Vince McMahon had it all wrong when he started the XFL

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volfanhill said:
Of course there is. Do you think college football would fail if moved to the spring? Time of year isn't the issue.
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It would be interesting to see this put to a real test. We can only speculate... but I think you're wrong. American sports fans have a well-structured calendar.
 
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The_Big_Orange said:
He should have started a farm league. 18-22 year olds only with no NFL or CFL experience allowed.

He could have beaten everyone to the punch. And that punch seems like the only logical outcome that will come from our current situation. Colleges have no business participating in the pay to play model they currently find themselves sucked into. Even if they can’t directly participate, they can most definitely suffer from it. Which is what they’ll end up doing in the end I’m afraid. (Obviously though this is just a very uneducated opinion.)
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There was one chief reason, in my opinion, that the XFL failed. And that reason was Vince McMahon himself.

I don't think it would have matter if he had created a league trying to outbid the NFL for top talent, a farm league to give guys who did not want to attend college a shot at impressing pro scouts, or a spring league to compete for TV time against other sports, a farm system, or a league that brings football to towns without a NFL team.

Every time I watched XFL, I realized that McMahon, who cut his teeth on pro wrestling, would end up scripting games just like he does wrestling matches. How is a guy who does that for a living going to create a true competitive league? It may have never happened, but on the occasions I watched XFL, I was always watching for indications that the fix was in, just like it is on wrestling shows. And I have a feeling I was not the only fan thinking that.

Now, unlike the WFL or USFL, McMahon might have the finances from WWE to delve into it again. But, and again this is just my opinion, I do not see fans trusting a wrestling promoter to trust him overseeing a "real" sports league.
 
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I know there are a ton of reasons these leagues failed but I think it could survive. The MLS has really come around and I think another league could work but it has to have the right conditions.

The semi pro farm is the most realistic template imo. However I think the fan base needs starpower and no gimmicks. They want football very similar to college and NFL. They need to make good deals with recent former stars to come play to create more buzz. Also, no dumb team names or uniforms.
 
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It wasn't just Vince Mcmahon. There have been thousands of pro / semi-pro football leagues -- And NOBODY cares! (americanfootballdatabase.fandom.com) The reason that nobody cares is because if the players in these other leagues were actually any good -- they'd be playing in the NFL! The AFL probably wouldn't have even survived if it hadn't merged with the NFL., either. -- Sorry, but between college and the NFL, I watch enough football in the fall.
 
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hog88 said:
The USFL was doing ok playing in the spring. If Trump didn't try to move it to the fall it might have survived.
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This is just repetition of anti-Trump rhetoric. Reality is, the only way the USFL was going to make it was to be absorbed by the NFL and the only way to do that was to present themselves as viable competition on Sundays in the fall. The AFL never played spring football, and the USFL needed to mimic the AFL. The USFL failed because there weren't enough large cities that didn't already have an NFL franchise like when the AFL was formed. They had money and were able to compete with the NFL for talent. Had they actually played that first fall season when they were going to play at night only (the NFL only played during the day), we might be having a different conversation. Especially with regards to Birmingham and Memphis.
 
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dcm3w said:
I know there are a ton of reasons these leagues failed but I think it could survive. The MLS has really come around and I think another league could work but it has to have the right conditions.

The semi pro farm is the most realistic template imo. However I think the fan base needs starpower and no gimmicks. They want football very similar to college and NFL. They need to make good deals with recent former stars to come play to create more buzz. Also, no dumb team names or uniforms.
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What is MLS? Isn't that some kind of nasty sexually transmitted disease that causes brain damage?
 
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