Virginia Board is Set to Return Names of the Confederate Generals Stonewall Jackson, Turner Ashby and Robert E Lee to two Schools

[Franklin Pierce]

Two Virginia schools which had been named after Confederate generals and soldiers and which changed their names in the wake of the 2020 murder of George Floyd, are to revert back to their earlier names.

The Shenandoah County School Board changed Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View High School and Ashby-Lee Elementary School to Honey Run Elementary School in Quicksburg, following a board vote in July 2020 and final approval in January 2021.

But less than two years later, a petition was launched to gauge the strength of feeling on reverting the schools back to their original names.

In 2020, a vote was held to switch the name of Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View, but it is likely the old name could be brought back within months

Virginia board rename schools after Confederate generals after dropping titles George Floyd murder | Daily Mail Online

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Two Virginia schools which had been named after Confederate generals and soldiers and which changed their names in the wake of the 2020 murder of George Floyd, are to revert back to their earlier names.

The Shenandoah County School Board changed Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View High School and Ashby-Lee Elementary School to Honey Run Elementary School in Quicksburg, following a board vote in July 2020 and final approval in January 2021.

But less than two years later, a petition was launched to gauge the strength of feeling on reverting the schools back to their original names.

In 2020, a vote was held to switch the name of Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View, but it is likely the old name could be brought back within months

Virginia board rename schools after Confederate generals after dropping titles George Floyd murder | Daily Mail Online

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

From one extreme, to the other. What is so hard about admitting the truth about this country instead of left wing or right wing propoganda?

Louisiana's Department Of Education Shifts From CRT To American Exceptionalism | ZeroHedge

“We have the quest for freedom embedded in the American story throughout the course of our history, and for me, instead of approaching a set of standards through other ideologies, we felt like the sweet spot for us was the Freedom Framework, because that sets the tone for the greatness of our country,” Brumley said.

That greatness includes recognizing where there has been the need to eradicate barbaric institutions like slavery and racist policies, he said.

Our foreign policy since the end of WWII and our domestic policy in the last 2 years clearly shows that we don't advance freedom at home our abroad in the manner that I feel will be propagandized in this situation.

 

[landscapingvol]

From one extreme, to the other. What is so hard about admitting the truth about this country instead of lft wing or right wing propoganda?

Louisiana's Department Of Education Shifts From CRT To American Exceptionalism | ZeroHedge



Our foreign policy since the end of WWII and our domestic policy in the last 2 years clearly shows that we don't advance freedom at home our abroad in the manner that I feel will be propagandized in this situation.

You disagree with American Exceptionalism? Shocking

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Two Virginia schools which had been named after Confederate generals and soldiers and which changed their names in the wake of the 2020 murder of George Floyd, are to revert back to their earlier names.

The Shenandoah County School Board changed Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View High School and Ashby-Lee Elementary School to Honey Run Elementary School in Quicksburg, following a board vote in July 2020 and final approval in January 2021.

But less than two years later, a petition was launched to gauge the strength of feeling on reverting the schools back to their original names.

In 2020, a vote was held to switch the name of Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View, but it is likely the old name could be brought back within months

Virginia board rename schools after Confederate generals after dropping titles George Floyd murder | Daily Mail Online

Well to be fair MLK was very flawed and his name is plastered every where.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You disagree with American Exceptionalism? Shocking

I think the truth lies somewhere between American exceptionalism and CRT.

 

[Jxn Vol]

I think the truth lies somewhere between American exceptionalism and CRT.

I agree. Like a baby step away from American Exceptionalism and a 99.5 steps away from CRT.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I agree. Like a baby step away from American Exceptionalism and a 99.5 steps away from CRT.

Nope. For every John Brown, how many Nathan Bedford Forrests would you have?

 

[Jxn Vol]

Nope. For every John Brown, how many Nathan Bedford Forrests would you have?

Yep. Comparing both of those guys to the aforementioned doctrines is quite ignorant

 

[landscapingvol]

Nope. For every John Brown, how many Nathan Bedford Forrests would you have?

Nathan Bedford Forrest is not the guy he is painted out to be by modern viewpoints conversely neither is John Brown. The Klan has nothing to do with American Exceptionalism. Being “exceptional” doesn’t mean there aren’t events in history that are negative, you have a very twisted view of American history and it has become quite evident in your views on the invasion of Ukraine.

 

[hUTch2002]

Two Virginia schools which had been named after Confederate generals and soldiers and which changed their names in the wake of the 2020 murder of George Floyd, are to revert back to their earlier names.

The Shenandoah County School Board changed Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View High School and Ashby-Lee Elementary School to Honey Run Elementary School in Quicksburg, following a board vote in July 2020 and final approval in January 2021.

But less than two years later, a petition was launched to gauge the strength of feeling on reverting the schools back to their original names.

In 2020, a vote was held to switch the name of Stonewall Jackson High School to Mountain View, but it is likely the old name could be brought back within months

Virginia board rename schools after Confederate generals after dropping titles George Floyd murder | Daily Mail Online

Burn them down!!!!!!!!

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Well to be fair MLK was very flawed and his name is plastered every where.

"Flawed" is being kind.

 

[lawgator1]

Terrific. More "look at me being spiteful" politics.

 

[85SugarVol]

All that progress, lost. Like tears in rain.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Terrific. More "look at me being spiteful" politics.

No…removing every confederate name and reference from our history, even those who didn’t condone slavery, was spiteful
Now it’s Time restore some statues

 

[Vol Main]

Nope. For every John Brown, how many Nathan Bedford Forrests would you have?

It is fashionable these days to vilify Forrest as an incorrigible racist. The fact is that he was both a slave owner and a slave trader. But he was not among those who advocated sending Americans of African ancestry back to Africa. After the war, he actually advocated for African immigration, saying that they are a good and industrious people. Unlike many Southerners who opposed voting rights for former slaves, Forrest was one of very few who supported their right to vote after voting rights were restored to former Confederates. At that time, he was much ostracized by White Memphians because he personally participated in a Black political rally in Memphis to present himself to Black voters as a candidate for public office. In his later years, Forrest lived more among Black people than among Whites. I personally do not think it's a good idea to name schools after former Confederates. But I also think it is wrong to demonize all of them.

 

[EasternVol]

It is fashionable these days to vilify Forrest as an incorrigible racist. The fact is that he was both a slave owner and a slave trader. But he was not among those who advocated sending Americans of African ancestry back to Africa. After the war, he actually advocated for African immigration, saying that they are a good and industrious people. Unlike many Southerners who opposed voting rights for former slaves, Forrest was one of very few who supported their right to vote after voting rights were restored to former Confederates. At that time, he was much ostracized by White Memphians because he personally participated in a Black political rally in Memphis to present himself to Black voters as a candidate for public office. In his later years, Forrest lived more among Black people than among Whites. I personally do not think it's a good idea to name schools after former Confederates. But I also think it is wrong to demonize all of them.

I agree except for the part about naming schools for Confederates. Most were defending their homeland from unwarranted invasion. If that doesn't merit commemoration then not much does.

 

[OrangeTsar]

I agree except for the part about naming schools for Confederates. Most were defending their homeland from unwarranted invasion. If that doesn't merit commemoration then not much does.

It is perfectly acceptable to honour good men who fight for a dishonorable cause. Look at Erwin Rommel for instance. People will fight or their homes and neighbors even if the leadership is wrong.

 

[Vol Main]

I agree except for the part about naming schools for Confederates. Most were defending their homeland from unwarranted invasion. If that doesn't merit commemoration then not much does.

They were defending their homeland from military invasion, but they were also defending African slavery, and descendants of slaves might not want to commemorate Confederate veterans in the same way as their descendants. We should have mixed feelings about the war and those who fought it. Public schools are places for all children. Veterans of the Civil War should be taught in History classes and commemorated somewhere else. jmho

 

[EasternVol]

They were defending their homeland from military invasion, but they were also defending African slavery, and descendants of slaves might not want to commemorate Confederate veterans in the same way as their descendants. We should have mixed feelings about the war and those who fought it. Public schools are places for all children. Veterans of the Civil War should be taught in History classes and commemorated somewhere else. jmho

It's not accurate to say that all were defending slavery. Some surely thought they were but most fought just to defend their country against invasion.

 

[Vol Main]

It's not accurate to say that all were defending slavery. Some surely thought they were but most fought just to defend their country against invasion.

Yes, it is accurate to say. Regardless of their motivations and opinions about slavery, if they were fighting in the Confederate Army they were defending slavery. Were they defending their homes? Yes. Were they defending slavery? Yes.

 

[OrangeTsar]

Honoring Confederate heroism and bravery was an important part of healing the nation after the civil war. Shaming the south would have felt good for the victors but would have left festering wounds that wouldn’t have healed. Letting the South have a few things in which could take pride made them much better citizens in the newly reunited country

 

[OrangeTsar]

Lincoln knew that it was important to welcome the South back. The left today wants to undo that and heap all the accumulated malice back upon the South

 

[EasternVol]

Yes, it is accurate to say. Regardless of their opinions about slavery, if they were fighting in the Confederate Army they were defending slavery. Were they defending their homes? Yes. Were they defending slavery? Yes.

That's like saying US troops were fighting for slavery in the War of 1812 since slavery was legal in the US but not the UK.

 

[Gandalf]

I think the truth lies somewhere between American exceptionalism and CRT.

America is exceptional. It is not perfect.