UT under potential NCAA investigation for NIL

[DukeDaisySam]

Which has already been shown they didn’t.

Seriously?

 

[TooLegit2Quit]

What's the aim here if you are the NCAA? It seems to me like they are going out of their way to usher in the death of college athletics. They have to know damn well they aren't going to be able enforce anything as it relates to NIL/collectives. If what's mentioned in the NYT article is it then the University shouldn't hesitate to go to war here and Plowman's statement is a great start. This antiquated body with their arbitrarily enforced "rules" can pound sand. Go do your jobs and help the amateur athletes in the sports you pretend to care about.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The letter was date YESTERDAY. Someone from UT leaked for someone to request the letter or UT put out intentionally. Either way, UT wanted the letter out. Freedom requests are usually stonewalled. Look how long UT kept information private with previous investigation.

This is UT/Donde on Donald K kind of offense.

This is exactly what I think is happening. UT is getting out the message they want and the letter on purpose.

How long have the investigation or allegations been going on? I dunno.

I'm definitely in the camp that this release and any info Trammel or Forde or anyone got this quickly was leaked by UT and to create the narrative UT wanted.

 

[DaddyChad]

Spyre was too Wild West with Nico. Ultimately the violations they’re accusing us of making were not explicitly forbidden at the time, but some individuals in Spyre were too reckless in sharing information with friends during Nico’s recruitment. It’s too early to bet on outcomes, but I think it will end with warnings or apologies, not penalties. We shall see. I hope the specific clowns are held accountable for what they did.

How can it be a “violation” if it’s not specifically forbidden? They’re further highlighting their incompetence of not having clear rules in place for governing NIL.

 

[butchna]

I get the vitriol at Forde, but he didn't make this up. The fact that we have the letter from Donde Plowman out means there is an investigation or allegation against UT. Forde is an ass, but he's not just inventing this...... or Donde is playing along with him, which I highly doubt.

As for paper trails, folks don't fly around in corporate or school airplanes without paper trails because the expenses are handled by bean counters and private airplane rides ain't cheap. If it's about an airplane trip, somebody had to sign off on it somewhere.

Yeah a Vols fan allowed Spyre to use it. What’s the difference between that and donating millions to the collective? Miami dude IS their collective and hasn’t received a sniff.

 

[Visiting Dawg]

Carson Beck is working on that. Get back to me later.

Carson is being paid well but not by the collective. He's going to be doing legit endorsement deals. I don't know if he'll be a Doctor Pepper guy or not but he, like Stetson Bennett and Brock Bowers. will make a lot of money based on their true NIL.

 

[BowlBrother85]

That's the thing. ESPN KNEW this was happening to request and get a specific letter that quickly. UT would have to pass this request past lawyers and whatnot, then release it.

My point is: this isn't a "breaking story" but something that's been up. If you think the letter that Donde sent is the first draft, not been passed across Randy Boyd's desk, not been scrutinized by attorneys....... we'll have to disagree. Donde didn't just fire that letter off on her own yesterday.

That's all I'm saying. This has been brewing and likely good reporters have been smelling blood for awhile.

The Knoxville News-Sentinel had the letter before ESPN did.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Yeah a Vols fan allowed Spyre to use it. What’s the difference between that and donating millions to the collective? Miami dude IS their collective and hasn’t received a sniff.

I'm not going to pretend to know the NIL rules and from Plowman's letter, she makes the case the NCAA doesn't know the rules either.

I'm not really a "the NCAA hates UT" conspiracy guy. Everyone's entitled to their opinion on all that but I'm more inclined to think GA or Bama or FL or even Ole Miss might be pointing things out to the NCAA.

 

[brentcontractor]

Carson is being paid well but not by the collective. He's going to be doing legit endorsement deals. I don't know if he'll be a Doctor Pepper guy or not but he, like Stetson Bennett and Brock Bowers. will make a lot of money based on their true NIL.

So what you are saying is the Carson is being paid for something that he does not know the scope of what he is working for and that after he figures out what it is that he will do then he will announce what that it. Sounds legit to me.

 

[Volatile68]

The UT Chancellor absolutely nuked the NCAA in her letter to them. Not worried about this at all. NCAA is on life support at this point.

 

[norrislakevol]

NCAA is going to keep pushing buttons until the institutions join forces and kick them to the curb

This is very possible in the near future. They're giving Florida and Tennessee a hard time right now. What if those two start calling some big 10 schools and other SEC schools that will be more than willing to listen to them about forming a super conference? They best tread very, very lightly.

 

[Jimmyandjoes]

Great job by the administration. Sounds like we used a grey area to our advantage, which is now not grey but potentially settled matter of NCAA NIL law, and the NCAA wants to retroactively punish UT for it. I'm sure we're not the only institution they are looking at and by the letter from Donde, they better have their facts straight. The NCAA works for the members, the schools, at some point, members can change the partnership and get rid of the NCAA. The system of 5 years ago isn't coming back

 

[wmcovol]

If Spyre does decide to sue the NCAA, I will increase my donation to the Volunteer Club.

Nico should. NCAA has now damaged him, accusing him to taking inducements that were not illegal when he did & perfectly legal in his home state of California.

 

[Visiting Dawg]

So what you are saying is the Carson is being paid for something that he does not know the scope of what he is working for and that after he figures out what it is that he will do then he will announce what that it. Sounds legit to me.

Yes, he along with his advisors have determined that the history of Heisman candidate QBs playing on highly ranked teams have excellent opportunities for large endorsement deals. It's science.

 

[MississippiVOLS]

The letter sounds like Plowman is about to burn down the NCAA.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

The Knoxville News-Sentinel had the letter before ESPN did.

As inept as they are, it's virtually certain UT handed it to them. I think this story "broke" just like UT wanted it to break.

Will the NCAA back down? Will they "close the case" and move on? Will they want to fight?

I've really no idea but I think UT has a plan and is taking it to the public and other schools, perhaps, to put the NCAA on its heels.

 

[wmcovol]

Why is NCAA leaking to the press when TN hasn't received a notice of allegations yet?

You know why.

 

[freedom fighter]

I'm not going to pretend to know the NIL rules and from Plowman's letter, she makes the case the NCAA doesn't know the rules either.

I'm not really a "the NCAA hates UT" conspiracy guy. Everyone's entitled to their opinion on all that but I'm more inclined to think GA or Bama or FL or even Ole Miss might be pointing things out to the NCAA.

From the desks of Saban and Sankey. I had a Ala guy smirk at a big group lunch last week that TN would get what is coming.

 

[EZE]

And that is why any school that takes them to court over NIL will clean their clock. Heck the Supreme Court voted 9-0 against them, to get that court to vote 9-0 on anything says it all.

This is my take on this, too. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over NIL to the best of my understanding.

 

[Volfan2012]

Didn't the President of the NCAA say a couple of weeks ago that he wanted the schools to take control of NIL and start giving it out to players? The NCAA trying to act tough all of a sudden because suddenly all the schools are making the transfer portal a highest bidder venture. I think they will be fighting a losing battle again. I mean they had proof that a Florida State booster through an Assistant Coach was paying out money. Result was three game suspension for the coach and the booster can't do that anymore. This is what Florida State agreed to wasn't worth taking it any further for that weak punishment.

 

[LadyVolette]

Obviously not going to come out and agree with it.

Well we self reported with the other, so just sit down, Sparky

 

[VolFreakJosh]

NCAA is losing power and is trying to stay relevant.

Technically, you could punish every school for negotiating NIL contracts.

Sounds like a witch hunt.

 

[SeriousVolFan]

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://atozsports.com/nashville/nico-iamaleava-nil-contract-details-tennessee-news-ncaa/&ved=2ahUKEwjZpIrHoIaEAxWImokEHYLwCmoQxfQBKAB6BAgKEAI&usg=AOvVaw2eihpqCifs5C3IyU3RkjoT

 

[DD4ME]

Go Donde

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Since Plowman has acknowledged it, I think we can scratch "potential" from the thread title.