Utah/Wyoming/Colorado vacation

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at night we'd walk across from the dorms to the Lake employee pub. there'd be a full grown male bison hanging out, which you dont see till youre right up on him. thats when you walk back inside and find another way there.

truthfully i wouldnt mess with any of the hooved animals. Moose are no joke either.

Yeah, I'd definitely only do it on the wagon tour.

The last night we were there, my son woke up with a terrible ear infection and we had to go to the ER. Driving through the town square I had to stop to let the biggest mule deer buck I'd ever seen walk across the road and down a sidewalk. It was crazy looking.
 
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Glacier NP

Looks incredible. Unfortunately it's a little far out of the way for us this go around.

Online I'm seeing suggestions that we should spend a day on each loop in the park? Is that sound advice? One on the north loop and one on the south
 
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Never. And I mean never..... Use the word Jackson and Gatlinburg together in the same sentence.

I agree to an extent, but you don't go 2000 miles to Jackson hole to hang out in hotels and restaurants. You go for the outdoors. Staying in Jackson is a must for winter sports season, but it is a waste of a lot of time driving in spring and summer. Unless you can't get a room or cabin closer to the park...Signal mountain lodge and cabins, Jackson Lake Lodge and cabins, Colter Bay village cabins or Jenny Lake lodge and Cabins. Plus a lot of private, just outside the park lodges and cabins.
 
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May is considered snowmelt time. Not much in way of watersports. The snake will be blown out. Fishing small creeks for baby cuts is worthwhile :) i know youre not in to fish. Hiking Targhee is a must, as is stopping for breakfast at Noras Fish Creek Inn!! The drive to Targee through Teton Pass to Driggs will take a solild 30-35 minutes. Id knock that out and then drive back to the Ski resort and ride the tram after stopping for lunch at Mangy Moose area for lunch (all in same area). Then go for a drink at Million Dollas Cowboy bar. Voila! Youve seen and done Jackson Hole. Now. move on to Yellowstone. Id stay at Lake Yellowstone Hotel it is absolutely breathtakingly beautiful. Panoramics of the Absarokas. have fun man.

Why the hell would you go all the way to NW Wyoming, the most beautiful place on earth imo..to go bar and restaurant hopping, can drink anywhere, but the tram is a must. Targee is alright, but why in the world would you waste a day going to the boring side of the Tetons?
 
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Looks incredible. Unfortunately it's a little far out of the way for us this go around.

Online I'm seeing suggestions that we should spend a day on each loop in the park? Is that sound advice? One on the north loop and one on the south

That is a good idea on the loop. We did West side then east side.
 
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Why the hell would you go all the way to NW Wyoming, the most beautiful place on earth imo..to go bar and restaurant hopping, can drink anywhere, but the tram is a must. Targee is alright, but why in the world would you waste a day going to the boring side of the Tetons?

This is more along the lines of our thinking. FL to WY isn't cheap and we want to take full advantage of the outdoors. More interested in the nature aspect of it.
 
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Also, how's Salt Lake City? We were thinking of spending a day there since we will most likely fly into/out of there.
 
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Also, how's Salt Lake City? We were thinking of spending a day there since we will most likely fly into/out of there.

I honestly don't know a whole lot about SLC. We were going to fly SWA into there next trip, but our kids want to drive cross country again. I know it is beautiful around that area with the Wasatch mountains.
 
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This is more along the lines of our thinking. FL to WY isn't cheap and we want to take full advantage of the outdoors. More interested in the nature aspect of it.

The visitor centers are a must if you like a cool museum\learning experience. The best ones are the the Craig Thomas Discovery & Visitor center, Laurence S. Rockefeller Preserve center, Colter Bay visitor center and American Indian museum in Grand Teton National park, and The Old Faithful Visitor center and Canyon Visitor center in Yellowstone National park. If it is a rainy day, it is a good time to hit those. Somebody mentioned the national elk refuge, but the elk are going to be immigrated back into the parks by then. The elk immigrate onto the elk refuge during the winter, the elk, moose, bison and pronghorn should be dropping calves left and right in mid to late May. There were hundreds of calves of all species in mid June when we went.
 
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Looks incredible. Unfortunately it's a little far out of the way for us this go around.

Online I'm seeing suggestions that we should spend a day on each loop in the park? Is that sound advice? One on the north loop and one on the south

there are some geothermal feautures at Grant Village worth exploring, and some falls we used to jump off in southern entrance in from GTNP. Other than that, skibbit and head to OF. There and West Yellowstone are a good day trip. Gardiner and Hayden Valley one day. possibly Red Lodge/Cody if youre adventurous. Lake is laidback with Canyon close by. The Yellowstone canyon is strong as death.
 
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The visitor centers are a must if you like a cool museum\learning experience. The best ones are the the Craig Thomas Discovery & Visitor center, Laurence S. Rockefeller Preserve center, Colter Bay visitor center and American Indian museum in Grand Teton National park, and The Old Faithful Visitor center and Canyon Visitor center in Yellowstone National park. If it is a rainy day, it is a good time to hit those. Somebody mentioned the national elk refuge, but the elk are going to be immigrated back into the parks by then. The elk immigrate onto the elk refuge during the winter, the elk, moose, bison and pronghorn should be dropping calves left and right in mid to late May. There were hundreds of calves of all species in mid June when we went.

skip SLC iyam. Idaho Falls is a cool town. Truthfully you'll have enough to see and do in and around park.
 
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Also, how's Salt Lake City? We were thinking of spending a day there since we will most likely fly into/out of there.

What do you like? There is a lot of Mormon history to check out there, if that interests you at all. The mountains are amazing there, so there are day hikes. There is a cool brewery pretty close to the airport (Squatters).

I only paid for a hotel there once, but the Little America is pretty nice and reasonable and you're right in downtown.
 
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And if you eat in SLC, I highly recommend Pat's BBQ (featured on diners, dives, and drive-ins) or the Red Iguana (Mexican).
 
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skip SLC iyam. Idaho Falls is a cool town. Truthfully you'll have enough to see and do in and around park.
Totally with jack on this one. Time not spent in the parks will be regretted later. Personal experience. It is hard to get people to understand how much there is to see and do inside Yellowstone and Grand Teton NP. We spent 2 1/2 days in GTNP and 3 full days in Yellowstone, going from 6am to sundown every day, and just could not get to everything we wanted.
 
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Totally with jack on this one. Time not spent in the parks will be regretted later. Personal experience. It is hard to get people to understand how much there is to see and do inside Yellowstone and Grand Teton NP. We spent 2 1/2 days in GTNP and 3 full days in Yellowstone, going from 6am to sundown every day, and just could not get to everything we wanted.

well. i think its uses and gratifications. it helps if you have someone who knows the area. as employees we did a bus tour of Ystone. you can charter a bus at OF for cheap! They also do guided tours in the original tour buses from 1900's at Lake Hotel...as employees we also did a chuckwagon cook out by fire one night in Hayden Valley (you can do this too in Summer). lots of beer and stars for miles. unlike any experience ive had. gosh, those skies.

but thats a good plan of attack. theres tons to do in Jackson. but id been there so many times i got to do most of it, and, wasnt a tourist so i skipped the Elk Refuge etc. Honestly id seen and heard elk every day of the week, its a fact of life out there!

my best suggestion is to really do your homework and research different pts of interesrs in yellowstone. ill tell you the cannot misses. Grand Prismatic Springs, upper and lower Yellowstone falls, and grand canyon of the yellowstone, Undine Falls, Mammoth Hot Springs, Lake Yellowstone, Old Faithful and Old Faitfhul Lodge. Just off the top of my head. You cannot miss Grand Prismatic! Tope Hole is cool too. but, ive never seen anything like Prismatic.
 
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well. i think its uses and gratifications. it helps if you have someone who knows the area. as employees we did a bus tour of Ystone. you can charter a bus at OF for cheap! They also do guided tours in the original tour buses from 1900's at Lake Hotel...as employees we also did a chuckwagon cook out by fire one night in Hayden Valley (you can do this too in Summer). lots of beer and stars for miles. unlike any experience ive had. gosh, those skies.

but thats a good plan of attack. theres tons to do in Jackson. but id been there so many times i got to do most of it, and, wasnt a tourist so i skipped the Elk Refuge etc. Honestly id seen and heard elk every day of the week, its a fact of life out there!

my best suggestion is to really do your homework and research different pts of interesrs in yellowstone. ill tell you the cannot misses. Grand Prismatic Springs, upper and lower Yellowstone falls, and grand canyon of the yellowstone, Undine Falls, Mammoth Hot Springs, Lake Yellowstone, Old Faithful and Old Faitfhul Lodge. Just off the top of my head. You cannot miss Grand Prismatic! Tope Hole is cool too. but, ive never seen anything like Prismatic.

Just remember you HAVE to hike to the top of the hill overlooking Grand Prismatic to really SEE it. The boardwalk at ground level is a to do, if for nothing else but to see Excelsior Geyser which is at the same area(Midway Geyser basin), but you cannot really see Prismatic from ground level. Also at GTNP a nice little hike is the String lake hike, it ends at a beautiful spot on Leigh lake. That spot is one of my favorite places on earth. The ferry across Jenny Lake to Cascade falls at the mouth of Cascade canyon is a must do. I dont think you will be able to hike up to Inspiration point from cascade falls that early in the season, but if the trail is open DO IT. The Jackson Lake lodge is an awesome place to eat, and so is Dornans. Taggart and Phelps lake hikes are also beautiful but may still be really snowy in mid May. Once again you may get lucky and have an early spring thus year, I hope so for you. No matter what you do, you will be mesmerized and fall in love with place...good luck and one more thing, get on it pretty soon as far as reservations, I think they are expecting a lot more business this year due to the cheap gas prices...anything you need to know just ask. Me or jack can probably answer it for you. I think he has a little different perspective on it because he actually lived and worked there. I am a visitor not a resident.
 
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Sounds like a road trip... my advice, if you see a gas station, stop and fill up... no matter what. And don't let the gauge dip below 1/2. Towns are spaced out 150 miles or so.
 
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Haven't been to Utah but did a trip to Montana (Glacier) and came into Yellowstone from the North (Mammoth Springs entrance).

My recommendation is that if you have time and are in Yellowstone, take a drive out the NE entrance and do the Beartooth Hwy. to Red Lodge Montana. Lot's of wildwest history and a spectacular drive.

It should be open in May but depends on the snow. I went in late July and at the pass there was still at least 20 feet of snow they cut through to open the road. The plateau is spectacular - you'll think you are in the Sound of Music.

An All-American Road in Wyoming & Montana | Beartooth Highway | Montana & Wyoming Scenic Drives

Clearing the road at the end of April!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliq3v_w2ow[/youtube]

looks fun

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyqpEHXmdvQ[/youtube]
 
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Haven't been to Utah but did a trip to Montana (Glacier) and came into Yellowstone from the North (Mammoth Springs entrance).

My recommendation is that if you have time and are in Yellowstone, take a drive out the NE entrance and do the Beartooth Hwy. to Red Lodge Montana. Lot's of wildwest history and a spectacular drive.

It should be open in May but depends on the snow. I went in late July and at the pass there was still at least 20 feet of snow they cut through to open the road. The plateau is spectacular - you'll think you are in the Sound of Music.

An All-American Road in Wyoming & Montana | Beartooth Highway | Montana & Wyoming Scenic Drives

Clearing the road at the end of April!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliq3v_w2ow[/youtube]

looks fun

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyqpEHXmdvQ[/youtube]

On our trip we were going to leave Yellowstone by the NE entrance and take the Beartooth. It has been on my bucketlist of great drives for years...it snowed on June 17th the day before we were leaving, and the Beartooth got 10 inches of snow and they shut it down. I ended up still taking the NE exit and drove the Chief Joseph hwy over Dead Indian pass. It was spectacular, most people don't know about that road because the Beartooth hwy fork rightly gets all the publicity. Next year I'm going to scratch that sucker off my list Lord willing.
 
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If you notice the year in those videos it was late April 2012. We went in June 2011. The 2011 winter was the worst and longest in 50 years. 2012 was one of the lightest. In 2011 they did not get the Beartooth pass open at all till the 28th of May (I remember because I was checking the website every other day to see if it was open yet)...That is what I mean about the weather being volatile. Day to Day and Season to Season.
 
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If you notice the year in those videos it was late April 2012. We went in June 2011. The 2011 winter was the worst and longest in 50 years. 2012 was one of the lightest. In 2011 they did not get the Beartooth pass open at all till the 28th of May (I remember because I was checking the website every other day to see if it was open yet)...That is what I mean about the weather being volatile. Day to Day and Season to Season.

We ended up on it completely by happy accident. We were on our trek home and had come from Missoula down to Bozeman. We dropped down into Yellowstone and looked at the map and saw the BTH headed the way we wanted to head.

Might have been the best day of the trip. Stayed in Red Lodge that night in the Pollard hotel; the first brick building in that town and a place that had hosted the likes of Calamity Jane and Buffalo Bill Cody.

In one trip I got to drive two of the greatest scenic roads in America; the Beartooth Hwy and Going to the Sun Road in Glacier

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLIXExKyx_E[/youtube]
 
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Haven't been to Utah but did a trip to Montana (Glacier) and came into Yellowstone from the North (Mammoth Springs entrance).

My recommendation is that if you have time and are in Yellowstone, take a drive out the NE entrance and do the Beartooth Hwy. to Red Lodge Montana. Lot's of wildwest history and a spectacular drive.

It should be open in May but depends on the snow. I went in late July and at the pass there was still at least 20 feet of snow they cut through to open the road. The plateau is spectacular - you'll think you are in the Sound of Music.

An All-American Road in Wyoming & Montana | Beartooth Highway | Montana & Wyoming Scenic Drives

Clearing the road at the end of April!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eliq3v_w2ow[/youtube]

looks fun

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyqpEHXmdvQ[/youtube]

Definitely looking into this further. Looks like something we would enjoy, if open.
 
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We ended up on it completely by happy accident. We were on our trek home and had come from Missoula down to Bozeman. We dropped down into Yellowstone and looked at the map and saw the BTH headed the way we wanted to head.

Might have been the best day of the trip. Stayed in Red Lodge that night in the Pollard hotel; the first brick building in that town and a place that had hosted the likes of Calamity Jane and Buffalo Bill Cody.

In one trip I got to drive two of the greatest scenic roads in America; the Beartooth Hwy and Going to the Sun Road in Glacier

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLIXExKyx_E[/youtube]

That is awesome. Both of those are still on my bucket list. I have knocked Trail Ridge rd and the San Juan parkway and Skyline drive off, but I still got the PCH and The Crater Lake rim road along with a few others to do before I leave this world.
 
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Thanks for the advice on SLC, huff.

We would enjoy the history aspect and might be worth it to do a short hike or see the salt flats of time allows. Would probably be the day we fly out as we are looking at evening flights.

All that depends on timing and flights, but the national parks are the first priority. Just enjoy exploring new cities is all.
 
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Thanks for the advice on SLC, huff.

We would enjoy the history aspect and might be worth it to do a short hike or see the salt flats of time allows. Would probably be the day we fly out as we are looking at evening flights.

All that depends on timing and flights, but the national parks are the first priority. Just enjoy exploring new cities is all.

Mos def. I never did the Tetons, but I hiked King's Peak with my old man a few years back. That's basically the same mountain range. Enough false peaks to make you blow your brains out, but it was a good experience. I think we did like 33 miles in 2 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_Peak_(Utah)
 

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