Villains of Fiction

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#26
SWIL said:
Firestorm, you seem fixated on comic book villains. Do you write comics?
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Yes.

But currently im writing a fantasy movie series.

That applies to any villain whether comic book or not give them a brief explanation for their motive, or motives.

Obvious exception is clarence boddicker as he is a psychopath.
Also the aliens in edge of tommorow as I believe its left it up to the audience.

Final Destination I believe did a great job of being a non physical unseen villain. With Death as the star it may be one of the most original things by hollywood in horror and in general.


Currently reading an unexpected grace.
Villain if there is one doesnt make a large appearnce so far.
Other villains could be non physical such as fear, and allowing the past to dictate your present.
 
#28
#28
Tony Soprano, just a great character.

Is he a good guy capable of doing horrible things, or an awful guy with a soft side? Both? Neither?
 
#30
#30
Toujours Pret said:
Tony Soprano, just a great character.

Is he a good guy capable of doing horrible things, or an awful guy with a soft side? Both? Neither?
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He cared about his family so you could say he's a good man in that area.

But mainly he is a bastard although understandable as the psychiatrist sessions along with information about his dysfunctional problems in his family revealed.
Would you consider him a magnificent bastard? This is one mobster that proved he doesn't have to wear the predictable typical pinstripe suits to be look kickass.
Lost a large portion of his head but didn't affect his confidence.

Shredder and Krang of the original Teenage mutant ninja turtles cartoon.
They are the great odd couple of villains.
Although both on the same side they often have periods of arguing, insulting, and other negative talk. I do see a parody of this in who framed Rodger rabbit even though it's the heroes in that movie,
Understandable as Shredder and Krang both want to be the one driving the car.
 
#34
#34
Toujours Pret said:
Tony Soprano, just a great character.

Is he a good guy capable of doing horrible things, or an awful guy with a soft side? Both? Neither?
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He and Walter White are more like anti heros to me... They are bad men but we can't help but cheer for them
 
#37
#37
vols 30 said:
The first 2 Hellraiser movies were great. They should have stopped there.
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I assume others could be called hot garbage.:)
When sequels continue to get made and get so far away from what the original was it's egregious.
Best of the best 3 has to do with fighting a gang of white supremacists, the fourth the mafia kidnaps Tommy's daughter to get a cd that he has that proves the mafia's illicit activities.
This has No damn resemblance to the first movie of a Olympic material arts tournament of United States vs a highly favored Korean team, and a second one where they are in a modern day gladiatorial style tournament but in a brutal underground fighting arena.
Both were tournaments with the second with higher stakes as it's the fight of their life's.



Same could be said of saw or maybe just one as the standard villain gets away but isn't the cliche of some money heist plus life on a island.
 
#38
#38
SWIL said:
He and Walter White are more like anti heros to me... They are bad men but we can't help but cheer for them
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I feel like a good villain could, if the story was told form his perspective, make us see him as not a villain, but an anti-hero (not always, but often times.)

Anyone who has read the Killing Joke and hasn't at least felt deep remorse for the Joker is a terrible person. We all feel for Darth Vader to some degree, knowing he really turned evil out of love and to protect his family (and his last second heel/face turn).

The ones we remember the most are either the ones who are so truly evil that they can never come back, or the ones who make us question our own morals and beliefs, even if only for a second.
 
#39
#39
Daloth said:
I feel like a good villain could, if the story was told form his perspective, make us see him as not a villain, but an anti-hero (not always, but often times.)

Anyone who has read the Killing Joke and hasn't at least felt deep remorse for the Joker is a terrible person. We all feel for Darth Vader to some degree, knowing he really turned evil out of love and to protect his family (and his last second heel/face turn).

The ones we remember the most are either the ones who are so truly evil that they can never come back, or the ones who make us question our own morals and beliefs, even if only for a second.
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Davy Jones and Maleficent are both relatable and understandable villains. Both have been hurt in the area of love which resulted in changing them.
This doesn't mean everyone hurt in this way will become malevolent and destructive negative but they are still realistic villains.

The villain Deacon in broken arrow is scary as we've all had possible moments where we feel we've overlooked for a promotion, a starting spot, etc multiple times and deacon is a overboard worst case reaction to dealing with the problem.
These are far more terrifying than a supernatural killer that can kill you in your dreams, a brutal animal that won't stop killing, zombies, elite hunters that are aliens from another planet, etc.

As joker said madness is like gravity all it needs is a little push, or in psychology showed that we're all capable of evil.
This was clearly shown in the Stanford prison experiment.
That's what terrifies us. To not just understand evil but also know we are capable of evil.
 
#40
#40
Ghosts are some of the greatest kind of villains.
They're already dead so can you kill them maybe but not as easily as humans, plus their are vast possibilities if how they can be visually depicted for their appearances.
 
#42
#42
BadJerry20 said:
I hate ghosts and haunting movies.
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Different strokes for different folks. :)


One of the greatest villains that is unseen is Claw of the original cartoon inspector gadget.
The only thing shown is his claw hand, along with a chair he sits in.
I say unseen because you don't see his entire body only a small portion. So it does allow you to use your imagination.
He could be all machine, mostly machine with some bit human parts aka Darth Vader style, or he's mostly human with only the claw being non human, etc.
Which raises another question of how did he get the claw was it all related to a accident or some other negative event he couldn't stop.
 
#44
#44
I saw the expendables 3 and Mel Gibson was topnotch as the villain.

Almost anything he said was kickass so he was like Clarence Boddicker, and he'll pick up a gun to finish the job when needed.
 
#45
#45
Anti-villains in general are the best kinds of villains. Also, I am impressed by villains that spark true fear or hate in the viewer/reader. One that comes to mind is the guard Percy, from the Green Mile.

I've been watching movies for 33 years, and this guy haunted my 7-year-old self worse than anything...by far:

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#46
#46
n_huffhines said:
Anti-villains in general are the best kinds of villains. Also, I am impressed by villains that spark true fear or hate in the viewer/reader. One that comes to mind is the guard Percy, from the Green Mile.

I've been watching movies for 33 years, and this guy haunted my 7-year-old self worse than anything...by far:

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Who the heck is this guy?

I watched a video on the 15 most likable villains in visual media that I need to link.
It had a guy that I never heard of that fails in so many ways to cheat in a race. I guess that makes him the live action human version of wile e coyote.
 
#47
#47
Fu Manchu- dude was just straight up evil and stopped at nothing to have world domination.
 
#49
#49
One of the greatest unseen villains is claw of the inspector gadget cartoon.

While you did see his hand and part of his arm that's all you saw along with the chair he sat in, and hearing his voice. So one you can use your imagination for what he looks like.
 
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