UTAD donations down more than 25% last year

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Makes you wonder how the other half live... Devil inside.. Devil inside
 
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I know that the lack of giving on many people's part was not due to the recent win/loss record. It was due to the culture and personality of the Athletic Department and to some extent, the University as a whole.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
I know that the lack of giving on many people's part was not due to the recent win/loss record. It was due to the culture and personality of the Athletic Department and to some extent, the University as a whole.
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This big time. And it will continue as long as Cheek and Hart are there as well as their continued emphasis on ignoring their land grant state wide university mission. It is the new normal.
 
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It's time to break out our checkbooks people. Cutting our donations out is just making a bad situation worse. We don't have to be on the field or or part of the administration to make a difference. Let's quit *****ing and moaning and actually do something productive. I will be sending a check tomorrow and my company match will be ready to be disbursed in July. I am going to do what I can to help.
 
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RoanokeVol said:
It's time to break out our checkbooks people. Cutting our donations out is just making a bad situation worse. We don't have to be on the field or or part of the administration to make a difference. Let's quit *****ing and moaning and actually do something productive. I will be sending a check tomorrow and my company match will be ready to be disbursed in July. I am going to do what I can to help.
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It is a bad idea to give money to someone that you believe will mismanage it. I compare it to giving an alcoholic a drink just to get him to shut up. But I put most of that on Hamilton.
 
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Reducing contributions gives them an incentive to change their behavior.
 
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congrats to you for being in the position to send money to those that mismanage it. it's like throwing it away. it's amazing how local, city, state and federal governing bodies mismanage money like they do when the hard working folks can barely manage with the money they make and try to manage it correctly. you can only grow so much before greed and decitfulness and stupidity take over.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
It is a bad idea to give money to someone that you believe will mismanage it. I compare it to giving an alcoholic a drink just to get him to shut up. But I put most of that on Hamilton.
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In my eyes, your last sentence sums things up perfectly. Hammy nearly brought the football program down by himself. I like Dave Hart. I met him and talked to him when he first took over his position. I like him and think he is going to help get the program back on track. I believe he gets a lot of flack due to Hammy's incompetence. I didn't like the Butch hire at first. He has grown on me more and more since he has taken over as HC. I am looking forward to seeing how he does on the field though. But until he fails, I think we need to be cautiously optimistic and continue to support our athletic department and donate, donate, donate.
 
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RoanokeVol said:
It's time to break out our checkbooks people. Cutting our donations out is just making a bad situation worse. We don't have to be on the field or or part of the administration to make a difference. Let's quit *****ing and moaning and actually do something productive. I will be sending a check tomorrow and my company match will be ready to be disbursed in July. I am going to do what I can to help.
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This isn't welfare or social security and in the real world you get paid off of performance. Now when this administration quits mimicking the us government in poor decision making and overspending on buyouts we can talk. They wasted 20 million to get us to a situation I feel only slightly better about than Dooley so until he shows promise they can just do without.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
This isn't welfare or social security and in the real world you get paid off of performance. Now when this administration quits mimicking the us government in poor decision making and overspending on buyouts we can talk. They wasted 20 million to get us to a situation I feel only slightly better about than Dooley so until he shows promise they can just do without.
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Look at Jones' buyout and you will see that the poor decision making and overspending on buyouts is no longer an issue. The cancer of the program was cut out when Hamilton was ousted. I guess I just have a different view on the University of Tennessee. While our athletic department is run like a business and a lot of money filters through the school in general, it is not an investment like a stock nor is UT a welfare recipients. They are not taking handouts from me. Having been a student at UT, the school and the football program has provided me with some of the best times of my life. My dad is a UT grad and he took me to my first football game when I was 4. When my son was born less than two years ago, I was ecstatic that I was able to donate to the VASF with my name and his on the donor form. I graduated the year Jon Ward retired and we won the National Championship. We have gone downhill quite a bit since then, to say the least, however my love for Tennessee grows every year. While it gets frustrating seeing poor decision making and a lot of the things that are done do not make sense to me, I will never turn my back on the University of Tennessee nor will I abstain from donating because we aren't where we need to be in the W-L column or we don't think that the money is being handled appropriately.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
I know that the lack of giving on many people's part was not due to the recent win/loss record. It was due to the culture and personality of the Athletic Department and to some extent, the University as a whole.
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The Ron Mexico said:
It is a bad idea to give money to someone that you believe will mismanage it. I compare it to giving an alcoholic a drink just to get him to shut up. But I put most of that on Hamilton.
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Two great posts.

The solution to fix the AD problems isn't giving more money. If anyone found out that the TV preacher used their donation that was intended to help starving kids is really being misused and is paying for his 5th vacation home in the Cayman Islands and his army of female "servants", yeah, pretty stupid move to double down on your giving.

How about putting that money in a special account, then when we have an AD that is properly managed, donate the whole account plus the accrued interest?
 
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I say until there is a change let the donations continue to drop.. cbj will get his chance but hart n cheek should go.. they took a golden goose n made it into a duck n looked each n every vols fan in the eye in said Fu.. I got this n u can do nothing about it...

That alone should make us quit donating... They will not get one cent of support from my family until they turn it around.
 
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RoanokeVol said:
In my eyes, your last sentence sums things up perfectly. Hammy nearly brought the football program down by himself. I like Dave Hart. I met him and talked to him when he first took over his position. I like him and think he is going to help get the program back on track. I believe he gets a lot of flack due to Hammy's incompetence. I didn't like the Butch hire at first. He has grown on me more and more since he has taken over as HC. I am looking forward to seeing how he does on the field though. But until he fails, I think we need to be cautiously optimistic and continue to support our athletic department and donate, donate, donate.
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I despise Dave Hart. He's earned his own flak.
 
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RoanokeVol said:
Look at Jones' buyout and you will see that the poor decision making and overspending on buyouts is no longer an issue. The cancer of the program was cut out when Hamilton was ousted. I guess I just have a different view on the University of Tennessee. While our athletic department is run like a business and a lot of money filters through the school in general, it is not an investment like a stock nor is UT a welfare recipients. They are not taking handouts from me. Having been a student at UT, the school and the football program has provided me with some of the best times of my life. My dad is a UT grad and he took me to my first football game when I was 4. When my son was born less than two years ago, I was ecstatic that I was able to donate to the VASF with my name and his on the donor form. I graduated the year Jon Ward retired and we won the National Championship. We have gone downhill quite a bit since then, to say the least, however my love for Tennessee grows every year. While it gets frustrating seeing poor decision making and a lot of the things that are done do not make sense to me, I will never turn my back on the University of Tennessee nor will I abstain from donating because we aren't where we need to be in the W-L column or we don't think that the money is being handled appropriately.
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Don't believe in tough love? Helping to make a change for the better isn't turning your back on UT. Continuing to support the cluster going on is turning your back on UT.

en·abler*Pronunciation:*\i-ˈnā-blər, -bəl-ər\Function:*nounDate: 1615:*one that*enables*another to achieve an end ;especially*:*one who enables*another to persist in self-destructive behavior (as substance abuse) by providing excuses or by making it possible to avoid the consequences of such behavior
 
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SURFSIDEBEACHVOL said:
As long as Cheek and Hart are at UT, none of my $$ will be going there.
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There is a growing number of folks who feel this way. I am with you my friend. No donations, no tickets, no PPVs, and no merchandise.....period.

I've asked my family that they do the same. I also asked them to refrain from purchasing any gifts (birthday/Christmas) that relate to UT.

We are a land grant university designed to benefit the whole state. We weren't intended to be exclusionary like an Ivy League school.
 
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JayVols said:
There is a growing number of folks who feel this way. I am with you my friend. No donations, no tickets, no PPVs, and no merchandise.....period.

I've asked my family that they do the same. I also asked them to refrain from purchasing any gifts (birthday/Christmas) that relate to UT.

We are a land grant university designed to benefit the whole state. We weren't intended to be exclusionary like an Ivy League school.
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Getting into UT isn't hard. I swear you people are the most ridiculous people on the face of the planet when you legit think a university should not care about academics. It's funny UF and UGA are harder to get into than UT and they are going alright I think. This isn't a semi-pro team it's a group of student-athletes.
 
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