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volswin08

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Professor Rob Hardin-Associate Professor UT Sports Management Program writes in today's Daily Times that Tennessee has signed 15 five star (Rivals) players since 2002.
The list includes: 1.James Banks, 2.Mondre Dickerson, 3.Brandon Jefferies, 4. J.T. Mapu, 5.Gerald Riggs, 6.Robert Meachem(All-American), 7. Jessie Mahelona(All-American), 8.Albert Toeaina, 9.Demetrice Morley, 10.Walter Fisher, 11.Eric Berry, 12.Chris Donald, 13.Ben Martin, 14.Kenny O'Neal, 15. Brent Vinson. The list represents varing degrees of success and or potential success....I think that most persons feel that the five star rating guarantees success.:dunno:
 
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volswin08 said:
Professor Rob Hardin-Associate Professor UT Sports Management Program writes in today's Daily Times that Tennessee has signed 15 five star (Rivals) players since 2002.
The list includes: 1.James Banks, 2.Mondre Dickerson, 3.Brandon Jefferies, 4. J.T. Mapu, 5.Gerald Riggs, 6.Robert Meachem(All-American), 7. Jessie Mahelona(All-American), 8.Albert Toeaina, 9.Demetrice Morley, 10.Walter Fisher, 11.Eric Berry, 12.Chris Donald, 13.Ben Martin, 14.Kenny O'Neal, 15. Brent Vinson. The list represents varing degrees of success and or potential success....I think that most persons feel that the five star rating guarantees success.:dunno:
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I'm not one of those persons...a 5* rating doesn't gaurantee anything! Just look at some of those names above.
 
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Interesting that 6 of those guys are still on the roster but some fans think that UT has a serious talent deficit to the rest of the SEC.
 
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Smokey... I'll admit that I'm hoping it will mean something when it comes to Berry, Morley, Vinson, Martin, and Donald.
 
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volswin08 said:
1.James Banks, 2.Mondre Dickerson, 3.Brandon Jefferies, 4. J.T. Mapu, 5.Gerald Riggs, 6.Robert Meachem(All-American), 7. Jessie Mahelona(All-American), 8.Albert Toeaina,
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Of the 8 that have moved on, 7 had significant contributing roles on the college level (I don't even remember Jefferies.) All of those that remain are expected to contribute in the near future.

Although it may not be a guarantee or NFL stardom, you can pretty well expect a 5* to be on the field, contributing in a major way sometime during his career. That list includes a guy who lead the team in receptions and receiving yards, a leading rusher, a very solid O-lineman, a short-stint NFL D-lineman, 2 all-americas, and a mormon (?). The real shame is that we didn't keep all of them around for their full careers, either due to early entry into the NFL or off-field issues.
 
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sjt18 said:
Smokey... I'll admit that I'm hoping it will mean something when it comes to Berry, Morley, Vinson, Martin, and Donald.
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Oh yeah...absolutely. I'm just saying that just because they are 5* coming out of highschool, that doesn't GAURANTEE they'll be superstar college players. Having said that, I'll take my chances recruiting 5* players anyday of the week and twice on Sunday.

...and Crompton was a 4* with Rivals.
 
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cotton said:
Of the 8 that have moved on, 7 had significant contributing roles on the college level (I don't even remember Jefferies.) All of those that remain are expected to contribute in the near future.

Although it may not be a guarantee or NFL stardom, you can pretty well expect a 5* to be on the field, contributing in a major way sometime during his career. That list includes a guy who lead the team in receptions and receiving yards, a leading rusher, a very solid O-lineman, a short-stint NFL D-lineman, 2 all-americas, and a mormon (?). The real shame is that we didn't keep all of them around for their full careers, either due to early entry into the NFL or off-field issues.
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Brandon Jefferies (2002) -- Jefferies only played in one game in two seasons at Tennessee and was set to transfer to North Carolina State. He eventually landed at Newberry College. He was tabbed the No. 2 offensive lineman prospect in the country coming out of high school but never materialized into a top-flight collegiate player.
 
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volswin08 said:
Brandon Jefferies (2002) -- Jefferies only played in one game in two seasons at Tennessee and was set to transfer to North Carolina State. He eventually landed at Newberry College. He was tabbed the No. 2 offensive lineman prospect in the country coming out of high school but never materialized into a top-flight collegiate player.
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:good!:

Kind of easy to see why I forgot him.
 
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It is because we pay close attention to the five stars that flopped. All the other five stars succeeding we don't talk about.
 
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Of course 5* doesn't mean guaranteed success..but for us general fans who can't see a player or send a guy to get a first-hand accoutn, IT IS what we will base our most informed opinions off of. I tdoesn't mean that it is bad when we take a 3*....but we as fans should always be happy when we land a 5* recruit. My opinion is look to see who else is recruiting a guy....if they are your rivals..then you probably want him.
 
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TennTradition said:
Of course 5* doesn't mean guaranteed success..but for us general fans who can't see a player or send a guy to get a first-hand accoutn, IT IS what we will base our most informed opinions off of. I tdoesn't mean that it is bad when we take a 3*....but we as fans should always be happy when we land a 5* recruit. My opinion is look to see who else is recruiting a guy....if they are your rivals..then you probably want him.
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TT; I agree with your position 100%. However, my point of starting the thread is, I am surprised that of the 15 five star players which the Vols have signed over the past six seasons, I would rate only about 50% of them as having been a positive(successful) contributor to the team for more than a single season. If I assign a one to five score to each player on the list (1-being a total waste of a scholarship, and 5-being All-American or potental AA); I come up with (3 players) with a score of five, (2 players) with a four, (3 players) with a score of 3, (5 players) with a 2 , and (2 players) with a score of 1. That was thought provoking for me.:question:
 
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It is interesting. But, how would those percentages run for other stars? It is sad that kids that probably do have a ton of talent don't always make it on the next level...often because of off-the-field issues. The fact is that recruiting classes are quite large...but the number of kids from each that really make a difference of the field is not nearly as large.
 
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1 Vincent Young QB 5 Texas Drafted by Titans first round 2006 draft
2 Haloti Ngata DT 5 Oregon Drafted by Ravens first round 2006 draft
3 Lorenzo Booker RB 5 FSU Drafted by Dolphins third round 2007 draft
4 Ben Olson QB 5 BYU Signed UCLA 2005 R/Sr 2008.
5 Reggie McNeal ATH 5 Texas A&M Drafted by Bengals sixth round 2006 draft
6 Chris Davis ATH 5 FSU Drafted by Titans third round 2007 draft
7 Ryan Moore WR 5 Miami Not drafted
8 Marcus Vick QB 5 Va Tech Not drafted-Dismissed from team
9 Leon Washington DB 5 FSU Drafted by Jets fourth round 2006 draft
10 Ciatrick Fason RB 5 Florida Drafted by Vikings fourth round 2004 draft
11 Kai Parham DE 5 Virginia Not drafted
12 Gerald Riggs Jr RB 5 Tennessee Not drafted
13 Rodrique Wright DT 5 Texas Drafted by Dolphins seventh round 2006 draft
14 Michael Johnson RB 5 Virginia Not drafted
15 Justin Blalock OL 5 Texas Drafted by Falcons second round 2007 draft
16 DiShon Platt WR 5 FSU Not Drafted Did not qualify-never played anywhere
17 Ricardo Hurley LB 5 S Carolina Not drafted
18 Nathan Rhodes OL 5 Washington Not drafted-Gave up football-Injuries
19 Brandon Jeffries OL 5 Tennessee Not drafted-Transfer to Newberry
20 Trent Edwards QB 5 Stanford Drafted by Bills third round 2007 draft
21 Deljuan Robinson DE 5 Miss St Not drafted
22 Jerious Norwood RB 5 Miss St Drafted by Falcons third round 2006 draft
23 Marquis Johnson WR 5 Texas Not drafted-DNQ-Juco-Signed Texas Tech
24 Derek Morris OL 5 Ohio St Not drafted-Transfer to NC State
25 Darren Williams DB 5 Miss St Not drafted-Dismissed from team
26 Pat Watkins DB 5 FSU Drafted by Cowboys fifth round 2006 draft
27 Ahmad Brooks LB 5 Virginia Drafted by Bengals in 2006 supplemental draft
28 Devin Hester DB 5 Miami Drafted by Bears second round of 2006 draft
29 Mike D'Andrea LB 5 Ohio St Not drafted
30 James Banks QB 5 Tennessee Not drafted-Dismissed from team
31 Zach Latimer LB 5 Oklahoma Not drafted
32 Ben Obomanu WR 5 Auburn Drafted by Seahawks seventh round 2006 draft
33 Gabriel Watson DT 5 Michigan Drafted by Cardinals fourth round 2006 draft
34 Jonathan Mapu DE 5 Tennessee Not Drafted
35 Edorian McCullough DB 5 Texas Not drafted-Dismissed from Team/School
36 Marcedes Lewis TE 5 UCLA Drafted by Jaguars first round 2006 draft
37 Maurice Clarett RB 5 Ohio St Drafted by Broncos third round 2006 draft
38 Bryan Pickryl DE 5 Texas Not drafted-Gave up Football - injuries
 
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1 Ernie Sims LB 5 FSU Drafted by Lions first round 2006 draft
2 Reggie Bush RB 5 USC Drafted by Saints first round 2006 draft
3 Whitney Lewis ATH 5 USC Not Drafted-Transfer to Northern Iowa
4 Andre Caldwell WR 5 Florida Drafted by Bengals third round of 2008 draft
5 Kyle Wright QB 5 Miami Not Drafted
6 Prescott Burgess DB 5 Michigan Drafted by Ravens sixth round 2007 draft
7 Tony Hills Jr TE 5 Texas Drafted by Steelers 4th round 2008 draft
8 Jorrie Adams OL 5 Texas A&M Not Drafted-Dismissed from Team
9 Paul Oliver DB 5 Georgia Drafted 4th round supplemental draft 2007 by Chargers-Dismissed from Team
10 Greg Olsen TE 5 Notre Dame Drafted by Bears first round 2007 draft
11 Martin O'Donnell OL 5 Illinois Not Drafted
12 Dee Webb DB 5 Florida Drafted by Jaguars seventh round 2006 draft
13 Wesley Jefferson LB 5 Maryland Not Drafted- Quit football
14 LaMarr Woodley LB 5 Michigan Drafted by Steelers second round 2007 draft
15 Nathaniel Robinson DT 5 Rutgers Not Drafted-Transfer to Akron-Redshirt Senior 2007
16 Joe Cohen DE 5 Florida Drafted by 49ers fourth round 2007 draft
17 Chad Jackson WR 5 Florida Drafted by Patriots second round 2006 draft
18 Ofa Mohetau OL 5 BYU Not Drafted-Transfer to Juco-Signed with Texas Tech 2006
19 Kregg Lumpkin RB 5 Georgia Not Drafted
20 Robert Meachem WR 5 Tennessee Drafted by Saints first round 2007 draft
21 Demetris Summers RB 5 S Carolina Not drafted
22 Justin Ostrowski DE 5 Wisconsin Not Drafted-Gave up football-medical
23 Victor Abiamiri DE 5 Notre Dame Drafted by Eagles second round 2007 draft
24 Quinton Culbertson DB 5 Miss St Not drafted
25 Jarvis Moss DE 5 Florida Drafted by Broncos first round 2007 draft
 
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1 Adrian Peterson RB 5 Oklahoma Drafted by Vikings first round 2007 draft
2 Theodore Ginn Jr DB 5 Ohio St Drafted by Dolphins first round of 2007 draft
3 Early Doucet WR 5 LSU Drafted by Cardinals third round 2008 draft
4 Rhett Bomar QB 5 Oklahoma Dismissed. Transfer to Sam Houston St-Redshirt Senior 2008
5 Keith Rivers LB 5 USC Drafted by Bengals 1st round of 2008 draft
6 Willie Williams LB 5 Miami Not Drafted-Dismissed: Went JC: Signed Louisville 2007. dismissed from team
7 Brandon Miller DE 5 Georgia Not Drafted
8 Derrick Harvey DE 5 Florida Drafted by Jaguars first round 2008 draft
9 Jeff Schweiger DE 5 USC Transfer to San Jose St-Redshirt Senior 2008
10 Xavier Lee QB 5 FSU Not Drafted
11 DeMario Pressley DT 5 NC State Drafted by Saints fifth round 2008 draft
12 Anthony Morelli QB 5 Penn St Not Drafted
13 Chad Henne QB 5 Michigan Drafted by Dolphins second round 2008 draft
14 Kyle Williams LB 5 Iowa Not Drafted-DNQ-Prep School Signed Purdue 2005-2007 now in prison
15 Chris Patterson LB 5 Oklahoma DNQ-Juco. Signed Kansas St-Redshirt Senior 2008
16 Matthew Tuiasosopo QB 5 Washington Not Drafted-Pro Baseball
17 Cameron Colvin WR 5 Oregon Not Drafted
18 Franklin Okam DT 5 Texas Drafted by Texans fifth round 2008 draft
19 Fred Davis WR 5 USC Drafted by Redskins second round 2008 draft
20 Jeff Byers OL 5 USC Redshirt Senior 2008
21 Lance Leggett WR 5 Miami Not Drafted
22 Xavier Carter WR 5 LSU Not Drafted-Gave up football for track
23 Thomas Herring OL 5 USC Gray Shirt 2004-Redshirt Junior 2008
24 Dan Conner LB 5 Penn St Drafted by Panthers third round 2008 draft
25 Brian Toal LB 5 B College Redshirt Senior 2008
 
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1 Derrick Williams ATH 5 Penn St Senior in 2008
2 Patrick Turner WR 5 USC Senior in 2008
3 Eugene Monroe WR 5 Virginia Senior in 2008
4 Melvin Alaeze DE 5 Maryland Never qualified-Now facing legal problems
5 Ray Maualuga LB 5 USC Senior in 2008
6 Fred Rouse WR 5 FSU Dismissed-Transfer to UTEP- Quit UTEP Spring 2008
7 Mark Sanchez QB 5 USC Redshirt Junior 2008
8 Martellus Bennett TE 5 Texas A&M Drafted by Cowboys second round 2008 draft
9 Reginald Youngblood OL 5 Miami Senior in 2008
10 Jonathan Stewart RB 5 Oregon Drafted by Panthers first round 2008 draft
11 DeMarcus Granger DT 5 Oklahoma Redshirt Junior 2008
12 Kenneth Phillips DB 5 Miami Drafted by Giants first round 2008 draft
13 Marlon Lucky RB 5 Nebraska Senior in 2008
14 Callahan Bright DT 5 FSU Never qualified-Signed Shaw College
15 Jason Gwaltney RB 5 W Virginia Redshirt Junior 2008 IF HE SHOWS UP
16 Ryan Perrilloux QB 5 LSU Dismissed spring 2008
17 Tray Blackmon LB 5 Auburn Redshirt Junior 2008
18 DeSean Jackson WR 5 Califronia Drafted by Eagles second round 2008 draft
19 Justin King DB 5 Penn St Drafted by Rams fourth round 2008 draft
20 Alex Boone OL 5 Ohio St Senior in 2008
21 Demetrice Morley DB 5 Tennessee Redshirt Junior 2008
22 Kevin Grady RB 5 Michigan Senior in 2008
23 Darren McFadden ATH 5 Arkansas Drafted by Raiders first round 2008 draft
24 Jerrell Powe DT 5 Ole Miss Finally admitted 2008
25 Antone Smith RB 5 FSU Redshirt Junior 2008
26 Ryan Reynolds LB 5 Oklahoma Redshirt Junior 2008
27 Dan Doering OL 5 Iowa Redshirt Junior 2008
28 Victor Harris ATH 5 Va Tech Senior in 2008
 
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Greg Olsen played for Miami, not Notre Dame. Did he commit to the Irish at one point or something?
 
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The stars are just giving a probability for future success. We do this all the time with hs kids-take the kid with a crazy high sat score-he may very well outperform the average sat score kid, or he might not. There are always exceptions-but generally the trends hold true.
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kptvol said:
Greg Olsen played for Miami, not Notre Dame. Did he commit to the Irish at one point or something?
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He signed with N Dame (his brother had signed the eyar before with N Dame). His brother transferred to Virginia area school after hsi first year. N Dame released Greg and he signed with Miami
 
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crazyguy said:
The stars are just giving a probability for future success. We do this all the time with hs kids-take the kid with a crazy high sat score-he may very well outperform the average sat score kid, or he might not. There are always exceptions-but generally the trends hold true.
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agree, 100%. The more higher ranked kids you get, the better chance to win championships
 
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