Trump threatening war" is that they forget we historically had a policy of using our economic and industrial strength while walking around with our giant stick in hand- not using it, but making sure people knew it was there.

China is doing that today and eating our lunch around the world, and unfortunately eating everyone else's too. Because of dingbats whose brains can apparently only process information unilaterally, if we have someone that says "damn, we need to preserve our trade routes and economic interests abroad, we don't want to use our stick, but we will to put you in line if you don't listen" they start ranting and raving like lunatics. The neat thing about this country is that once that stick is shown, almost everyone falls in line, because they know American influence in their country gives them more freedom to be themselves and to prosper, whereas China just uses and abuses.

Good post. This is true. Sadly we had a feckless limp noodle in control for the last 4 years so I am sure China has had a field day. Russia was too busy to get much done fortunately...but them getting closer to China and NK than ever before will likely cause us problems indefinitely. The Biden admin is responsible for all of that.
We need a couple non Democrat administrations in a row to get this country back on solid footing. The amount of posts from people in Europe and Asia that I read before the election who were begging and praying for a Trump win was overwhelming. 100 to 1 easily for Trump. The whole world suffers when America has weak and failed leadership. Their economies, their people, their security from danger, they suffer in tangible ways that people see and feel. The outpouring of support for Trump from abroad was insane. I read hundreds and hundreds of comments from people who were struggling financially for necessities like food, gas, heating oil, and work. Not in 3rd world countries...I am talking about in Germany, France, Australia, S.Korea, Japan...countries where you would never expect these things. The European countries especially are struggling right now because of Globalist Lefty leadership and energy prices. We need strong leadership here, the rising tide will raise all boats.

We need to get airbases in Greenland before China gets a port or airbase there. We need to do something about the Panama Canal. Trump ready handled Canada for the moment...which is hilarious. Time to put an end to the war in Ukraine and get started on this other stuff. Trump is the ONLY president in my 47 years of life that started no new wars, and attacked no new countries during his term. The only one. Thats a big part of why he was elected again. We dont have to go to war to cause change. He understands that...and unlike all the other presidents he is NOT bought and paid for by the military industrial complex. Thank God he won this election. We were absolutely screwed if not.

 

[LSU-SIU]

The issue with Greenland independence is that they only have like 50k people in their entire country.

On paper, the best arrangement for Greenland would be a union with Iceland or, as a second option, to join Canada since they are physical closer to these nations. Iceland likely has a more common culture.

Iceland is actually pretty small as well. The economy was so small when I was there, they would count the amount of CDs I had in the car when I went off base to make sure I wasn't flooding the local economy. They literally would count anything of value every time.

 

[LSU-SIU]

I seriously doubt we take over Greenland in any manner. I think the end game will be exclusive mining rights agreement and some type of defense agreement. It will specifically call out that China and Russia are NOT allowed in Greenland including for mining rights.

Absolutely. I don't mean to imply I think anything is going to be done, but Trump is potentially bring up important parts (of course he hasn't fully explained and we are guessing in part) that many have not considered. I will say this though... someone invades Greenland, don't come to me to be involved or support payment for the defense. If its a part of the U.S. in some manner, I wouldn't be necessarily against it. Heck, get rid of some of the States. I think an important question is why is the U.S. involved in everyone's affairs, and maybe these people should consider that we might not be their friend.... and why should I care about what happens to them?

I think the discussion makes sense to a degree, meaning why is the U.S. involved everywhere.... are we and the world better off because of it?

I don't feel any personal obligation to die to defend them so..... (they're on their own as far as I am concerned) Why do we care about Iceland or Greenland? Logically speaking, shouldn't they find a reason for us to care? If not, good luck and bye.

 

[volbound1700]

Absolutely. I don't mean to imply I think anything is going to be done, but Trump is potentially bring up important parts (of course he hasn't fully explained and we are guessing in part) that many have not considered. I will say this though... someone invades Greenland, don't come to me to be involved or support payment for the defense. If its a part of the U.S. in some manner, I wouldn't be necessarily against it. Heck, get rid of some of the States. I think an important question is why is the U.S. involved in everyone's affairs, and maybe these people should consider that we might not be their friend.... and why should I care about what happens to them?

I think the discussion makes sense to a degree, meaning why is the U.S. involved everywhere.... are we and the world better off because of it?

I don't feel any personal obligation to die to defend them so..... (they're on their own as far as I am concerned) Why do we care about Iceland or Greenland? Logically speaking, shouldn't they find a reason for us to care? If not, good luck and bye.

To answer your question, look around you. It is economy stupid. We make money off the rest of the world. If we hid in a whole, half your wealth is gone in an instance.

 

[joevol33]

Gulf of America!