Vols land 4-star SF Jahmai Mashack

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The Dog said:
Well, u all suck and I had to look it up myself, but yeah, Durant was #35, his one season with the SuperSonics
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I was curious who’s Jersey he was wearing. I completely forgot that Durant was a sonic for one season. TBH, that’s a pretty sweet throwback!!
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LeannaVol said:
I think it was fair for people to question the Rick Barnes hire at the time given that Texas was firing him due to not meeting their expectations.
I also think its fair for folks to point out he has been a big success at Tennessee and raised our program to a level we have not reached both in recruiting and the number one ranking we achieved for much of the season prior to last.
I also think it is fair for folks to point out his lack of success overall in the NCAA tourney. Given the players he has had and regular season success, I think it is fair to say he has underachieved overall in the tourney. For some fans the tourney is how they measure their seasons success.
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While somewhat true, like most things, people were quick to judge without any reasoning for it. Then it just became an effort to pile on when he wasn't recruiting the players many just assumed he'd get, despite his own admittance that the model didn't work at Texas, and that he needed to build a program at Tennessee, not a roster. Those same people also generally ignored the pitiful national perception of our program. Barnes was our 4th HC in 6 years. There was still a misled belief that we ran off Cuonzo Martin, and then we had a fanbase that was still pining for Bruce Pearl.
Barnes had a lot working against him in the beginning.

I was skeptical of the hire, myself, but not because I didn't believe he couldn't make us a winning program that made the NCAAT >50% of the time. My concerns were centered on the idea that he was just a safe hire, even though I consciously realized we needed a safe hire with name recognition to steady the program. I never imagined he'd embrace Tennessee like he has and experience the kind of national success that he has on the floor and off. I just felt like he'd come in, steady the program, and hand the reins off to someone younger before retiring. He really accelerated that in about the time span I thought he would be looking to hang up the whistle, and he honestly looks as ready to go as ever. And he has done a lot more than just steady the program.
 
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Stoked said:
Oh gotcha was just confused since Chandler isn't a wing like Mashack.
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At the very least Vescovi slides back as the primary PG which opens a hole in the backcourt. Mashack would presumably help to fill that. I’m assuming he can play 2/3
 
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golfballs said:
At the very least Vescovi slides back as the primary PG which opens a hole in the backcourt. Mashack would presumably help to fill that. I’m assuming he can play 2/3
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Defensively he can guard 1-4. Saw footage of him locking down Evan Mobley.
 
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cncchris33 said:
While somewhat true, like most things, people were quick to judge without any reasoning for it. Then it just became an effort to pile on when he wasn't recruiting the players many just assumed he'd get, despite his own admittance that the model didn't work at Texas, and that he needed to build a program at Tennessee, not a roster. Those same people also generally ignored the pitiful national perception of our program. Barnes was our 4th HC in 6 years. There was still a mislead belief that we ran off Cuonzo Martin, and then we had a fanbase that was still pining for Bruce Pearl.
Barnes had a lot working against him in the beginning.

I was skeptical of the hire, myself, but not because I didn't believe he couldn't make us a winning program that made the NCAAT >50% of the time. My concerns were centered on the idea that he was just a safe hire, even though I consciously realized we needed a safe hire with name recognition to steady the program. I never imagined he'd embrace Tennessee like he has and experience the kind of national success that he has on the floor and off. I just felt like he'd come in, steady the program, and hand the reins off to someone younger before retiring. He really accelerated that in about the time span I thought he would be looking to hang up the whistle, and he honestly looks as ready to go as ever. And he has done a lot more than just steady the program.
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Chris I couldn't have said it better. Every word is spot on where my thinking was as well. I wasn't outwardly critical of the hire but was listening to some criticism that just wasn't true. I personally think he'll rank really high on all time coach hire at Tennessee...probably already does.
 
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cncchris33 said:
While somewhat true, like most things, people were quick to judge without any reasoning for it. Then it just became an effort to pile on when he wasn't recruiting the players many just assumed he'd get, despite his own admittance that the model didn't work at Texas, and that he needed to build a program at Tennessee, not a roster. Those same people also generally ignored the pitiful national perception of our program. Barnes was our 4th HC in 6 years. There was still a misled belief that we ran off Cuonzo Martin, and then we had a fanbase that was still pining for Bruce Pearl.
Barnes had a lot working against him in the beginning.

I was skeptical of the hire, myself, but not because I didn't believe he couldn't make us a winning program that made the NCAAT >50% of the time. My concerns were centered on the idea that he was just a safe hire, even though I consciously realized we needed a safe hire with name recognition to steady the program. I never imagined he'd embrace Tennessee like he has and experience the kind of national success that he has on the floor and off. I just felt like he'd come in, steady the program, and hand the reins off to someone younger before retiring. He really accelerated that in about the time span I thought he would be looking to hang up the whistle, and he honestly looks as ready to go as ever. And he has done a lot more than just steady the program.
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LeannaVol said:
I think it was fair for people to question the Rick Barnes hire at the time given that Texas was firing him due to not meeting their expectations.
I also think its fair for folks to point out he has been a big success at Tennessee and raised our program to a level we have not reached both in recruiting and the number one ranking we achieved for much of the season prior to last.
I also think it is fair for folks to point out his lack of success overall in the NCAA tourney. Given the players he has had and regular season success, I think it is fair to say he has underachieved overall in the tourney. For some fans the tourney is how they measure their seasons success.
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In all honesty, I never questioned the hire. The moment Texas fired Barnes, I was praying Tennessee would reach out to him and do whatever it took to get him to Knoxville. I didn’t have expectations of him getting the Vols to #1 in the country or to the level of recruiting we’re seeing now, but I thought he was the stability this program desperately needed. I thought he would Get our program on solid footing, prove that Tennessee basketball could be competitive in the SEC and set the stage for the next guy. Really, Barnes fell right into our lap and for once, timing and circumstance were on our side and the future certainly looks bright for Big Orange hoops!
GBO!!
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
In all honesty, I never questioned the hire. The moment Texas fired Barnes, I was praying Tennessee would reach out to him and do whatever it took to get him to Knoxville. I didn’t have expectations of him getting the Vols to #1 in the country or to the level of recruiting we’re seeing now, but I thought he was the stability this program desperately needed. I thought he would Get our program on solid footing, prove that Tennessee basketball could be competitive in the SEC and set the stage for the next guy. Really, Barnes fell right into our lap and for once, timing and circumstance were on our side and the future certainly looks bright for Big Orange hoops!
GBO!!
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Yeah, I don't think I ever outwardly expressed displeasure at the hire. It was just hard to get too excited until he proved some things on the floor.

In retrospect, it was a very good hire based on the situation we were in.
 
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i2amavol said:
Yeah, I don't think I ever outwardly expressed displeasure at the hire. It was just hard to get too excited until he proved some things on the floor.

In retrospect, it was a very good hire based on the situation we were in.
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Yessir. We were upside down after the Tyndale exit and the look with Martin resigning under fan pressure and petition after a S16 run. And the roster was decimated and in a rebuild state. Yep, looking back we got about as good a turnaround as we possiby could. Barnes' "reputation" at that pt was no guarantee either. But, the guy knows how to coach. Put his head down and went to work. Phenomenal where we are sitting ATM.
 
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orangemadam said:
Before putting him on a pedastal (sp?), maybe we should see if he can get a team into the E8. He couldn't do it with 3 NBA players, let's see if he can do it now with 5*'s.
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“3 NBA players” = 2 G Leaguers and one marginal role player
Coach K didn’t get to the final four with Zion, Barrett, and Reddish so fahrhisazz too, I guess.
If you can’t spell a word, don’t try to use it.
 
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The game has changed with Tennessee now. The perimeter defense has had some leaks since Barnes arrived. He has recruited elite
athletic defenders and now their will be no pg or any guard who wants to be defended by these guys. Looking forward to the
season.
 
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SGMVols said:
“3 NBA players” = 2 G Leaguers and one marginal role player
Coach K didn’t get to the final four with Zion, Barrett, and Reddish so fahrhisazz too, I guess.
If you can’t spell a word, don’t try to use it.
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Thanks for the advice, trailerboy. You got your excuses already lined up for not making the E8, I see.
 
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LeannaVol said:
I think it was fair for people to question the Rick Barnes hire at the time given that Texas was firing him due to not meeting their expectations.
I also think its fair for folks to point out he has been a big success at Tennessee and raised our program to a level we have not reached both in recruiting and the number one ranking we achieved for much of the season prior to last.
I also think it is fair for folks to point out his lack of success overall in the NCAA tourney. Given the players he has had and regular season success, I think it is fair to say he has underachieved overall in the tourney. For some fans the tourney is how they measure their seasons success.
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Agree with all of your points. From my perspective, the real rub is is that too many on VN definitively declared CRB was here to collect a pay check and not putting the effort into recruiting which was very unfair since it ignored MANY pertinent facts and circumstances.
 
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Smokebern20 said:
That's bc he's an incoming college student. Interview your 'average' person on the street and they sound like marble mouth garbage. Tired of hearing this cliche.
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I disagree. Not all incoming college kids have the pride or self-discipline to express themselves so clearly and confidently. Tired of hearing your brand of defensiveness when someone is obviously trying to call out and applaud a young man for walking in a way that is non-standard in today’s culture. He is uncommon, objectively.
 
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Smokebern20 said:
That's bc he's an incoming college student. Interview your 'average' person on the street and they sound like marble mouth garbage. Tired of hearing this cliche.
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Lamar Jackson was once an incoming college student, too, and he couldn’t string together two or three intelligible words. Surely don’t believe that every possible incoming college freshman is “intelligent sounding”. In fact, I’d say a majority of them do not. Certainly not as well put together as Mashack came across in that video. That level of communication skill and comfort behind the camera at his age is rare.
 
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