USC RB Marc Tyler getting paid!

#26
#26
thehardknoxlife said:
Not to agree with either one of you and without looking at the records I'd say the two are pretty even in every category. USC has an edge in awards. Subtract the vacated wins of 2004 and I'd say the last decade is really close as well.
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How many losing seasons has USC had in the past decade?

How many conference championships has each school won in the past decade?
 
#27
#27
SGMVols said:
How many losing seasons has USC had in the past decade?

How many conference championships has each school won in the past decade?
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Go back to the 90s. The roles are nearly reversed identically...except we got to keep our NC.
 
#28
#28
Kurtastrophe said:
Go back to the 90s. The roles are nearly reversed identically...except we got to keep our NC.
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I go with the "what have you done for me lately" strategy. Tennessee has done nothing of significance over the past 10 years compared to what USC has accomplished during the same time.
 
#29
#29
TennesseeFan07 said:
I go with the "what have you done for me lately" strategy. Tennessee has done nothing of significance over the past 10 years compared to what USC has accomplished during the same time.
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I understand that. The point is that Tennessee is a top 15 program. Success is cyclical.
 
#31
#31
exotic_vols said:
Only Tennessee homers with orange-tinted glasses would believe Southern Cal. job was/is not a better job than Tennessee. If you look up the history, there is really no argument there. Please look up the wins in history, bowl wins, awards, wins in the past decades etc. before you embarrass yourself with a statement like that. A BCS championship 13 years ago doesn't mean Tennessee job is better. Additionally, please look at those recruiting pipilines S.C. set up in Southern California and in the west and also compare their national recruiting influence with ours.

You want to talk about the current situation? Sure. Last year, S.C played only 40~50 eligible players with only 60+ scholarship players on the roster (due to free upperclassmen transfer rules), minus 10+ redshirts, and still managed 8 wins, and that's as bad as it gets. I'd like to bet, even with a 30-scholarship-reduction, S.C. will win more games than Tennessee in the next 3 years.
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All Time Wins:
UT - 773
USC - 761

Bowl Wins:
USC - 31
UT - 25

Consensus All Americans:
USC - 78
UT - 72

You could argue that USC is the better job, but it's closer than you want to admit. UT is currently in a down cycle, but one can easily argue that UT will be the better job for the next decade when the sanctions at USC are factored in.
 
#32
#32
First&Tenn said:
All Time Wins:
UT - 773
USC - 761

Bowl Wins:
USC - 31
UT - 25

Consensus All Americans:
USC - 78
UT - 72

You could argue that USC is the better job, but it's closer than you want to admit. UT is currently in a down cycle, but one can easily argue that UT will be the better job for the next decade when the sanctions at USC are factored in.
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I think both programs are historically at around the same level, but your leaving something out about the wins number. UT is at a .690 winning percentage while USC is at .702 winning percentage....just thought I would throw that out there.
 
#33
#33
BearCat204 said:
I think both programs are historically at around the same level, but your leaving something out about the wins number. UT is at a .690 winning percentage while USC is at .702 winning percentage....just thought I would throw that out there.
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That's true, and USC is obviously the better program over the last decade. I was just saying that one doesn't have to wear orange colored glasses to see UT as the job that gives them a better chance to succeed over the next 5-10 years. It's debatable. USC has better talent now, but their conference rivals are getting better, the fan expectations are much higher, and the sanctions will diminish the ability to recruit. UT has less talent and a tougher conference, but the SEC East is open enough to give any coaching staff a chance to seize the lead role going forward.
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#35
#35
First&Tenn said:
All Time Wins:
UT - 773
USC - 761

Bowl Wins:
USC - 31
UT - 25

Consensus All Americans:
USC - 78
UT - 72

You could argue that USC is the better job, but it's closer than you want to admit. UT is currently in a down cycle, but one can easily argue that UT will be the better job for the next decade when the sanctions at USC are factored in.
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USC - 11 national championships
Tenn - 6
 
#37
#37
Kiffin finds USC a better job for the same reason most people from TN and the south would find UT a better job... He fits in better there. Different culture, etc. I can assure you the number of championships each time won 4 decades ago did not factor into his decision.
 
#38
#38
VolsDeep said:
Kiffin finds USC a better job for the same reason most people from TN and the south would find UT a better job... He fits in better there. Different culture, etc. I can assure you the number of championships each time won 4 decades ago did not factor into his decision.
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Thank you
 
#40
#40
VolsDeep said:
Kiffin finds USC a better job for the same reason most people from TN and the south would find UT a better job... He fits in better there. Different culture, etc. I can assure you the number of championships each time won 4 decades ago did not factor into his decision.
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Thats what I was saying, money and the climate/culture.
 
#41
#41
TrueOrange said:
SMU was like USC in the 70s and 80s though. Check their history in the old (corrupt) southwest conference
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SMU was a powerhouse back in the 70s and 80.

But they are also the reason that the death penalty will probably never be handed out again. The loss of revenue to the other schools in the conference was the real killer. You have to look at how things are set up these days, almost every game for every major conference is on TV. If you start taking OSU, or USC off the TV schedule
1) the networks are going to be Pizzled, so say the least
2) the other schools will lose TV time, face time for recruits, and TV revenue from that game
d) Nike is going to be ticked cause their uni's arent on TV enough.

I think there needs to be something more done that the hand slaps that are currently going on, but the death penalty and TV bans will probably never happen again.

Post season Bans, loss of scholarships UP TO AN ENTIRE CLASS OF SCHOLARSHIPS are what I would recommend. Not that anyone cares what I say.

ALSO: for reference, Mich State was on probation in the late 70s for some VERY minor things. Woody Hayes was so ticked that Charlie Baggett and Company beat them in 74, that he sent out private investigators to find dirt on MSU (true story). The were on probation for 4 years, no post season, no TV. It was a program killer. 10 years from a national championship and they were sitting at the bottom of the Big Ten. It has taken a long time, and a lot of coaching searches to get back to consistent respectability.
 
#44
#44
Looks like Tyler underestimated the disciplinary force that is LK.
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#45
#45
VolsDeep said:
Kiffin finds USC a better job for the same reason most people from TN and the south would find UT a better job... He fits in better there. Different culture, etc. I can assure you the number of championships each time won 4 decades ago did not factor into his decision.
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anyone thinking it's as easy to win NCs at tenn than usc doesn't have their head on straight. there is a reason why USC has had more nfl players drafted than any school in history. teh so cal recruiting base makes teh job far more attractive.
 
#47
#47
golfballs03 said:
Colin Cowherd deflects
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Colin Cowherd is a hack who got his job mostly from being a more than frequent caller to the Papa Joe show in the 90s. His wife is a michigan grad, and that is probably all you need to know about his ability to think clearly.


:crazy:
 
#48
#48
Urban Liar just said on CFL that this isnt a big deal and the media should quit showing the video. God I hate this guy more and more everytime I hear him speak. A kid telling a camera from TMZ that USC pays players??? Yea Urb not a big deal at all.
 
#50
#50
salutethehill said:
They had a good run from 1980-1984. Outside of that, they're Vandy. In the 70s, they only had 3 winning seasons, none of which reached 8 wins. They were never a "powerhouse".
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I have got to quit posting from work. Running my dumb mouth without checking my facts. That is the second or third time I have said something stupid here, my apologies. But also, while checking my fact here on break, I found this. . . and had to laugh a little. . .

1996 5 6
1995, Texas Tech admitted to participation of 14 ineligible players, promised to forfeit games, but has never changed the official record.
1995 1 10
1994, Texas Tech admitted to participation of 16 ineligible players, promised to forfeit games, but has never changed the official record.
1994 1 9 1
1993, Texas Tech admitted to participation of 21 ineligible players, promised to forfeit games, but has never changed the official record.
1993 2 7 2
1992, Texas Tech admitted to participation of 13 ineligible players, promised to forfeit games, but has never changed the official record.
1992 5 6
1991, Texas Tech admitted to participation of 5 ineligible players, promised to forfeit games, but has never changed the official record.
1991 1 10
Year Won Lost Tied Notes
1990, Texas Tech admitted to participation of 1 ineligible player, promised to forfeit games, but has never changed the official record.
1990 1 10
1989 2 9
No team in 1987-1988 due to NCAA "death penalty"
1986 6 5
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:dance2::dance2: go Texas Tech!!!

link: All-Time Records for Southern Methodist
 
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