UT Defense-Mythbusters Edition

[gobravesvols16]

Our D being "too slow" is just a myth and I have the numbers to prove it. Below is the 40 times of our starters and Stanfords starters. We know that Stanford shut down the Oregon juggernaut 2 years in a row while they went thru our D like a hot knife thru butter.

UT

DE Smith 4.7
DT McCullers 5.18
DT Hood
DE Miller 4.6
LB Johnson 4.7
LB Sapp 4.6
LB Brewer 4.6
CB Sutton 4.45
CB Coleman 4.4
S McNeil 4.5
S Moore 4.5

Stanford

DE Mauro 4.7
DT Parry 5.2
DE Anderson 4.8
LB Murphy 4.8
LB Skov 4.6
LB Tarpley 4.7
LB Vaughters 4.6
CB Carter 4.5
CB Lyons 4.5
S Reynolds 4.5
S Richards 4.5

According to the facts above we are just as fast or faster at some positions than Stanford so what gives? I think it comes down to player development. The previous staff did a poor job developing players on that side of the ball. A player coming out of HS is going to be raw and needs to be taught the fundamentals. This is what HAS to happen and it is a slow process.

 

[VFL1800FPD]

Where did you get the times from?

 

[FTCvol]

Our D being "too slow" is just a myth and I have the numbers to prove it. Below is the 40 times of our starters and Stanfords starters. We know that Stanford shut down the Oregon juggernaut 2 years in a row while they went thru our D like a hot knife thru butter.

UT

DE Smith 4.7
DT McCullers 5.18
DT Hood
DE Miller 4.6
LB Johnson 4.7
LB Sapp 4.6
LB Brewer 4.6
CB Sutton 4.45
CB Coleman 4.4
S McNeil 4.5
S Moore 4.5

Stanford

DE Mauro 4.7
DT Parry 5.2
DE Anderson 4.8
LB Murphy 4.8
LB Skov 4.6
LB Tarpley 4.7
LB Vaughters 4.6
CB Carter 4.5
CB Lyons 4.5
S Reynolds 4.5
S Richards 4.5

According to the facts above we are just as fast or faster at some positions than Stanford so what gives? I think it comes down to player development. The previous staff did a poor job developing players on that side of the ball. A player coming out of HS is going to be raw and needs to be taught the fundamentals. This is what HAS to happen and it is a slow process.

These laser times or nah?

Corey Miller at 4.6 And BMo at 4.5 LOLOL

Honestly most of these are comically inaccurate.

 

[Spartacavolus]

then you should watch track instead of football

 

[rockytop114]

Its speed but i have seen slower teams beat faster teams by playing a conservative type of D.

now your right it is up to the coach to teach and at times this year they have done good but maybe when they get tired they forget there assignment our they are just not good learners. lets see can you put each plyers gpa by there 40 time and maybe we can get to the bottom of this.

 

[rjd970]

Having to learn a different defense from a different DC almost every year they have been here may have something to do with it. And the fact is, we are really really young.

Jeez, I know its been a rough go of it, but give it just a little more time. The UGA and USCjr games give me a glimmer of hope for the future.

 

[gobravesvols16]

Where did you get the times from?

Rivals and 247

 

[papatomany]

Its speed but i have seen slower teams beat faster teams by playing a conservative type of D.

now your right it is up to the coach to teach and at times this year they have done good but maybe when they get tired they forget there assignment our they are just not good learners. lets see can you put each plyers gpa by there 40 time and maybe we can get to the bottom of this.

There was nothing remotely conservative about how Stanford played Oregon.

 

[rockytop114]

There was nothing remotely conservative about how Stanford played Oregon.

you missed the point but i will say a 3-4 is supposed to be a faster d and thats what stanford runs. really you cant compare us with them they are a well oiled machine and we are just getting started

 

[LotteryPick]

The NFL combine will be a fun time on this forum.

 

[ESPNHATESUS]

The line is ok speed wise it's the safety and lb positions that we are slow on hurting us. 4.5 and 4.6 speed against 4.4 and less around the end them yes that's slow.

 

[keckjm]

There was nothing remotely conservative about how Stanford played Oregon.

Stanford won because their players are smart and understand leverage, angles, and technique. They are very well coached, and they play at a very high intensity and with a lot of confidence. Most of our players aren't very football smart or they would have picked up by now that when they take bad angles over and over again teams get big gains. Our football players don't understand football techniques, and they don't understand how to contain the edge. They also haven't been taught jack s*** since Wilcox and crew left so CBJ and staff have their work cut out for them.

 

[gobravesvols16]

The point I was trying to make is that speed, or lack thereof, may not be the guilty culprit we thought it was.

 

[VolFootballlover]

yet again another B.S. made Up thread!

 

[SaintLouisVol]

The point I was trying to make is that speed, or lack thereof, may not be the guilty culprit we thought it was.

I never thought it was.

 

[GBOVOLS]

Dude there is a huge difference between your 40 time and the speed you play at. Coleman is a great example of that. He gets beat on go routes all the time

 

[1967vol]

Stanford won because their players are smart and understand leverage, angles, and technique. They are very well coached, and they play at a very high intensity and with a lot of confidence. Most of our players aren't very football smart or they would have picked up by now that when they take bad angles over and over again teams get big gains. Our football players don't understand football techniques, and they don't understand how to contain the edge. They also haven't been taught jack s*** since Wilcox and crew left so CBJ and staff have their work cut out for them.

This ^^, 100%...knowing WHEN to go WHERE, it isn't speed primarily.

 

[BigOrangeCrush32]

If your thinking constantly while the play is going, then your playing slow...once they understand the defense better, then they can play fast and hard without having to think where they are supposed to be or do...just be automatic...

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Football players aren't robots programmed to go to the exact point where a tackle has the greatest probability of occurrence with only nanoseconds of hesitation/play read. These players are not football smart i.e. as you alluded, they haven't been coached up. They aren't making the right reads, aren't confident in their decision making and thus all the speed in the world will not help them. You can have a car that goes 0-60 in 3.2 seconds that will not catch up to a car that goes 0-60 in 4.5 seconds once that slower car is gone.

Some players learn faster than others, some are so much more athletically gifted that they can still make plays despite fundamental mistakes. I think we are closer to "neither."

 

[UTjonez]

The line is ok speed wise it's the safety and lb positions that we are slow on hurting us. 4.5 and 4.6 speed against 4.4 and less around the end them yes that's slow.

I know I wasn't the only one to see Auburns ball boy on the sidelines outrun our entire special teams on a kick return for a TD.

 

[VOLywood]

Defensive speed is much more than a 40 time. It has more to do with reaction time, recognizing offensive sets, making a decision, and committing to a pursuit angle. Then quickness comes into play when you've done all those things right.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I know I wasn't the only one to see Auburns ball boy on the sidelines outrun our entire special teams on a kick return for a TD.

The ball boy wasn't wearing all the football gear and had not been actually playing the game. I can guarantee that a ball boy would not outrun one of our special teams guys. Take off the uniform and line them up, the UT player outruns him 10/10.

 

[knoxvols11]

Our punter needs to be on that list!

 

[UTjonez]

The ball boy wasn't wearing all the football gear and had not been actually playing the game. I can guarantee that a ball boy would not outrun one of our special teams guys. Take off the uniform and line them up, the UT player outruns him 10/10.

I don't care what the circumstances are a ball boy should never outrun a D1 LB or S. If he is "that fast" he wouldn't be a ball boy.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I don't care what the circumstances are a ball boy should never outrun a D1 LB or S. If he is "that fast" he wouldn't be a ball boy.

Right lol: