Vanderbilt bowl game - Where ?

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ukvols said:
The two MCBs Vandy has played in had about 55,000 fans each. And, that was with BC and NCSU for opponents. So, it seems that Vandy sells more tickets for the MSB than their home games. Liberty is the only other possibility, IMO. The SEC wants all of its bowls to do well, so they're going to want to keep Vandy in TN.
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Hope the SEC now sees what that dbag in the review booth at Neyland cost them, UT would have sold out both of those bowls
 
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ukvols said:
The two MCBs Vandy has played in had about 55,000 fans each. And, that was with BC and NCSU for opponents. So, it seems that Vandy sells more tickets for the MSB than their home games. Liberty is the only other possibility, IMO. The SEC wants all of its bowls to do well, so they're going to want to keep Vandy in TN.
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I think the MCB has a lot more local support than just the teams. I know I had a block of 5 seats for several years because they were cheap. Had some friends who at one time bought 20 each year and sold out if a big school came in.
 
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TrueOrange said:
I thought it was that the Capital One Bowl is contractually obligated to select the winningest Big Ten and SEC teams that do not make a BCS game, or a team within one win of the winningest in its conference?

Wouldn't - if Missouri were to lose to Auburn - that put a 10-2, possibly higher-ranked South Carolina as an equal possibility of selection with an 11-2 Missouri?
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I think the SEC made a change to what the other poster said to prevent a title-game loser from dropping considerably. I cannot remember which school fell to prompt the switch.
 
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ukvols said:
I think the SEC made a change to what the other poster said to prevent a title-game loser from dropping considerably. I cannot remember which school fell to prompt the switch.
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They would have to have changed it just last year, based on the history / participants and their standings in the conference the last few years

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MSCE09 said:
The SECCG loser cannot fall past the Capital One unless they have two more losses than the next team in selection order. So in this case a 2 loss Auburn/Missouri team has to go to the Capital One
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If I'm understanding you right, then I don't think that's the case unless the rules have changed. In 2007 we finished with 4 losses after losing the SECCG and UF had 3 yet they ended up in the Capital One Bowl and us in the Outback. We would've only had 1 more loss than them.

If they allow Mizzou to fall, assuming they lose, and they're still around I could see the MCB reaching out to them due to distance. For travel sakes them or OM would be ideal.
 
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ukvols said:
I think the SEC made a change to what the other poster said to prevent a title-game loser from dropping considerably. I cannot remember which school fell to prompt the switch.
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Probably in 2005, after a 10-2 LSU team ended up in the Chick-Fil-A bowl and promptly destroyed Miami. They were 10-1 in the regular season, with that 1 loss being to us in OT, before losing the SECCG. That was a team very close to playing for a NC and instead ended up in ATL.
 
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TrueOrange said:
They would have to have changed it just last year, based on the history / participants and their standings in the conference the last few years

Capital One Bowl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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bowlinggreenvol said:
If I'm understanding you right, then I don't think that's the case unless the rules have changed. In 2007 we finished with 4 losses after losing the SECCG and UF had 3 yet they ended up in the Capital One Bowl and us in the Outback. We would've only had 1 more loss than them.

If they allow Mizzou to fall, assuming they lose, and they're still around I could see the MCB reaching out to them due to distance. For travel sakes them or OM would be ideal.
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You guys are obviously right regarding the Capital One.
I just remember reading about the SEC doing something to keep its title game loser from dropping too far. Maybe it was another bowl that had to take them. Or I'm just wrong. If I find it, I'll post it.
 
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Without a stipulation forcing Cap One to take Mizzou, I agree with those who see the Cocks going to Orlando, and Mizzou going to Tampa if they lose to Aubie.
 
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The way I read about the bowl selection requirements was that it was a recent change, UGA went to the cap one last year. Though the cap one probably would have taken them anyway. Also the runner up can't fall further than the peach bowl no matter their record. So those are two different requirements. However it is very hard to confirm any of this as it doesn't seem to be published anywhere from the sec or the bowls.
 
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Another reason I think Missouri could fall as far as the Chick-fil-a bowl if they lose next weekend. SI referenced something from a St. Louis Dispatch article when talking about last weekend's games:

A St. Louis Post-Dispatch article last week noted that the Tigers garnered higher local TV ratings during their 2007 Big 12 run than they have this season, a signal some fans aren't accustomed to seeing games against Georgia and Tennessee rather than versus Kansas and Kansas State.
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They've performed very well, but they don't have a big name draw and - while ticket sales haven't been an issue (they've sold well at home and their SEC championship game allotment was already gone by Sunday) - they're not garnering the TV rankings.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
If I'm understanding you right, then I don't think that's the case unless the rules have changed. In 2007 we finished with 4 losses after losing the SECCG and UF had 3 yet they ended up in the Capital One Bowl and us in the Outback. We would've only had 1 more loss than them.

If they allow Mizzou to fall, assuming they lose, and they're still around I could see the MCB reaching out to them due to distance. For travel sakes them or OM would be ideal.
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There's no way the system in place would allow a Missouri ranked somewhere between the top 10 and top 15 (after a lost to Auburn) to fall that far (to the MCB).


That said, the MCB would be ecstatic to have a team ranked that high in their game; however it would never happen with the rankings and differences in records.
 
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TrueOrange said:
There's no way the system in place would allow a Missouri ranked somewhere between the top 10 and top 15 (after a lost to Auburn) to fall that far (to the MCB).


That said, the MCB would be ecstatic to have a team ranked that high in their game; however it would never happen with the rankings and differences in records.
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I agree. Simply stating that would be an ideal bowl for all sides (minus payout difference for Mizzou). I don't see them drawing back to ATL very well if they lose the SECCG though.
 
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508mikey said:
even at 8-4 --- They are a boring team to watch and I dont think their students would travel anywhere but to mom and dads for holidays --- cant see anyone wanting them except the Music City Bowl
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Chances they may fall to Birmingham. Ole miss will go to music city, miss state is a lock for liberty. Vandy would then fall to Birmingham.
 
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