US has more people in prison then China and Russia....combined

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(NaturalNews) Criminal justice experts from the U.S. Justice Department report that the United States has the largest prison population and highest incarceration rate in the world due to factors such as tough sentencing laws, record drug offender arrests and high crime rates. A report released by the justice department on Nov. 30 reported 1 in every 32 American adults -- or a record 7 million people -- were incarcerated, on probation or on parole at the end of 2005, with 2.2 million of them in prison or jail. The International Center for Prison Studies at King's College, London reported that this number was the highest of any country, with China ranking second with 1.5 million prisoners, and Russia sitting in third with 870,000. The United States also has the highest incarceration rate at 737 per 100,000 people, compared to nearest country Russia's 611 per 100,000 and St. Kitts and Nevis' 547.
Groups calling for U.S. sentencing law reform are pointing to these numbers and others that show inmate populations are rising faster than prisoners are released.
"The United States has 5 percent of the world's population and 25 percent of the world's incarcerated population. We rank first in the world in locking up our fellow citizens," said Ethan Nadelmann of the Drug Policy Alliance, which supports alternatives in the war on drugs. "We now imprison more people for drug law violations than all of Western Europe, with a much larger population, incarcerates for all offenses."
U.S. prison population dwarfs that of other nations - The New York Times

Learn more: United States imprisons more people than China, Russia or any other nation, experts say

Tired of spending money on prisons and guards, etc.
I think this country needs to change a lot of its policies particularly toward drugs.
 
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I wish we would change our drug laws, but if nothing else there's no need to send the guy buying off a street corner to jail, just sentence the distributers.
 
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Im trying to figure out why we are guarding the opium plants & poppy fields in Afghanistan when there's a "war on drugs".
 
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But we are winning the war on drugs...

The problem is those people who think there is a war on drugs. There isn't. Can't be. Drugs are an inanimate object. Our government has declared war on its own citizens: the people who want to peacefully put in their own bodies what they choose of their own free will, and the people who want to enter into freely chosen commerce and provide those substances.

Jack Daniels doesn't knock off Jim Beam distributors. Bud doesn't burn down stores that sell Corona. Things like that did happen during prohibition, just like with drug prohibition.


I wonder how much of the other crimes listed in that chart are a result of drugs being illegal? I have read studies that show that a large portion of violent crimes are not what we call drug-related, but are still a result of drugs. For example, muggings are often the result of some idiot who can't, or thinks he can't, legally make enough money to buy his drugs, so he resorts to robbery. If drugs were legal, they would cost a lot less, and that would lower crimes like this as well.
 
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Does anyone really want to switch places with Russia and China in terms of human rights? Do you really think they report accurately? C'mon fellas.
 
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Does anyone really want to switch places with Russia and China in terms of human rights? Do you really think they report accurately? C'mon fellas.

At least Russia and China do not delude themselves into thinking they are some bastion of liberty. The hypocrisy of the institution that is the American Government is only matched by the hypocrisy of religious institutions.
 
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At least Russia and China do not delude themselves into thinking they are some bastion of liberty. The hypocrisy of the institution that is the American Government is only matched by the hypocrisy of religious institutions.

You're right. They were too busy invading countries to force communism upon them so that they could extract resources and crush human rights.

It's cute that you overlook that so you can zing the government for alleged "hyprocrisy." and great jab there at religion. It certainly has a place in this conversation. Continue to enjoy your liberties while bashing the country that provides it. I promise it wouldn't happen in China or Russia.
 
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You're right. They were too busy invading countries to force communism upon them so that they could extract resources and crush human rights.

It's cute that you overlook that so you can zing the government for alleged "hyprocrisy." and great jab there at religion. It certainly has a place in this conversation. Continue to enjoy your liberties while bashing the country that provides it. I promise it wouldn't happen in China or Russia.

America does not provide liberty. Liberty is an unalienable right; the best America could argue for is that it protects the expression of liberty. Unfortunately, while it might secure this right more than some other countries cannot exactly stand on principle since it does plenty to infringe upon this right, while somehow declaring itself to be some "Beacon on a hill" or "Bastion of liberty".
 
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America does not provide liberty. Liberty is an unalienable right; the best America could argue for is that it protects the expression of liberty. Unfortunately, while it might secure this right more than some other countries cannot exactly stand on principle since it does plenty to infringe upon this right, while somehow declaring itself to be some "Beacon on a hill" or "Bastion of liberty".

this. we can talk a huge game, but I don't see anywhere where freedom has been increased. This is by both sides.
 
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I wish we would change our drug laws, but if nothing else there's no need to send the guy buying off a street corner to jail, just sentence the distributers.

Wrong, IMO. Users aren't the ones going to prison (unless they commit some other crime), so they don't even factor into this conversation. Non-violent distributors are the ones that are really getting hosed in this equation.

Going after distributors does nothing to win the war on drugs (as history has proven). If they were serious about winning the war, they would target users, but then they'd have to send Ted and Bobby Kennedy's kids to prison, and nobody (in charge) wants that.
 
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You're right. They were too busy invading countries to force communism upon them so that they could extract resources and crush human rights.

It's cute that you overlook that so you can zing the government for alleged "hyprocrisy." and great jab there at religion. It certainly has a place in this conversation. Continue to enjoy your liberties while bashing the country that provides it. I promise it wouldn't happen in China or Russia.

I wish we had decided we were "too busy" as we have been invading countries to force democracy on them.
 

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