UT a 6 win team with Worley

#26
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I say start Worley and let Fergy play some in each of the first few games, then after the bye week, give him the full reins of the offense.

However; if it is obvious that Fergy clearly the better q.b., then give him the offense from day 1.

We now have the weapons on offense, so we need to get our q.b. ready for 2015 and beyond...
 
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jayski said:
Worley seems like a wonderful young man but as a fan I would much rather see one of the young guy get in there and take their lumps. I think come spring it will be difficult to keep Dobbs off the field. Dobbs was light years ahead of Worley if you compare Freshman Dobbs to Freshman Worley. JMO
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This is simply not true. Josh Dobbs: 72-121, 695 yds,2td 6int sacked 7 times, qb rating 103.3.
Justin Worley (freshmen yr): 48-87 604yds 1td 3int sacked 3 times qb rating 110.4

If Ferguson can't take the job then Worley keeps it. Dobbs was the fourth string qb last season, and will probably be again this year unless someone transfers.
 
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Volfan2012 said:
Games we must win Utah State, Arkansas State, Chattanooga, Kentucky, Vandy. Games we could possibly win Florida, Missouri. Games we probably want win Georgia, SC, Ole Miss. Big Underdogs Alabama, Oklahoma. We certainly have a great shot at six or seven wins Florida game will be huge early. We could win eight or more Georgia, Ole Miss, and SC need huge efforts but do have a chance in those games.
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We gave UGA all they wanted this season. Also, Aaron Murray is gone, so I doudt the new q.b. will play 1/2 as good as he does.

I see UGA as a toss up game. I also see USC as a toss up game.
 
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I see Ferg making a big push, but who's going to be protecting whoever we have at QB? Who are the projected starters on the O line?
 
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BanditVol said:
I have gone through different opinions on Worley. Early on, I thought he caught too much flak, but was also unhappy with his performance.

Then when he was injured, I kind of thought maybe it was best to move on.

However, post season, looking back at things from a distance, let's face it, the Vols played much better in Worley's last two games...Uga and USCe. We had a few moments here and there later in the season, but those two games were the peak, and who was the QB?

So I'll take my chances with Worley if he is the starter. You never know, with another year to improve and learn Butch's offense, he might just pleasantly surprise us.
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Agree completely.
 
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Worley is my bet for the starter this year. I would prefer Ferg passes him up and wins the job before the season but who can really say much about what the kid has at this point? Whoever wins the job I think this will be a 6-6 season. I just hope whoever wins the starting spot stays healthy and we don't end up watching a repeat of the QB situation last year.
 
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jayski said:
Worley seems like a wonderful young man but as a fan I would much rather see one of the young guy get in there and take their lumps. I think come spring it will be difficult to keep Dobbs off the field. Dobbs was light years ahead of Worley if you compare Freshman Dobbs to Freshman Worley. JMO
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Wow that blew up in your face.
 
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jarnol32 said:
This is simply not true. Josh Dobbs: 72-121, 695 yds,2td 6int sacked 7 times, qb rating 103.3.
Justin Worley (freshmen yr): 48-87 604yds 1td 3int sacked 3 times qb rating 110.4

If Ferguson can't take the job then Worley keeps it. Dobbs was the fourth string qb last season, and will probably be again this year unless someone transfers.
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Put into consideration what was around Worley as well and what was around Dobbs.
 
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Why all the hate for Dobbs? I just can't understand it. And NO, we don't get 6 wins with Worley. He played horrible too.
 
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I believe Worley will get the job and fall somewhere between Ainge's senior year and Cromp Daddy's senior campaign statistically...( he's played enough to know what he needs to do to be successful) And if he can put up those journey man type numbers this team will definitely be bowling come next season ..(preferably in a warm weather state pleeez...) I can dream can't I? :)
 
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lexkyvol said:
Why all the hate for Dobbs? I just can't understand it. And NO, we don't get 6 wins with Worley. He played horrible too.
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With Worley healthy again Dobbs will be able to concentrate on practicing and learning. I think He'll be better for it in 2015.
 
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lexkyvol said:
Why all the hate for Dobbs? I just can't understand it. And NO, we don't get 6 wins with Worley. He played horrible too.
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It's because he was sent in to guide a team that that had been infused with the "We can't win ethic by the Dooley boys." The wunderkind that post on this site, are mesmerized with their own football minds, deficient though they might be, and believe they have all the answers. They still fantasize that Ferguson is the answer to all prayers. And monkey's may fly out from between the cheeks of my butt at any moment. The wunderkind, just a short time back, were on this site calling for the heads of Butch Jones' staff because they KNEW they weren't up to par. Well, how many of the signees from yesterday did our deadweight, board posting, football stunted, out-of-the-loop, Nation wonderminds recruit?
 
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BanditVol said:
I have gone through different opinions on Worley. Early on, I thought he caught too much flak, but was also unhappy with his performance.

Then when he was injured, I kind of thought maybe it was best to move on.

However, post season, looking back at things from a distance, let's face it, the Vols played much better in Worley's last two games...Uga and USCe. We had a few moments here and there later in the season, but those two games were the peak, and who was the QB?

So I'll take my chances with Worley if he is the starter. You never know, with another year to improve and learn Butch's offense, he might just pleasantly surprise us.
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If WR play improves as it should then Worley will be just fine. In fact, I think all 4 have the talent to be good SEC QB's with guys playing well around them.

You make a good point. Worley also suffered through the early season when the WR's who were playing had no idea what they were doing. There seemed to be a conscious choice (perhaps with the future in mind) to play talent over what little experience they had. That idea is bolstered by the departure of Dallas who had shown a few flashes of promise playing behind the big 3 in '12.

Worley has a good arm but not great. He has to excel as a manager and decision maker which actually works well with Jones' O philosophy. But to make good decisions, you have to have guys around you playing consistently well. That was not the case early in the season. It got better for UGA and USCe... as did the results and Worley's stat line.
 
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A good QB needs good receivers, and we will have some good ones this year. Should elevate all QB play. It will be interesting.
 
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I think our O-line will be the biggest determining factor about of QB. If it's Worley, the line better be able to give him time, else he's gonna fold like origami. Don't know about Dobby or Ferguson back there when they're running for their lives.
 
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I'm hoping we have a much better option than Worley.

I think we've seen Worley's ceiling and he was our best option last season BUT let's be honest, he isn't a good SEC QB not even close. I'd love for him to prove me wrong but I just don't see it.
 
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ballou1024 said:
We are a six win team regardless of who wins the starting job!
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False! The Dobb Goblin's coming.

I honestly think Worley is a far better QB than most here give him credit for. I also honest think the Dobb Goblin now understands he's not expected to rush things or pressured to make big plays just to impress, will emerge as our #1 QB. Add the coming out of those wonderful WR targets we now have and I just have to say it. Dobb Goblin's gonna gitcha!
 
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The last time I saw a Tennessee team compete with any sense of cohesion & tenacity was with Worley behind center.
 
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I must admit I'm surprised. Their is still some love for Dobbs on this board. He got thrown into a bad situation last year. From what many have said Ferg is going to be the guy for the future, but who knows? I still say Worley is the guy this year, assuming he stays healthy. The WR core is going to be better but the OL is going to be worse. Worley is the best game manager and has more toughness than any QB on the roster. He may be a stop gap, but he's our stop gap. If he stays healthy Tennessee will make a bowl. If CBJ and his staff can pull another recruiting class like this, the sky is the limit. After that let the the best man win at QB in 2015. :)
 
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JCHateSteve said:
I must admit I'm surprised. Their is still some love for Dobbs on this board. He got thrown into a bad situation last year. From what many have said Ferg is going to be the guy for the future, but who knows? I still say Worley is the guy this year, assuming he stays healthy. The WR core is going to be better but the OL is going to be worse. Worley is the best game manager and has more toughness than any QB on the roster. He may be a stop gap, but he's our stop gap. If he stays healthy Tennessee will make a bowl. If CBJ and his staff can pull another recruiting class like this, the sky is the limit. After that let the the best man win at QB in 2015. :)
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I actually like Worley. I like him a lot. Here's the thing. As a running QB from what I've seen last season, he:

1. Ignores wide open spaces defenses practically gift wrap for him.
2. I just can't get that scared poopless picture out of my mind where he's running. That close up facial was so telling.
3. As you mention, the OL isn't going to be as seasoned at protecting the passer as the 2013 unit.
We're going to actually need a QB that can buy time and threaten if not hurt opponents as a runner. It's absolutely necessary until that OL develops.

Now, I don't know much of anything about Rifleman Riley. I have seen the Dobb Goblin in action enough to believe he's the running QB of choice. If he can stop throwing interceptions. I do think his mis-throws was due to being green, trying to make big plays when safe plays were called for, and there being no harmony between QB and WRs in terms of route running and timing. These are going to be a heavily reduced issues in 2014. So I honestly believe the Dobb Goblin is coming to gitcha. He's coming.
DobbGoblin1 on Vimeo
 
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ncvol004 said:
Worley didn't play a good game vs USCe . one third down play was all that I saw from him last year and that was underthrown.... if not for M north. There is no way that butch goes into year 3 with no stable QB . it's Riley's turn or Dobbs. also they both can run a read Option unlike Worley...
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that is true as far as the read option goes,i thought Worley was at a disadvantage running it ,shouldn't CBJ have altered his plays ?allowing for a pocket passer ? and not keep running the read option with him at QB ?
 
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